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Slovenly speech, incorrect grammar etc.

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NanKate Mon 05-Mar-18 14:49:15

The DJ Steve Wright is appalling with his slovenly speech. He usually starts his Love Songs programmes with a long drawn out L O.

Yesterday I switched off when he said in response to a song finishing 'Don't that sound good' so his grammar is rubbish too.

Some presenters leave the g off ing and add a k, as in somethink.

I could go on but I won't.

Over to you.

ditzyme Wed 03-Oct-18 10:37:14

And how about people who use 'could of' instead of the correct 'could have' etc? I find that so annoying.

gulligranny Mon 24-Sept-18 21:25:53

What is really getting to me lately is leaving the "s" off.
"She weighs 8 stone" "It cost fifty pound".
NO!!! It's "stones" and "pounds".

Love this thread, thank you ladies for letting me know I am not alone ....

Nanny27 Tue 11-Sept-18 14:28:40

I'm absolutely with woodlark on the 'haitch' pronunciation. I'd also like to add "mischeee-ve'us. It makes me want to curl up and cry. ???

TiggyW Tue 11-Sept-18 12:43:05

One of my pet hates is rising intonation at the end of a sentence, which suggests that it’s a question when it’s actually a statement. angry
I’m always tempted to say “Are you asking me or telling me?” confused
Another annoyance is ’Ibeetha’ (Ibiza). When I learnt Spanish there was no ‘I’ sound in the language, just ‘ee’. It should be pronounced ‘Eebeetha’.
The use of ‘good’ in answer to “How are you?” is infuriating; have you been a good boy/girl, or do you mean you are well?! hmm

sodapop Thu 30-Aug-18 08:38:23

That's a bit harsh hillwalker America has its regional accents too. There are lots of loud opinionated Brits as well.

hillwalker70 Thu 30-Aug-18 08:17:11

I am stood here, I am sat here, and worst of all, every time I turn on radio 4 there is a wretched American speaking, I use the term lightly, we have wonderful regional accents, we have Welsh, Scottish, Irish accents, why do we have to have loud opinionated yank voices that grate and irritate, stay in America and leave us to our own melodious accents.

Willow10 Wed 29-Aug-18 20:32:02

Pacific instead is specific confused

Long and thin instead of long and narrow always makes me yell at the tv. I've never seen a thin room or garden, any more than I've seen a fat one!

mcem Mon 16-Jul-18 16:21:43

grannyben I don't know where your GCs went to school in Scotland but at no time did I learn or teach Hitch Eye Jeye!

Grammaretto Mon 16-Jul-18 15:29:26

grannyben ?
My current irritations when it comes to spoken English on the BBC are ter for to and beginning a sentence with So
When My DC went to school in Scotland they had to relearn the alphabet. Aitch, Eye, Jay became Hitch Eye Jeye (to rhyme with eye)
Nostalgic strains from Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady and why can't the English teach their children how to speak and to set a good example to people whose English is painful to your ears. The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears. There even are places where English completely disappears, In America they haven't used it for years.

Grannyben Wed 11-Jul-18 20:21:36

My favourite is Chester draws

Melanieeastanglia Wed 11-Jul-18 17:59:26

Some of the examples quoted are, I agree, examples of incorrect speech - such as prostrate for prostate. However, language does evolve. If you listen to recordings from the 1950's, people speak completely differently. Many people had cut-glass accents which, by today's standards, sound very affected.

I like to speak reasonably well so I can be understood by anybody but without a posh plum in my mouth.

I love the variety of accents we have in the UK and other English speaking countries.

MissAdventure Wed 11-Jul-18 17:50:53

I'm a bit of a glottal stopper. blush but I never say would of or could of.

woodlark Wed 11-Jul-18 17:46:57

My most hated speech defect is the glottal stop, or missing "t". E.g. par*y, nine*een, li*le etc.
"Would of" and "should of" both give me apoplexy.
At grammar school in the 1950s I was taught "similar to, different from" but apparently it no longer applies.
But the worst is "HAITCH". As in HaitchBos, HaitchR2,
HaitchIV etc. OMG, whatever happened to Aitch?

Alexa Sat 14-Apr-18 09:35:39

Pollyperkins I do agree especially about "issues". 'Issues' is a metaphor which has become debased by inappropriate usage. 'Issues' meaning problems or troubles is still a good metaphor when the word refers to a source problem from which the other problem or problems issue. Like a wound issues blood or pus.

Bellanonna Sat 14-Apr-18 09:15:00

mabon1. Do you really say “from where did it come?” That should be “from whence did it come?”, surely? I’m an old rebel, I say “where did it come from?” ?

absent Sat 14-Apr-18 06:35:19

I think it is always valuable to know the rules before you decide to break them. Many poets, including Shakespeare, broke rules about the use of language to great effect. Just as many painters and musicians knew the rules before they broke them. It is important to know what you are doing.

Alexa Sat 14-Apr-18 01:03:03

She "was sat on the floor". No. She was sitting on the ground!

She "laid on the bed". No. She lay down on the bed.

sodapop Sat 17-Mar-18 21:22:49

Looking back in retrospect
Forward planning
Very unique

All of these leave me cross

pollyperkins Sat 17-Mar-18 17:42:34

My DC talk about having 'issues' when they mean problems. Sounds vaguely medical to me ! And alternate for alternative as well as in Ive got an alternate plan.! Sounds as if he changes his plan every other day. An Amercanism I think!

fourormore Thu 15-Mar-18 16:05:32

People that have 'windows' in their diaries tickle me too!
Also 'it is what it is' to me states the blatantly obvious but 'I know where they're coming from' so I'm 'good' grin

Scribbles Thu 15-Mar-18 12:03:21

"One pence" has me foaming at the mouth! It's singular, for goodness sake. One PENNY, please! I heard Jeremy Vine say this on R2 yesterday and was so busy shouting at the radio that I completely missed the rest of the item.angry

Oh, and when did "signpost" become a verb? (He was signposted to the Customer Service department, etc)

Nanny27 Thu 15-Mar-18 11:32:19

Magrithea - I have to disagree. As children develop they often mispronounce words. It is up to the parents to correct speech in the same way as we would correct any other mistakes.

Magrithea Mon 12-Mar-18 09:19:33

Defiantly instead of definitely!

But the way people speak is partly to do with where they grew up and the local accent, nothing to do with poor parenting!

MissAdventure Sat 10-Mar-18 18:35:14

grin

absent Sat 10-Mar-18 18:33:47

On the matter of teaching children the difference between the "f" and "th" sounds – as in fink and think – I once chatted to small boy who told me that he had collected some tadpoles and now he had "thour throgs".