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Use of the word "floor" instead of "ground"

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fifeywifey Sat 22-Jan-22 14:15:57

When someone on the television describes a fall or collapse by someone in an outdoor setting they say "he/she just fell to the floor". If it's outside the word is "ground"! This irks me.
I should really change my user name to "Grumpygran". smile

Witzend Sun 06-Feb-22 13:44:53

Is/was it a regional thing?
I do remember particularly noticing it when we moved (I was 9) from the SE to what used to be Warwickshire.
Maybe one of those regional things that has spread, much like, ‘needs done’, ‘needs washed’, etc. which I gather used to be a Scottish way of speaking.

Mamie Sat 29-Jan-22 06:16:13

I think "shipping costs" have always been around in British English. I would have thought it went back to the days when goods were literally sent by ship.

biglouis Sat 29-Jan-22 01:18:12

In the USA everything is "shipped" even if its sent overland. I notice thats beginning to creep in to the UK as well.

I sell online to the USA and my friends pick me up for referencing checks, bank wire and shipping costs. Of course they know what cheques, bank transfer and postage are. We are two nations divided by a common language.

Doodle Sun 23-Jan-22 20:09:09

Cherry ? grin

Marydoll Sun 23-Jan-22 16:11:48

Baggs, I was thinking the same thing. Possibly, a Glesca Grannies meet up in the autumn?

Marydoll Sun 23-Jan-22 16:10:10

Mind you, it sometimes takes quite a while for me to accept some new words and expressions. My bad is still a work in progress, some ten years on from when I first heard it.

Oldnproud, I cannot accept that term, that is indeed a step too far for me, I'm afraid.

grandtanteJE65 Sun 23-Jan-22 13:07:41

It tends to annoy me too, but I thought it was actually a dialectal form and most common in the Manchester eller Birmingham areas.

Am I completely wrong?

Oldnproud Sun 23-Jan-22 13:00:12

Marydoll

*Oldnproud*, you are on the ball!

However, if I needed to explain my word choice in using irk as a noun, I could justify it by saying that, anything is acceptable in the world of creative writing. ?

I believe that as a pedant, I may have double standards!

I forgot to say, Marydoll, that I happily accept your justification. I have come to love the flexibility and evolution of our language.

Mind you, it sometimes takes quite a while for me to accept some new words and expressions. My bad is still a work in progress, some ten years on from when I first heard it.

Baggs Sun 23-Jan-22 12:58:04

Marydoll

Oh you are clever Baggs.
I hope you and your family are well!

? Ahoy, Mdoll! Yes all well here, thank you. Hope you are alright too. And I hope we can have a grans meet-up this year. It's been too long!

Oldnproud Sun 23-Jan-22 12:52:59

Caleo

Saying floor when you mean ground is an irk.

Not to a pedant, I wouldn't have thought.

An irritation, perhaps? Better suggestions welcome ?

Caleo Sun 23-Jan-22 10:58:59

Saying floor when you mean ground is an irk.

Callistemon21 Sun 23-Jan-22 10:42:49

Irksomeness?
In a state of being irked?

Well, all this could get me in a state ?

Marydoll Sun 23-Jan-22 09:21:10

Oh you are clever Baggs.
I hope you and your family are well!

Baggs Sun 23-Jan-22 09:15:58

I think I might have to adopt "irk" as a noun. Close to jerk but less aggressive ?

Marydoll Sun 23-Jan-22 08:51:15

Oldnproud, you are on the ball!

However, if I needed to explain my word choice in using irk as a noun, I could justify it by saying that, anything is acceptable in the world of creative writing. ?

I believe that as a pedant, I may have double standards!

Marydoll Sun 23-Jan-22 08:44:31

Oldnproud

Marydoll

Kali2

I am constantly amazed at the things that irks people.

I thought Pedants' Corner was the equivalent of Soop's Kitchen, a safe haven, where we are able to post freely about our grammar irks, or is it grammatical irks? I wouldn't want to get it wrong. wink

grammar.collinsdictionary.com/english-usage/what-is-the-difference-between-floor-and-ground

Irk as a noun? Cheeky! wink grin

Testing the waters! ?

Oldnproud Sun 23-Jan-22 08:40:08

Marydoll

Kali2

I am constantly amazed at the things that irks people.

I thought Pedants' Corner was the equivalent of Soop's Kitchen, a safe haven, where we are able to post freely about our grammar irks, or is it grammatical irks? I wouldn't want to get it wrong. wink

grammar.collinsdictionary.com/english-usage/what-is-the-difference-between-floor-and-ground

Irk as a noun? Cheeky! wink grin

Ali08 Sun 23-Jan-22 01:57:02

Oh now you've done it...
UK - we call it ground floor, because it's on the ground but Americans call it first floor - GRRRR!!
I've found myself lately calling my cushions pillows, Americans again!
Soil is dirt, dirt is soil although I think dirt refers to dusty, dry soil.
I was also brought up to refer to it as a sitting room as the lounge was a waiting area in an airport - but I'm not in the NE anymore, so it's a lounge! Lol
This fairly recent fad of saying things like, "Joe Bloggs dies!"
Oh, he does it more than once? How inconsiderate of him. No, "Joe Bloggs DIED!"
Fifeywifey, I'm always shouting at the telly. "Boris, get a decent barber!" "Get your hands out of your pockets and stand up straight!" "Couldn't afford the material for a whole dress?"

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Jan-22 23:18:44

Elspeth45

Here in Oz a lounge is a sofa. Sitting room is lounge room. I hate both!

Oh yes, that confused me.
A friend of DD's said she had a new lounge.
When we went to visit I expected to see an extension to the house.

Caleo Sat 22-Jan-22 21:54:37

I remember when 'lounge' became the in- word. It was during the 1930s. My parents said "drawing room" and my mother made fun of 'lounge' by saying it was the wall in our house people leaned against when they were using the phone.

Elspeth45 Sat 22-Jan-22 21:53:26

Here in Oz a lounge is a sofa. Sitting room is lounge room. I hate both!

CherryCezzy Sat 22-Jan-22 20:34:47

Doodle, that's just floored me ?

Doodle Sat 22-Jan-22 20:21:16

What about my pelvic floor? As that’s ‘indoors’ I suppose that’s right. Shame it’s not pelvic ground or I’d have it dug up and re laid. ?

Mamie Sat 22-Jan-22 19:44:19

But le plancher des vaches can mean dry land. ?

Mamie Sat 22-Jan-22 19:41:04

I always used to use le plancher, but swiftly realised that most of my neighbours talked about le sol. (When we moved to our first French village there was one house with an earth floor).