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sodapop Mon 29-Jul-19 19:03:08

I am currently reading a thriller written by a very well known and prolific author.
The story has a thread running through it about a group of vigilantes who mete out their own justice and the group is called " The Just Deserts"

I am finding this so irritating every time it crops up in the book. What happened to proof readers ?

Esspee Tue 30-Jul-19 15:10:53

Sorry, don't have time to read all the contributions but just time to say I have done my share of proof reading and deserts is correct. ( from the same root as deserved)

GabriellaG54 Tue 30-Jul-19 15:02:49

There shock there smile

GabriellaG54 Tue 30-Jul-19 15:01:38

I was sat There...
Shudder shock

GabriellaG54 Tue 30-Jul-19 15:00:39

That's the weird thing about English language. Many words sound the same as others which are spelled differently. Some are not pronounced as they are spelled.

crazyH Tue 30-Jul-19 13:56:09

'Would of' and 'stood standing '.......??

Hm999 Tue 30-Jul-19 13:48:29

The problem arises because of pronunciation. Deserts we tend to pronounce one way, desserts we pronounce another.

Megs36 Tue 30-Jul-19 13:42:03

Yes patronising Maw, we can't all be well read , erudite, correctly schooled, or grammar 'perfect'

MawBroonsback Tue 30-Jul-19 12:18:37

No way I am afraid scottiebear - but good try!

BazingaGranny Tue 30-Jul-19 11:43:41

Well, I always thought it was ‘just desserts’, so have had some re-thinking to do today!

As regards computer spell checkers, I refer to mine as the mango checker, when it wanted to change ‘among’ for ‘mango’. ‘Mango’ in the letter didn’t make ANY sense at all, but it was correctly spelled! ??

kircubbin2000 Tue 30-Jul-19 11:41:50

I despair of our education system every time I look on social media. The majority of users have no idea of basic grammar and spelling. What annoys you? I would have went, loose instead of lose, would of,I seen etc.???

dragonfly46 Tue 30-Jul-19 11:20:19

My DD was a journalist in another life and became a proof reader. She saw the writing on the wall (no pun intended) and left before she was made redundant. Proof readers do not exist any more - journalists are supposed to proof their own copy which is almost impossible to do as you do not pick up on your own mistakes.

Margs Tue 30-Jul-19 11:09:35

I used to be a proof-reader for various publishing enterprises.

And then that nice Mister Gates gave us Microsoft with a spell-checker facility.

End of my career.

(Incidentally, whilst a spell-checker can do grammar, punctuation and spelling it's not smart-arse enough to do context. Why?)

Barmeyoldbat Tue 30-Jul-19 11:09:31

Its OK Sodapop to have got it wrong, I often think a word doesn't look right. Oh JRM wouldn't like me using got or like, better get in the naughty corner.

Aepgirl Tue 30-Jul-19 11:03:50

Proofread for an educational book company. The problem is that many authors don’t like being corrected!

Scottiebear Tue 30-Jul-19 10:58:26

Don't thinks it's an incorrect spelling - it's an archaic spelling. Is the book set in modern day or in the past.

henetha Tue 30-Jul-19 10:50:27

I love this thread. It's very sweet... grin

BradfordLass72 Tue 30-Jul-19 10:44:55

Ok Maw I give in. I will strive for perfection in all my dealings with Gransnet in future.

Only then will you get your just deserts sodapop grin

I wish they had been called 'Just Desserts' as I love to imagine vigilantes as meringues or profiteroles (what does it profiterole a man if he gains his just desserts but loses his soul?" to paraphrase or is it parachute? Mark 8:36)

Of course they'd have to ride into the Black Forest for gateau, shoot a renegade mousse as it charged and when they sprained an ankle doing all this, apply RICE pudding. grin

sandwichgeneration Tue 30-Jul-19 10:40:56

Desserts are "super sweet" whilst deserts are just "sandy". That's how I teach my pupils to remember it.
I used to proof-read for a publishing company 30 years ago. I'm told it isn't done in-house any longer due to costs. It often shows.

newgran2019 Tue 30-Jul-19 10:39:39

I work as a (non-fiction) editor and proofreader, and it is sadly true that in a few rare cases we do get fined for errors in important texts such as medical ones. Luckily it is very rare now that so many are involved in publishing each text.

As for 'just deserts': Our English word 'dessert' comes from a French word meaning “to remove what has been served” or de-serve: desservir.

'Deserts' here is the plural of 'desert', meaning 'that which one deserves'. 'Desert' in this sense is now archaic and rarely used outside this phrase.

Hence the confusion, I suppose. I keep wondering about doing a fiction editing course, but most trade publishers don't bother that much, as we have seen!

GabriellaG54 Tue 30-Jul-19 10:22:01

The title is correct. To mete out just deserts means to deal justice to the perpetrators.
Desserts = puddings
Deserts = vast tracts of barren land or can mean retribution.

TATT Tue 30-Jul-19 10:20:45

Well I never! I don’t think I’ve ever written it down, but I’m sure I would have written ‘desserts’. When you think about it, saying someone gets a pudding when they get their comeuppance is a bit daft, though!

trisher Tue 30-Jul-19 09:59:31

Phew! I readthe OP and thought what is going on? Have suddenly lost the ability to spot a mistake. Thank goodness for other posters or I might have believed it should be double 's'.That's the trouble with getting older you start to doubt your abilities.

Missfoodlove Tue 30-Jul-19 09:19:32

Are you being a trifle too picky? ???

Nortsat46 Tue 30-Jul-19 08:31:50

As a 'Grauniad' reader of some 40 years standing, I quite enjoy spotting errors.

I am equally capable of generating a few myself. I was meeting friends for lunch and advised them I had booked a table at the Sunborne Yatch. My friend spent some time unsuccessfully googling it, to check her journey on a map, before she realised I meant Sunborne Yacht ...

Ginny42 Tue 30-Jul-19 07:19:28

'Desserts' are sweet, with two sugars in the middle. That's how I taught my DD to distinguish between the two. The two in common usage anyway.