Ts

Silvergirl

Yes, where has this extra h come from? i.e. Shtrengh, shtrap,
shtride, etc. Most young people do it now. I absolutely hate it. It reminds me of drunken slurring. Are they being taught this at school?

Some answers to your query from my favourite website.

www.quora.com/Why-do-I-pronounce-my-S-sounds-like-SH-sounds-and-what-is-the-cause

My first boyfriend, from Bucks, regularly put pe_rol in his car

Yes, where has this extra h come from? i.e. Shtrengh, shtrap,
shtride, etc. Most young people do it now. I absolutely hate it. It reminds me of drunken slurring. Are they being taught this at school?

Somethink, anythink, haitch, dropping letters are all annoying to me.
I keep telling the children and grandchildren but I just get "Oh stop being such a grammar N@zi!"

Thanks for the reminder about Betty Botter. We used to sing it, but those who omit the *ts^ would just say
Be’y Bo’er bought some bu’er😁

ie, too much lying around leads to heaviness.
maybe.

Sparklefizz

Alex Beresford may be from the Bristol area. When I moved here, I noticed everybody said Wells for Wales. Very confusing. They also add an "L" on words that don't have it, such as "Good IdeaL", "diarrhoeaL" etc.

Oh yes, he may be. DD and her friend met him years ago in Bristol.

I've noticed Bristolians say "I was led on the bed" too.

i like that bit of butter etc.
but i hadn't realised it was to emphasise the Ts; rather the difficulty of distinguishing correctly butter/bitter/batter/bit of !

Speaking of 'T's, I remember a Tongue Twister from my youth :

Betty Botter bought some butter. But, she said, the butter's bitter! If I put it in my batter it will make my batter bitter. But, a bit of better butter will make my batter better. So, she bought a bit of butter better than her bitter butter, And she put it in her batter, so the batter was not bitter.

I was taught a shorter version but couldn't remember it all, and Googled the version above. It was apparently written in 1899, so even then it seems that people were having Trouble with their 'T's

(I used to say that my children saved them up as teenagers so they had a good supply of 'tuts')

The late, great Sean Connery famously spoke with the additional 'h' as in "shaken not shtirred' ! Bit of a trademark.

Kate1949

Oh yes the 'sh' thing. Carol Vorderman describes things as 'shooj' instead of huge.

A lot of presenters can’t pronounce huge. If it’s not shooge it’s phewje.

Drives me mad

we have many american readers.
do they all speak foolishly ?

i wonder if some of these commentators ever consider how this comes across to people who do speak in these ways.
the whole of ireland, illiterate? really?
and much of south london too.
i don't think so.

Sueki44

No sorry , haitch is unforgivable and marks you out as illiterate. It’s an aspirate’h’.

I don't say haitch but that's a ridiculous judgement.

I wonder if some of the foolish pronunciation is picked up from Americans speaking.

Febury is my only bugbear ever.

The Tory MP Steve Brine said we are suffering from 'long Boris'. That must be a new disease!

Oh, yes, - the added ‘h’ in e.g. shtrong - I’m hearing that a lot lately.
The missing ‘t’ has been ubiquitous for a long time, and I sometimes think the Beeb actually tell presenters to drop Ts on purpose, in case they otherwise - shock horror! - come across as a bit posh.

I was listening to Woman’s Hour and two people being interviewed kept dropping the ‘g’ from words E.g.

Shoppin, walkin, sayin,

I’ve had enough or even enuf of this slovenly language. 😏

No sorry , haitch is unforgivable and marks you out as illiterate. It’s an aspirate’h’.

Sparklefizz - that’s so funny - “diarrhoeaL”

Isn't it all about trying to sound 'down wiv da kids'? Street cred and all that nonsense.

If I remember correctly Alex Beresford wife is Welsh and he is learning the Welsh language.

Alex Beresford may be from the Bristol area. When I moved here, I noticed everybody said Wells for Wales. Very confusing. They also add an "L" on words that don't have it, such as "Good IdeaL", "diarrhoeaL" etc.

I don't know who the continuity announcer is on BBC but he's guilty of all those transgressions and I find myself shouting at him.

And, btw, Alex Beresford - Wales is pronounced Wayles not Wells!

Grannynannywanny

I heard a BBC weather presenter refer several times to the shumid weather during the week.

That is my pet hate.