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Off of

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BBbevan Mon 22-Feb-16 13:32:18

Surely it is just off, as in I fell off my horse. Lots of people, including young teachers say off of.

Riverwalk Tue 23-Feb-16 14:30:49

'Hear'? grin

'shtudents' surely is a matter of pronunciation not grammar - how else would you say it - 'stewdents'? (the latter evokes Hyacinth Bucket).

Madmartha Tue 23-Feb-16 14:40:55

My first day at grammar school, and I had to give a letter to the Headmistress from the Headmaster of my old primary school. I stood in her study, held out the letter and said proudly ' this is off Mr Jones'. 'Off Mr Jones?' 'You can pick apples off a tree, but not letters off Mr Jones - the word is 'from'. Never made that mistake again

Madmartha Tue 23-Feb-16 14:45:46

Yes Riverwalk it is a matter of pronunciation, and a sloppy one at that

wot Tue 23-Feb-16 15:08:52

Riverine talk, did you know the word "gullible" is not in any dictionary? (Well, I thought that was funny!)

wot Tue 23-Feb-16 15:10:18

Riverwalk, I meant. This damn ipad

Bellanonna Tue 23-Feb-16 15:31:21

Yes, got is a word.

That PPI ad, apart from its presenter, is stridently irritating with its " you and I"

I'm not sure you CAN say you fell off of the bed. Off from, maybe?

I loathe "I'm good" too. It's American, as we know, and I think it has come down through German-speaking immigrants, finding its way into the language that way. In German they would say "Ich bin gut" or "es geht mir gut" . They use the adjective rather than the adverb. But we don't, so we shouldn't say it! My daughter often uses it, asks if she can "get" a coffee and I cringe.

Bellanonna Tue 23-Feb-16 15:36:17

Blimey im not Mrs Bucket, but I would say stewdent. You don't say shtupid or shtudio ?

wot Tue 23-Feb-16 15:42:05

Only if one's had one too many! Have you noticed how a lot of people pronounce their s. From the lips rather than the tongue. My ex used to do that. Maybe it's to do with prominent teeth.

JudeC Tue 23-Feb-16 16:43:42

Another one to add to the mix: using "then" instead of "than"!

Charleygirl Tue 23-Feb-16 16:53:45

I have a friend who finishes nearly every sentence with "and that" That makes me cringe.

cloverpark Tue 23-Feb-16 16:54:45

It annoys me to hear Jeremy Paxman tell the students on University Challenge that "The next set of bonuses are on..." As "set" is singular, surely he should say "The next set...is""

Charleygirl Tue 23-Feb-16 17:00:44

I agree, cloverpark

Conni7 Tue 23-Feb-16 17:21:39

I agree with so much of this, and I'm so glad I'm not the only pedant. I know that language evolves, but surely grammar should not as it alters meanings. I believe "different to" is taught in schools now, but it isn't logical. If you use the word "different" you are moving away "from" something, whereas "similar" is going towards. I too have seen "bored of" several times in "best seller" books, so what can we do if the editing is so bad?

Blinko Tue 23-Feb-16 17:22:18

Oh how I agree with all the foregoing! My particular bete noir is the use of the apostrophe in plurals. It really gets my goat! Oh, and how about the way some people say 'pacific' when they mean 'specific'. For goodness' sake!

HannahLoisLuke Tue 23-Feb-16 17:25:08

To UkeCan with regard to your comment about wanting to correct people on Facebook. I read a post a couple of months ago which said something like this
" We have a new teacher at our school who is gay. Several parents are uneasy about a gay teacher at there children's school"
One of the comments read " I'd be happy with any teacher who could teach my children the difference between there, their and they're.

phoenix Tue 23-Feb-16 17:45:18

This "reaching out" rather then "getting in touch" or "contacting" is something I first encountered in an email from someone in Australia when I worked for Mystery Shoppers.

It appears to have a friend in "revert", as in " I'll revert to you when I have more info" confused

Deedaa Tue 23-Feb-16 20:12:11

Oh Conni7 I so agree about "different from" and yet you see apparently literate and well educated people using "Different to" all the time

I must have been about 7 when our teacher taught us to say from or off instead of off of. She made it so clear it has stuck in my head ever since. I fear that may be because she suggested that saying off of would mark you out as common.

I am so bored of people who should of known better asking to get a cup of coffee, but if I think about them too much I shall disappear up my own split infinitif grin

Maggieanne Tue 23-Feb-16 21:33:32

Is it just me, when someone says littel, it sounds so wrong. Talking about teachers though, one thing I've always remembered is, "read through your work before you hand it in", always (nearly) works for me, especially when typing.
I read a post on a comment page today. "These people shouldn't be a loud to have animals". Wrong spelling, dyslexic or auto-correct?

Maggieanne Tue 23-Feb-16 21:34:19

Anythink else, aaargh

wot Tue 23-Feb-16 22:09:49

What about hospikal instead of hospital or horse piddle.

Ana Tue 23-Feb-16 22:11:50

Littel is at least better than 'lickle' - as in 'that lickle lad'...

Penygirl Tue 23-Feb-16 22:31:57

It's people asking to lend something which always bugs me. I want to ask who they intend to lend it to?
(Should that be 'to whom'?)

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 23-Feb-16 22:35:45

I can be pedantic, but I'm not on the same level as most posters on this thread. Life is too short. I have said off of all my life and will carry on saying it. I don't remember being told off at school or at home for saying it either.

fredabee Tue 23-Feb-16 22:41:38

All these things make me cringe - what about nothink ??? Horrible.

baNANAGran3 Tue 23-Feb-16 22:48:35

Back in the day - Which day and how far back?

Basically - so many sentences now start with "basically"

Clearly - same as above