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Can I get?

(170 Posts)
Toddleo Thu 16-Aug-18 16:28:25

I am really irritated by this modern way of asking for things.
In a cafe for example "can I get a large latte" "can I get a toasted sandwich"
I just want to scream "NO YOU CAN'T, because you are not allowed in the kitchen/behind the counter etc...."

What is wrong with "please may I have...." Grrrr

Bazza Mon 20-Aug-18 08:01:26

What about there you go?! Arghhhhh

FarNorth Mon 20-Aug-18 07:58:30

To me it's the double negative = positive, of 'no problem' that I'm not keen on. It confuses my brain.
Just like "You're not wrong." which I think is an Australian term.

OldMeg Mon 20-Aug-18 06:58:11

Oh dear! When my ‘kids’ text me asking for help I often text back ‘NP’.

think we’ve had threads denigrating the use of the words ‘kids’ before now ??

Marydoll Mon 20-Aug-18 06:50:24

When I retired as a teacher, on my leaving card were the words: NO PROBLEM!

It appears that no matter what I was asked to do, I would say, " Of course, no problem.." ?

maddy629 Mon 20-Aug-18 06:46:12

I'm sorry you feel that way Toddleo I love to hear Americanism's. Get over it and learn to enjoy other people's language. Jalima1108, I didn't even realise there was a pedants corner.

Baggs Mon 20-Aug-18 06:28:39

I'm prepared to retract my bunch of grumpy old women remark because I'm sure most of you are not usually grumpy old women, but the complaints on this thread are classic grumpy old person complaints against something harmless that generally younger people are doing.

Baggs Mon 20-Aug-18 06:04:57

I'm not reading too much into anything. What I'm doing is not minding common, casual, informal expressions.

And saying so.

What I dislike is negativity. This thread is full of it.

Y'all have a nice day, now! ?

Chewbacca Mon 20-Aug-18 05:15:08

At the end of the day, its basically no problem.

nellgwin Mon 20-Aug-18 02:14:24

Basically drives me nuts, basically

Day6 Mon 20-Aug-18 01:15:47

Surely anyone who isn't a grumpy old sod does that? It really isn't Pollyanna-ish, just un-grumpy during casual interactions and not harbouring resentment afterwards.

I think you are reading too much into it Baggs. I am not a grumpy old women and I don't harbour resentment, but I do a lot of internal eye rolling when everywhere I go, and spend money, the people paid to serve me tell me I am "No problem". It's become very common.

I fully understand the meaning of "no problem" but I'd rather they didn't convey that my being there and needing them (to do their job) had somehow been a problem but <shrug> "We coped"

I wonder if their vocabulary extends to "You're welcome". Oh and don't get me started on being greeted as "Guys" when we enter restaurants. We pushed the boat out recently and went somewhere that was (or used to be) quite exclusive for our friends' ruby wedding celebrations.

"What can I get you guys" was all very friendly when ordering but I did wonder if formality and polite, unobtrusive service is a thing of the past? We might as well have been at TGIs. I wouldn't have been a bit surprised if the waiters had served the food whilst blowing whistles, honking horns and twanging their braces. grin

FarNorth Mon 20-Aug-18 01:06:41

It's all gravy! grin Never heard of that one.

Thanks for that clarification, Baggs.

Shizam Sun 19-Aug-18 22:34:29

The one that is driving me to distraction is the word like. A perfectly acceptable word, except when people put it into a sentence every other word. It’s like driving me like sort of like crazy!!

4allweknow Sun 19-Aug-18 22:01:09

What gets me is the usage of trucks instead of lorries and cinema now shows movies instead of films. Has anyone heard "may I have" being used instead of "give me or I want"lately. There is a definite move to demanding instead of requesting nowadays.

oldbatty Sun 19-Aug-18 21:57:52

probably " its all gravy"

Jalima1108 Sun 19-Aug-18 21:38:04

grin
I must ask DD what she teaches her students in the way of colloquialisms.

ffinnochio Sun 19-Aug-18 21:30:00

?

Baggs Sun 19-Aug-18 21:19:10

Ooh, look what I just found at myenglishteacher.eu:

‘No problem’ is quite an informal way of saying ‘you’re welcome’.

It could also mean ‘yes, I can do it’, and is seen as a way of saying ‘This is easy, I can do it, and it doesn’t pose any problems’. Another way this could be said is, in response to

Another way this could be said is, in response to expression of regret, or gratitude when no thanks, or apology is necessary.

Example 1: “Could you help me with

“Could you help me with this please?” “Sure, no problem”
Example 2:

“Thank you for helping yesterday” “It was no problem at all”
I have listed some more below, and labelled them ‘I’ or ‘F’ to signify formal and informal expressions:-

You’re welcome (F)
Sure thing (I)
No worries (I)
Cool (I)
It’s all gravy (I)
Certainly (F)
Of course (F)
That’s absolutely fine (F)
Don’t mention it (F/I)
It’s nothing (I/F)
No probs (I)
You’re very welcome (F/I)
It’s my pleasure (F)
No sweat (I)
Now try to use a different one each day, so you get to practise different ways of saying ‘no problem’, every time!!

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See! It isn't just me.

Baggs Sun 19-Aug-18 21:15:11

If I ask for, say, a latte (I don't say "can I get?" so don't worry) and someone replies cheerfully with "no problem" I 'translate' it into what it does mean, which is something like "I will cheerfully get you a latte; that's what I'm here to do so it's no problem".

Surely anyone who isn't a grumpy old sod does that? It really isn't Pollyanna-ish, just un-grumpy during casual interactions and not harbouring resentment afterwards.

grannyqueenie Sun 19-Aug-18 21:11:57

baggs grin

Baggs Sun 19-Aug-18 21:09:30

There is probably a term for those nonsensical non-literal answers. Does anyone know what it is?

oldbatty Sun 19-Aug-18 21:02:49

so jump ship and go on another thread. See ya.

Baggs Sun 19-Aug-18 21:00:54

I think some of you are beng too literal. When someone says "no problem" in the situations described, it doesn't literally mean "no problem". I think everyone knows that. If someone gives a cheerful repsonse, don't complain!

Have the objectors never said something not quite perfect when they have felt awkward or tired or just fed up? Or do you always say the right thing in the right tone of voice and never just fluff your way through the day?

What a bunch of grumpy old women!

Day6 Sun 19-Aug-18 18:59:12

Anyone also finding themselves more and more cheesed off by the "No problem" response from those serving and being paid to serve customers?

To my mind, customers are not and never have been a problem, and their being there, in an establishment where they are paying (top dollar quite often) for services, is NOT A PROBLEM - ever.

"Yes, certainly" or "Of course" should be the response to reasonable requests.

I say thank you for good service or even indifferent service. I am not a problem they have overcome.

moggie57 Sun 19-Aug-18 18:56:51

its about watching usa movies .usally its "GET ME" A "or can i get .?" just carry on with your words please can i have?

icanhandthemback Sun 19-Aug-18 18:46:06

No, I don't find the way other people talk does grate on me. What irks me is the constant complaining about it on Gransnet.

I'm with you Baggs, the nature of language is that it evolves. If not, we'd be speaking like the language in Chaucer...mind you, at least I'd have understood The Nun's Priests Tale for O level!