Any to add ?

FannyCornforth

Purplepixie

I don’t get hung up about any words being mispronounced - we are all different. There are people dying in the world and here you are moaning about mispronounced words - really?

What a silly comment PurplePixie

Shall we just talk about people dying?
And who exactly is moaning?

I think you might be suffering from Whataboutery, PurplePixie, if I have understood the term correctly.

People can talk about death (if they want to) as well as mispronunciations.

I agree bout most of the words mentioned so far. Has anyone mentioned Wemberly, where they play football?

I had a baffling conversation with a Liverpool friend a day or two ago. She was talking about someone apparently called Kamanda (like Amanda). I had never heard of this person. Then she mentioned that they called her Kamanda since she was given the CBE. It dawned on me then she was saying “Commander”. I’m from the north too, but I have always said Commahnder, with a long A, and I simply didn’t recognise the word.

Talking of ‘recognise’, what about ‘reckernise’?

If you have a certain accent it just sounds ridiculous if you pronounce certain words in a particular way.
?

I find a lot of younger people, particularly minor celebs on TV, pronounce some words with an 'f' or 'v' instead of 'th'

Eg I fink we bofe went out togever

I do understand that some people may have a speech impediment but it seems far more generalised now.

And actually there is an important point underlying all this: English is a very flexible language capable of conveying very precise meaning, so knowing that lending is different from borrowing, for example, matters. I lament the conflation of persuade and convince, which mean subtly different things, but recognise that I am in a tiny minority.

Purplepixie

I don’t get hung up about any words being mispronounced - we are all different. There are people dying in the world and here you are moaning about mispronounced words - really?

What a silly comment PurplePixie

Shall we just talk about people dying?
And who exactly is moaning?

Very true for me, but the opposite way. If I say bath or grass instead of barth and ghrass I get laughed at , FannyCornforth!

Purplepixie

I don’t get hung up about any words being mispronounced - we are all different. There are people dying in the world and here you are moaning about mispronounced words - really?

People are allowed to be pedants despite what's happening in the world. It can help to have something lighthearted to chat about. I get upset when people referring to the animal, sloth. say it to remind with cloth . That's not how you pronounce it. I blame Ice Age.

Garage / Farage
Garridge / Farridge

Well, it is a very special anniversary today

If you have a certain accent it just sounds ridiculous if you pronounce certain words in a particular way.
If I say barth or grahss, for exahmple, it just sounds absurd

I don’t get hung up about any words being mispronounced - we are all different. There are people dying in the world and here you are moaning about mispronounced words - really?

Gararzh (the thing you put the car in) vs. garridge, reminds me of an anecdote from a dd who once had a temp job in an extremely upmarket central London estate agent’s office.

Two of the Sloaney-type 20-something women were having a major bitch about another woman, who was temporarily out of the office.

Dd related how, after pulling the other to pieces for several minutes, they finally returned to their work.

Only for one of them to turn around two minutes later and say to the other, ‘And she says garridge!’

We found it ? ? - I’m afraid to say that in this house we say ‘gararzh’ too.

Fanny I always taught my pupils about the schwa. They loved learning new words and meanings. It is taught in a few phonics programmes as well.

My OH always says coldslaw which makes me grit my teeth every time!

And I just say theatre without a special emphasis on the 'a'

I also say gararjh ?

Sorry, Blossoming, it's a garridge.

I say joggraphy and thea-ter. How do others pronounce it?

I also say gararjh ?

FannyCornforth

A shwah is the most used phoneme in the English language.
It's pronounced 'uh' or 'euh'
As in butter (could be two there!)
It's not taught (or even mentioned) when teaching phonics.
It's a bit of an odd one really Lucca.
I'm sure that someone else can explain better than I can

Ok. Never heard of that.

My mother always said “poyetry “ ( poetry)

My grandad had a very annoying thing about pronouncing words as they are written.
He did it to wind up my Nan I'm sure.
Cup-board was guaranteed to drive her up the wall.

Joggraphy - I'm sure I say that!

I have a friend who pronounces the 'a' in theatre as in thee-ah-tre.
Is it a Bristol thing because I've noticed others do it too?

A shwah is the most used phoneme in the English language.
It's pronounced 'uh' or 'euh'
As in butter (could be two there!)
It's not taught (or even mentioned) when teaching phonics.
It's a bit of an odd one really Lucca.
I'm sure that someone else can explain better than I can

FarNorth

^Wrapped for rapt^ - there's a difference?

Does wrath not rhyme with math? I always thought it did.

Lots of people in Scotland say 'I learned them that' meaning 'taught them'.

What is correct in one area might differ in another. Dialects are another thing again.

Wrapped has a softer ending than the 't' ending where I'm from. I can hear the difference, though notice it more when it's written.

Does wrath not rhyme with math? I always thought it did.
I've always pronounced it Wroth eg The Grapes of Wroth (sic)

Joolery

And many of the above.

FannyCornforth

timetogo2016

Plus FannyCornforth i was talking about my dh no one else.

Yes - but you said that the reason that he speaks badly is due to where he is from.
I think that you should accept that what you wrote was ill considered.
There is no shame in being wrong, after all.

Wrapped for rapt?? Both pronounced the same.

Baggs

FannyCornforth

Great thread!

Vica Versa

Are you sure it's vica you're hearing, FC? The e at the end of vice in 'vice versa' should be sounded as a definite schwa. It may sometimes sound like an a.

I don’t understand
In English I’d say vysa. Versa.

In Italian veeceh versa.

What is this schwa ??

Have to add my all time annoyance - Tumeric it's TurRmeric. John Torode pronounces it incorrectly all the time.

FannyCornforth

recklessgran

People who mix up bought and brought.
Ditto borrow and lend.
As in " I borrowed him £10" instead of lent.
Drives me nuts!

That isn't pronunciation though!
It's using the wrong word (is there a word for this?)

Malapropism