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Why is motherhood still the first thing journalists think of?

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MerylStreep Wed 22-Feb-23 08:59:32

Houseplantqueen
I have to agree that her outfit was unprofessional. She was there
as a senior police officer. Why was she not in uniform.

Iam64 Wed 22-Feb-23 08:39:19

It’s about that Thing I imagine - unconscious bias.
Women are still defined as daughter, mother, sister , auntie, wife/single etc in a way that doesn’t happen with men.

Katie59 Tue 21-Feb-23 21:37:00

Journalists press the emotional button or any other kind of disadvantaged button because it get read more.

lemsip Tue 21-Feb-23 21:14:59

grandtante you say
' but if the reporter wanted to have made this cheap point,'
....................................

what? How can you even suggest that it is a cheap point

hollysteers Tue 21-Feb-23 20:59:54

I remember an eminent poet in our bookgroup winning a prestigious national poetry prize with television coverage and the local paper’s headline was “Mum wins…..”

sodapop if I am not mistaken, a gransnetter on a regular thread, always asked the value of a newcomer’s house in a jokey way.

M0nica Tue 21-Feb-23 20:41:25

I am happy to describe myself as a mother and grandmother, but it is not the be all and end all of my life. There is more to me than that.

CanadianGran Tue 21-Feb-23 19:16:00

This has always been an irritation for me. Women in news headlines seemed to be defined by their family status, but men by their age, then occupation and place of residence.

Baggs Tue 21-Feb-23 18:50:29

I suspect it isn't the first thing journalists think of. It might be the first piece of information that is given to them or that they find out and, among all the other things a woman can be, it is still one of the most important. There's nothing wrong with mentioning it.

NotSpaghetti Tue 21-Feb-23 18:38:07

I really wasn't thinking you were policing Fanny -
I was actually feeling for you and your circumstances and thinking it wasn't very thoughtful of me. And then I thought it was insensitive to anyone who had had a loved mother die young.
That's why I wanted to say sorry.
flowers

HousePlantQueen Tue 21-Feb-23 18:30:57

Worse than this I think, is the full attack, by a female journalist no less, in the Daily Mail, of course, on the senior detective heading up the operation before Nicola Bulley was found. The journalist was hysterical about the fact that she was wearing a 'tight fitting dress' and 'stilettos' saying that what she was wearing was unprofessional. Unbelievable.

www.nwemail.co.uk/news/23330512.cumbrias-chief-constable-slams-journalist-sexist-jibe

Mollygo Tue 21-Feb-23 17:57:43

It’s to do with the idea, which I’ve read recently, that we, the GBP, need to know all the details in order to adad our own informed judgements.
So just in case I’m in the news tomorrow, I’ll pre-empt them by saying I’m a teacher, so you can guess my income, an (xx aged) mother, grandmother, campanologist and dog walker who lives in a house at the top of a hill and likes the occasional tot of Baileys Chocolate Luxe.
What would the media, especially TikTok make of that?

eazybee Tue 21-Feb-23 17:49:12

I remember the scientist who developed the anti-covid vaccine (ashamed not to know her name) being described first as 'mother of triplets'.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Feb-23 17:43:46

I think it gets worse with age, being described as ‘a pensioner’. I’m past the age where the fact that I have a son would be relevant, but I would hate to be described as ‘a pensioner’. So I have been in receipt of my state pension for quite a few years - but I’m a woman. I am not defined by one of my means of income. Doubtless though, ‘woman’ would be qualified by ‘elderly’ - but why? Whatever has happened to merit a report by the media, what does my means of income or age have to do with it? It’s happened ffs,

Mattsmum2 Tue 21-Feb-23 17:18:07

Me too mumofmadboys. I often think if someone goes missing whether they be male or female, do they have a family somewhere. I think of all the things journalists report on that this is way down on my list.

mumofmadboys Tue 21-Feb-23 17:01:04

I would happily be described as a mother. I am proud to be a mum!

FannyCornforth Tue 21-Feb-23 16:10:42

NotSpaghetti

Sorry Fanny I thought this was relevant.
Apologies.

Please don’t apologise!
I’m not the thread police, I just thought it was a bit odd, when on the actual thread about Nicola Bully, we are encouraged not to talk about her circumstances.
Ignore me, it’s up to you what you talk about thanks

sodapop Tue 21-Feb-23 15:59:30

I agree grandtante the other thing that often puzzles me in media reporting is why the cost of their house is included. Not in this case of course but often when a crime is reported the victim lives in a £250,000 house, why is this relevant ?.

AGAA4 Tue 21-Feb-23 15:57:13

Women are often described by their status in the family - mother grandmother.
I remember a women I knew of who had an accident and was described as grandmother of 3, 69. Nowhere did they mention that she was an eminent surgeon.

NotSpaghetti Tue 21-Feb-23 15:57:07

Sorry Fanny I thought this was relevant.
Apologies.

FannyCornforth Tue 21-Feb-23 15:54:29

This thread is a bit tin earred, isn’t it?
A relevant question, but there’s no need to bring NB into it.

(Speaking as one who is not a mother, and whose own mother died young)

NotSpaghetti Tue 21-Feb-23 15:49:40

I often think the age is an odd one too as that's often mentioned for no apparent reason.
... but it's not just journalists:

Nicola Bulley 45y Old mum of 2 little girls missing from River Wyre area since last Friday morning at 9:15am walking her dog, Willow

...a thread on Gransnet. This one has age and a mum.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 21-Feb-23 15:19:13

Reading about Nicola Bulley reminded me of all the other times the first thing said about a female victim of a crime, or one who ia missing, is that she is A MOTHER, if it so happens that she has children.

Motherhood is not the be-all and end-all of female existence anymore than wifehood is, and hasn't been since the 1970s!

But even today, you can correctly assume that if the missing person had been described as" Eminent surgeon missing from home - last seen walking dog" that person would not have been a woman, but a man. And nowhere would the reporter have informed us that he was the father of two and grandfather of six!

Obviously, it is heart-rending to think of two little girls crying for their mother, but if the reporter wanted to have made this cheap point, he could have done so in a foot-note, after telling us something that might actually help us recognise the woman in question.