Inaccuracies in books

Re Science. I t became compulsory with 1988 Education Act (National Curriculum etc)
'By raising the school leaving age to 16 (1972), this formed thebasis for creating a nationally organised science curriculum and education in England. However, the 1944 Education Act did not stipulate that science be taught.' says Wikipedia.

A complete lack of research on the part of many authors.

Saetana Yes, I have read Alison Weir's books too. Also Philippa Gregory is an historian and gives a long summary of sources and notes at the end of her books, and I have enjoyed hers too. But to my mind Hilary Mantel's "Wolf Hall" and "Bring up the Bodies" can't be beaten.

For those who love historical fiction but don't want it ruined by modern speech terms, check out books by Alison Weir. She is both a historian and a historical fiction writer and I've read both types of books by her - the Six Tudor Queens series is fantastic! She makes comprehensive notes available at the end of her novels to recap on what is truth, educated guess and, occasionally, changed slightly for the sake of the story.

All of the things mentioned so far frustrate me!

Nannarose I'm trying to thing of examples but naturally none spring to mind right now!
Re 'The heart's invisible furies' 50p issue: books aren't necessarily published exactly as authors write them. After the text is submitted copy editors and proof readers are let loose on them. This can be stressful for authors! I wonder if the writer of that book originally wrote 'ten bob' but some smart alec young copy editor changed it to an amount that they felt that modern readers might understand? That would be entirely consistent with my experience anyway!

I am 81 and we did Science at school , and Latin I found them both equally trying !

Jane10 - I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but it seems to me that there will always have been different views & experiences among people.
For instance, I have recently been annoyed by some newspaper & radio references that women & girls were not encouraged to do sport in the early 20C. I am happy to believe that was their own family / community experience, but not that it was widespread.
I have also had some women of my age (late 60s) say that 'girls didn't do science when I was at school'. I say 'maybe they didn't at your school - we did at mine!

Wheniwasyourage I can still hum the tune to the radio version of 'The Swish of the Curtain'. Did you know the author, Pamelo Brown, began that book when she was 14?

An anachronism which annoy me is when people say someone is pregnant in the days when no one would have used that word.
We had so many euphemisms for it and my aunties would even whisper, 'expecting', presumably because it hinted at what had gone on to cause it

And when men come into the room wearing a hat and make no attempt to take it off!

I also get on my high horse when someone uses 'prodigal' to mean returned. But I think I've mentioned that before.

About William Wallace - have just heard what I assume to be an accurate history of his life, by Ian Oliver. A sad age and a sad history indeed.

omniglot.com/writing/scots.htm
but cinema goers would be flummoxed!

Mary Queen of Scots accent. Apparently she spoke the old Scots language. Not Gaelic which was not spoken in the lowlands of Scotland. She continued to speak Scots In France though French would have become the most dominant, as well as other languages. She was not taught English

Farmore that was my point ???

I dislike modern attitudes being applied within recently written 'historical novels.' I actually really enjoy books written at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century. Yes they may sometimes seem politically incorrect but were accurate reflections of how people thought back then when they were bang up to date. They're also usually very well written and can be very funny. (Depending on the author of course as it always does!)

On the cheaper Kindle books I have deleted some because of stupid mistakes like this. Inaccuracies of the kind described annoy me, as they could so easily be prevented (a young author only has to ask their Mum or Dad?!?!)

Spelling mistakes, grammar, and often the names getting confused are things that niggle and cause me to stop reading.

Yes the Scottish accent when it should have been French was the first thing I noticed about the clip of the new film. I also have trouble with an American accent in ancient times and a posh English accent if an evil alien is speaking.

Glad I’m not the only one who gets irritated by inaccuracies!

With regard to brown-eyed parents having blue-eyed children, 2 of our 5 have blue eyes, even though both husband and I have brown. No, I didn’t have an affair with the postman- used to be family joke?. Blue-eyed parents having brown-eyed child is pretty rare, but genetics of eye colour is quite complicated.

I have given up on historical novels because even if they get the language and facts right, the characters always react as if they lived in the 21 century, especially in relationships between men and women.

It stops me watching costume dramas on television or in films.

I noticed that 50p pocket money error in The Heart's Invisible Furies too. It really irritated me (but didn't spoil my enjoyment of the book, so don't be put off Sparklefizz )
And yes, I too get cross when modern idioms are used in period novels - I read a book recently that was liberally sprinkled with these anachronisms, but for the life of my I can't recall which book it was

DD had a copy of "The Swish of the Curtain", but it wasn't the copy I enjoyed as a child in the 50s, it was a new copy bought for her. Little did I know that it was an updated version. Almost everything was the same except that Maddy bought stockings for 50p!!! Apart from the fact that the stockings cost 10/6, if she had been shopping in the 70s she would have been buying tights!

That one annoyed me for some time. In fact, I find it still annoys me! What on earth was the point in trying to protect precious children from realising that things change and if you don't understand old money, ask your parents?

Yes! I saw that in a clip recently
Actually, as this is a thread in pedants' corner I should say that I heard that in a clip recently

giving Mary a Scottish accent when she grew up in France
Yes! I saw that in a clip recently
and the fact that they never met.

The trouble is, directors etc will say it is artistic licence but so many people will believe it is all true.

Bluebelle I will try The Land of the Long White Cloud again (I have downloaded the sequel too) and try to ignore the modern Americanisms.

the murderer was supposedly revealed because the ‘detective’ knew that two brown-eyed parents couldn’t produce a blue-eyed child.
Oh dear!
We had a chart at work which showed that this was indeed quite possible - and even that two blue eyed parents can produce a brown-eyed child although that is more rare.

Oh yes, I too find it infuriating! However, it's difficult - I'm sure that a lot of novels have mistakes in that I just don't notice.
Also, there are lots of things that just have to be imagined - I find that a good plot and engaging characters make me more forgiving.

I have the Diary of a Farmer's Wife that is based on a lost document, re-written from memory (or made up?). The author makes this clear and we are invited to read it, not as a historical document, but like a folk song - passed down, altered, re-imagined, but with a truth at its core.

Why not write to the author and point these things out.
I did it once and got a nice reply, saying she'd check and correct in the next edition.

I am reading The Heart's Invisible Furies too and am also annoyed by the errors. However, I will read on as the story is getting interesting.

Yes! Just tossed aside a book where the murderer was supposedly revealed because the ‘detective’ knew that two brown-eyed parents couldn’t produce a blue-eyed child.

Wrong! ?