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Who done it?

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Juney64 Tue 24-Jan-17 15:52:41

The following conversation took place when I was around six years old...

My 8 year old brother to my father: I done it, dad!

Father: you mean you did it! (slight volume raise)
Brother: yes, I've did it
Father: no, you've done it!! (volume up a notch)
Brother: yes, I done it
Father: (full volume)... you mean YOU DO'D it!!! angry

blush from both my parents. I won't repeat what my father said next. shock

Do you have any 'grammar lesson' memories?

hildajenniJ Fri 21-Jul-17 16:02:14

Mites grow up and tites hang down.
My DD mixes up then and than. She has done so since childhood, and however much I correct her, I have never been successful.

Ana Fri 21-Jul-17 15:17:48

You mean like "in a while?" confused

We use it all the time in the north of England, don't know about the south but I'm sure they do too!

grandtanteJE65 Fri 21-Jul-17 15:13:02

Both while and whilst are conjunctions and mean exactly the same according to Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary. While can also be a noun, which whilst cannot, again according to Chambers. If that strikes you as odd, it's probably because the use of while as a noun is most common in Scotland. Do you even say it in the south of England?

grandtanteJE65 Fri 21-Jul-17 15:06:15

You lie down "to lie" never takes an object.

"to lay" always takes an object. You lay a book on the desk.
We lay the table for dinner, because we place cutlery and crockery on it. There isn't any real difference in meaning between to place and to lay, as long as whatever you lay, lies flat, otherwise of course you would stand it on the table, won't you?

American English doesn't seem to distinguish between lie and lay, at all, probably some dialects of British English don't either.

HannahLoisLuke Wed 08-Feb-17 10:51:42

Haitch drives me crazy too, even the BBC is guilty.

An hotel is correct as the 'h' is not sounded.

Yorkshiregel Tue 07-Feb-17 08:52:49

Witzend I remember the 'turn it around' rule from my English teacher at school. It is obvious then isn't it.

English is easy for us people who are born here. Not so easy for a person from another country to learn.

Yorkshiregel Tue 07-Feb-17 08:38:26

Going 'off of' the subject at the end of that post. :-)

Yorkshiregel Tue 07-Feb-17 08:37:19

Grandmama that is a good way to remember the difference between stalagtites/mites.

I remember practice and practise by saying 'c' for a company or doctor, 's' for a sport.

Love Frank Gardner Emelle19! Have you seen the 2-part documentary of him and a friend in Papau New Guinea? Worth a watch.

Christinefrance Tue 07-Feb-17 08:31:37

Yes Jalima and you have to learn them not to do it again smile

Jalima Mon 06-Feb-17 23:53:48

you mean when someone borrowed you some money?

MaizieD Mon 06-Feb-17 23:40:37

pollyperkins

The one I never understand is when to use due to and owing to?

This is one of my pet hates! Modern dictionaries will tell you that both are an acceptable substitute for 'because' as they have become so by usage. I think when they're used that way it sounds like the writing of a primary school child who's been told off by their teacher for using 'because' too often!

Here's a page of google results which tell you what 'due to' really means:

www.google.co.uk/search?q=due+%2B+meaning&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=aweZWPnBBsnU8gfjiKugAQ

'Owing' is a bit more straightforward because it's really just about paying back something you've borrowed from someone (or something), or, paying for something.

Jalima Mon 06-Feb-17 23:33:36

primary

Jalima Mon 06-Feb-17 23:33:25

Alidoll tights weren't invented when I was a child grin
socks in primry then lisle stockings and suspenders for high school.

Nelliemoser Mon 06-Feb-17 22:47:19

Stalactites have to hold tight to the roof of a cave, and stalagmites might grow up from the floor to join them up.
So said my lovely geography teacher C1962. It's an aid memoir.
for which is which.

Auntieflo Mon 06-Feb-17 22:24:22

Oops.
Stalactites Grow down from the ceiling
Stalagmites Grow up from the ground

Auntieflo Mon 06-Feb-17 22:22:41

How about,
Stalactites grow from the ceiling and
stalagmites grow from the ground

Deedaa Mon 06-Feb-17 21:58:21

DD rang me today to ask if she shoud write "while" or "whilst" in a sentence. My Grammar for Grownups book wasn't any help but we decided that as she was writing a grant proposal for the EU "whilst" would look more impressive grin

Linsco56 Mon 06-Feb-17 21:08:06

Oh yes! Potassium, sodium, lithium, calcium, magnesium etc. I remember that well.

Alidoll Mon 06-Feb-17 20:18:30

Then there's

Please send Charlie Mackay a zebra if the lean horse can't munch short grass ...any ideas for that one?

I'll give you a clue...

Reactive stuff!

Alidoll Mon 06-Feb-17 20:16:27

Tights come down and mites climb up! (another way to remember which made me laugh as a child)

hallgreenmiss Mon 06-Feb-17 19:50:11

Yorkshiregel, that's exactly what EmilyHarburn was demonstrating;lay is a transitive verb and requires an object.

Jalima Mon 06-Feb-17 19:12:16

smile
I was taught that stalactites hold on tight
and stalagmites grow up with all their might

but I still have to think!

Grandmama Mon 06-Feb-17 19:00:35

Not exactly a spelling help - but stalactites have a C so they grow down from the Ceiling. Stalagtites have a G so they grow up from the Ground.

Jaycee5 Mon 06-Feb-17 18:12:09

I was taught

I before e except before c
or when pronounced a as in neighbour or weigh

I think there is a bit more to the verse too.

My father used to say 'there's no aitch on h'.
It is the only letter with a spelling so there is no excuse really for getting it wrong.

kathyd Mon 06-Feb-17 17:32:40

'i before e except after c' and when the sound is 'ee', doesn't always apply. Weird for example.