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Sur le Pong......

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Foxygloves Sat 22-Jul-23 18:36:47

Patronising or what OP?
FP makes a good (native speaker) point 👏👏

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Jul-23 18:27:47

MaizieD

^I'm not sure there is a correct way to pronounce foreign words ^

Isn't the correct way to pronounce foreign words the way that the foreigner whose words they are pronounce them? hmm

Well, in this country or if I was reading the news in the UK I'd pronounce Paris Parriss.
If in France, I'd pronounce it Paree.

We've all learnt how to pronounce Kyiv now!
Haven't we?

Not like the chicken dish.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 22-Jul-23 17:57:54

My understanding of the pronunciation too Witzend, but I have no special knowledge. ‘Duh’ just doesn’t sound right to me and it’s not what I would say.

Witzend Sat 22-Jul-23 17:53:23

I’ve always heard it pronounced Dvorzhak - the ‘d’ pronounced and the ‘zh’ like the ‘s’ in leisure. That’s how I say it, too.
I’m not sure why you’d not pronounce the ‘d’.

I did once study the Czech language for a year, but aeons ago and I’ve forgotten just about all of it, except the word for butcher, which begins with an ‘r’ pronounced like the R in Dvorak.

Freya5 Sat 22-Jul-23 17:46:12

Should read mis pronouncing, oh dear.

Freya5 Sat 22-Jul-23 17:45:35

CountessFosco

If Elizabeth Alker on Saturday mornings mispronounces yet another foreign word or name, we shall throw the radio out the window. Not content with Duh-voor-jack, this morning's effort elicited Sur le Pong d'Avignong.

Oh what a shame,news reader pronouncing an unusual name. 1st world problems, and waste of a good radio.

Riverwalk Sat 22-Jul-23 17:41:12

Seems you're wrong!

The D is there in this entertaining piece...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fRu6zAIbAo

MaizieD Sat 22-Jul-23 17:38:43

I'm not sure there is a correct way to pronounce foreign words

Isn't the correct way to pronounce foreign words the way that the foreigner whose words they are pronounce them? hmm

CountessFosco Sat 22-Jul-23 17:26:04

Riverwalk

Well how do you pronounce Dvorak?

I'm not sure there is a correct way to pronounce foreign words - would you say 'Paree' or 'Mosc-vah'?

Well, this is name, not a place such as Par-ee etc.
We would say "Vourjzac" certainly without the D
But perhaps any Czech speakers might confirm?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 22-Jul-23 17:25:04

There’s a Sky newsreader who couldn’t pronounce President Hollande’s surname. She always, always sounded the H. I couldn’t understand why she was never taught the correct pronunciation.

ixion Sat 22-Jul-23 17:11:50

Channel 4 newsreader a while back informed us that strikes were heading for Amiens A-means.

Fleurpepper Sat 22-Jul-23 17:01:36

Ah- perhaps she learnt her French in Marseilles or Toulouse - where they put 'g' at the end of most words.

Riverwalk Sat 22-Jul-23 17:01:28

Well how do you pronounce Dvorak?

I'm not sure there is a correct way to pronounce foreign words - would you say 'Paree' or 'Mosc-vah'?

CountessFosco Sat 22-Jul-23 16:47:59

If Elizabeth Alker on Saturday mornings mispronounces yet another foreign word or name, we shall throw the radio out the window. Not content with Duh-voor-jack, this morning's effort elicited Sur le Pong d'Avignong.