Ts

that jai, i presume same as j'eye, sounds either very rustic or very posh.
i was confused by a french teacher who was irish, in england, as she spelt out certain words;
until i realised she pronounced the letter R as or.
i thought french has a lot of alternative spellings . . .

When we were having spelling lessons at school, one teacher said 'jai' instead of 'jay' for the letter J. I don't think I have heard it since then, in all of 75 years.

I lived near Luton for awhile. As some of you know, the area was famous for its straw, which is why there were hat factories there. A huge cottage industry was plaiting straw, but it's a particular skill, and the best way of managing it was to hold the end of the plait in the mouth, so the saliva kept it moist and manageable. The glottal stop is especially strong in that area - try saying 't' with your mouth full of straw!

kircubbin2000

A common nickname for Hugh is Shooey.

Who remembers Shughie McFee?

Or Shug in Scotland (Gaelic). kircubbin

A common nickname for Hugh is Shooey.

One of our local politicians has posted 'myself and my party support etc....'

merlotgran

Kate1949

Oh yes the 'sh' thing. Carol Vorderman describes things as 'shooj' instead of huge.

A lot of presenters can’t pronounce huge. If it’s not shooge it’s phewje.

Drives me mad

A BiL whose name is Hugh, spends a lot of time in France - the locals have never been able to get their tongues around his name - he’s generally known as Monsieur Yoog. 😂
(Not that I’m saying they ought to be able to, just in case anyone thinks that’s what I mean.)

I had to take a young girls details over the phone, she said her name was Kayee, I naively wrote it down as Kayee.

When I actually met her in person and she had to put a signature next to her name she was so cross as it was Katy😬.

It's funny, I hadn't really noticed before, but watched a good video by Dr. Geoff Lindsey on youtube - Why Some People say SHTRONG (the CHRUTH). It is illuminating.

He uses Michelle Obama as an example. I had not realized that she did this until pointed out, so it's not necessarily a British thing.

But the missing T's really annoy me!

Crate instead of create

Blinko

Isn't it all about trying to sound 'down wiv da kids'? Street cred and all that nonsense.

Yes, as in your post and the O/P

It gets called "Mockney" as in mock cockney not just "down wid de yoof" but also "I'm not posh I talk like ordinary people".

That really annoys as its perfectly obvious what they're trying to do.

I can put up with glo-all stops etc better than with sins of syntax.
One that gets to me, and it's so common, is "between you and I" or "he gave it to my husband and I". Prepositions are followed by accusative pronouns in English!

kircubbin2000

Who or what has 'laid ' you in bed Abitbarmy?

now this is beginning to sound like MN !
ahem, that's a very personal question.

Sorry yes it should have read lying in bed ( I think!)

Who or what has 'laid ' you in bed Abitbarmy?

I went to elocution lessons when I was small which I found fun but I don't think many young people attend such groups these days - if they even exist at all. It's helped me a lot though throughout my various careers - including public speaking.

What really annoys me is Alexander Armstrong talking of Joggraphy.

German pronunciation has sh before t and p
Student, Spass, etc.
Maybe English is going that way.

welbeck

ie, too much lying around leads to heaviness.
maybe.

😀

MiniMoon

Argh! Amol Rajan just called H haitch.
I think I'll write to the BBC.

Yes.
I cringed.

It was like watching University Challenge speeded up - I was exhausted at the end of it!

So now I’m laid in bed making all these weird sh sounds and saying words out loud after reading your link Meryl!

MiniMoon when you write to the BBC please could you ask for the weather person not to say ‘The remernants’ of a storm it is remnants! I shout at the tv when slovenly language is used.

Argh! Amol Rajan just called H haitch.
I think I'll write to the BBC.

Glottal stops don’t seem to be part of English Lessons today.