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BBbevan Mon 22-Feb-16 13:32:18

Surely it is just off, as in I fell off my horse. Lots of people, including young teachers say off of.

BBbevan Sun 28-Feb-16 09:03:31

Ah, but that is dialect not laziness! Annodomini

LullyDully Sun 28-Feb-16 12:22:28

Sad to loose dialect imo

LullyDully Sun 28-Feb-16 12:25:28

When I taught in the East end of London I worked with a Swedish teacher who was fluent in English. She used to say
" But the children don't speak English. What are they saying??". Always made me chuckle.

annodomini Sun 28-Feb-16 13:27:44

Or even lose dialect.

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 13:44:50

wilma, with the mum the same age as me, so you could technically be my daughter !! You young thing. Not that I'm old or anything. Genuinely. It's all in the mind.
I grew up with railway station and train station really irks. Spose that's a bit of an age giveaway, but I hate to hear it, whilst at the same time admitting it's more correct. Trains, not the railway, are "stationed" at a station. But I will go on using the original wording just as I can't say driver's licence which seems to have replaced driving licence. I think a lot of the gripes on that list, Wilma, are about transatlantic imports but sometimes they do have their origins in old English, and it is we who have changed things. I think I said somewhere else that I say " for free" as I quite like it, and occasionally use other phrases or words from the London area just because they appeal! I'm a bit selective about when I use them though !

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 13:48:58

Yes I've often said how sad it would be to lose our wonderful dialects. Not just the lovely and varied regional accents but the actual words with their Scandinavian, Saxon and other origins. Lets hope they never die out.

BBbevan Sun 28-Feb-16 18:15:18

I spent my childhood in Wales and still use some of the dialect words Cwtch( cuddle) , daps( plimsolls) ganzy ( cardigan) to name but a few.. My daughter has just moved back there so had a head start when talking to people.Dialect is lovely, sloppy speech and grammar is not.

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 18:23:03

anno, yes, I despair...

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 28-Feb-16 19:08:57

Bellanonna grin I say 'driving licence' and I promise I will never say 'driver's licence'. wink

I say 'train station' and have often heard 'railway station', but lots of people just say 'station' now though and I say that more often than 'train station'. It all depends on the situation. I use 'coach station' and 'bus station' because I travel by coach a few times a year, but unless I need to make it clear I'm talking about the train station or the coach station, I just say 'station'. Waffle over! grin

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 19:18:36

anno and ana. Predictive text - hopefully ?

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 19:27:38

How can it be? They are two words with completely different meanings...

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 19:53:53

Ok, true. But it happens. Often confused

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 19:56:56

You may be right, Bellanonna. I only post from my PC so I wouldn't know about predictive text (although I would certainly turn it off if I had it on any sort of device!) smile

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 20:02:06

Well it probably isn't predictive test but it's, well, not unusual, although of course the pronunciation is different.

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 20:02:26

Text

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 20:07:33

Lots of inaccuracies are not unusual (such as it's for its, your for you're etc.). Doesn't excuse them IMO - but them I am an ultra-pedant where such matters are concerned! wink

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 20:08:19

then, not them - serves me right! grin

Bellanonna Sun 28-Feb-16 20:30:20

Ha ha. I'm one too, but then I think others can probably compute, do complicated mental arithmetic, or can indeed understand maths, which I can't so I'm a bit forgiving. Sometimes smile

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 28-Feb-16 20:32:20

Preductive text these days is very different from the old T9 method we had on phones. It's much smarter in predicting a range of potential words, so easier to use but you do have to watch which word is the app's preferred option. It's easy to miss the preferred word when you're tapping away. smile

Balini Wed 09-Mar-16 09:46:19

My pet hates are, people dropping there aitches at the start of a word, and not pronouncing there r's. My cah 'ad a puncture, instead of my car had a puncture. Mainly done in England.

Bellanonna Wed 09-Mar-16 11:29:07

Or dropping their aitches. confused.

Anya Wed 09-Mar-16 13:26:37

Belini I hate it when people drop their aitches to try to sound 'posh' and change the indefinite article to 'an' ....as in 'an 'otel' hmm

BBbevan Wed 09-Mar-16 16:03:35

Anya we were ways taught it was correct to say ' an ' otel' . Don' t know why.

BBbevan Wed 09-Mar-16 16:04:22

Always taught . Sorry

Elrel Wed 09-Mar-16 21:06:11

It seems that upper crust Americans say 'erbs for mint , parsley et al.

Why does an istorian ring a faint bell? Maybe I imagined that one!