I'm English

Perhaps the problem is that nationality is the wrong word. It should be "citizenship" or some other term that encompasses all the nationalities of the population of the UK.

Well, actually, you were born in the British Isles and in Great Britain as well as in England because England is part of those entities whether it belongs to the same country as the rest of Great Britain (all the mainland that makes up England, scotland and Wales; the great refers to the largeness of that island, not to plitical greatness) and the rest of the British Isles, which latter contains all of Ireland as well as all the islands around Ireland and Great Britain.

The British Isles is not a political entity. Neither is Great Britain (though the term is often used as if it were). The UK, on the other hand, is a political entity, to which England, amongst other places, belongs. So your nationality is British. You can call yourself English and I can call myself Lancastrian or a naturalised Scot, as the fancy takes me.

Reading through that, I'm thinking that really we should be calling our nationality UKish because residents of Eire are "British" in one sense too.

So in the end, it's all just word play.

As you were.

i'm english, always have been and always will be. and we never seem to be able to enter this as our nationality - however and welsh, irish and scottish seem to be able to on some forms.

i was born in england and live in england and while the rest of the uk [not as united as they once were unfortunately] is lovely for visiting now and again, i love to be able to come home to england.

england is a country and i was born here - not the british isles, great britain or the united kingdom.

North and South Korea are not united legally. Neither are Eire and Northern Ireland. England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (alphabetical order) are so Wales is not a separate country in the same way as the examples you give, ab. Neither is Scotland. Nor Northern Ireland. They retain their individual identities in many things, but legally they are united up to a point under the government of the United Kingdom. This cannot be said of The Koreas or the two parts of the island of Ireland.

I realise, however, that it is your hobby horse, so I wish you happy riding

Is there another country which consists of four countries ? Ireland is two countries and there is N and S Korea , where else?

Quite often (but not always) if you press the "u" on your keyboard it will take you down to the u on the dropdown list.

marmark1

There must be millions of people who have dual nationality - but if the form asks for 'country of birth' then the answer is obvious.

why would you be because the country where you choose to live may not be the country of your birth and you wish to apply for nationality of your country of residence. Some birth countries may make you relinquish your original nationality but most do not.
I know someone with triple nationality.

If the pull-down menu of countries of residence uses GB instead of UK, where does that leave Northern Ireland? I am Scottish by birth and accent, have lived in England for 46 years and and am a citizen of the UK of GB and NI.

The official name of the UK is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland." Choose your own little bit depending on your allegiencies.
Thank heavens all the countries are listed alphbetically.

How can you be two nationalities? And why would you be?

Funnily enough, it was the Scottish referendum on independence that made me comfortable with using UK in my address. Before that I'd always preferred to use Scotland, except when living in England, obviously. The referendum debate focussed my mind on the subject in a way that surprised me.

No. Why would I be? I'm happy to call the countries in the UK by their names and I'm also happy to call the UK the UK, depending on context. In the context of genealogy, I can see that the individual names of the countries in the UK could be very important, as could the counties, towns and villages.

MrBags has done some genealogical research and discovered that some of his not too distant ancestors were Cornishmen rather than Welshmen (though there may not be much difference in fact, both having a lot of Celtic connections), that one of his grandfathers was born in Melbourne, Australia (though grew up in Walses), and that one of his grandmothers was from Cork, Ireland. He had thought he was Welsh through and through, though actually, his eyes give away some Norse ancestry as well, which I noticed when we live in Oslo for a bit: I've only ever seen eyes the same colour as his in Norway, and the colour was quite common there

disappointed that bag ? grins]

OK. Seen it. That's the first time I've seen a list with the separate UK countries as well as UK in the same list. I didn't download.

Ah. I've never looked at a genealogy site, ab. That would explain why I've missed what I think you are referring to. Not sure why you're being obtuse about it though. I hope it's a free site you're telling me to download.

Thatbags, try down loading from the genealogy site 'Legacy' as I did yesterday, you will see it

Sorry, so it was thatbags.

'Twas I who asked, ana. I thought that would be the answer but was just checking because none of the lists I've seen that include UK have options for the countries that make up the UK.

The truly annoying thing is that on some list you scroll for

UK

and for others it's

GB

and you never know which it's going to be on international listings.

And for my other country, sometimes I have to scroll for S and at other times for C (H) - how annoying is that!

Further than U, obviously, dj, on those few forms that give Annie's preferred option.

Ah, thanks, ffinn. I should have guessed that actually, but didn't.

Further than what, ab?

well, I never knew that ffinnochio
thank you

I have to scrolled down further , can be irritating

On these lists that one is supposed to scroll down, I have found that typing the first letter of the country you need to find takes you straight to that letter of the alphabet. Works for me with F and UK.