Go get, go see, go visit, etc.

I'm just home from a month in NZ. There's no hope I'm afraid.
DGS aged 11 asked me if we should grab a sandwich
I said nothing 😒

I don’t like gotten, a word my SInL often uses. However, according to previous threads, it’s actually an English word, first used in 1535. Both Chaucer and Shakespeare (and others) wrote it, before it fell into disuse.
Still grates on me.

I'm OK with a few Americanisms.....not many though. One which I hate more than any other is......

Gotten 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Out of interest plus a strong conviction that go + bare infinitive is nothing new in the English language, I googled the words "go seek thy fortune".
Lo and behold, Shakespeare used those very words in Troilus and Cressida. .

Language does evolve but maybe not in a good way.

Today I sent a quick message to MrB to remind him about something. Swipe typing on a phone, I used "go see" rather than "go to see". If I had been speaking I would have said "go to see".

I concluded that the phenomenon was probably caused by (speed) text messaging.

Language evolves.

JackyB

I am just so delighted that someone has found a new topic for Pedants' corner where threads normally revert to the same old, same old peeves by post 10.

Go figure!

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Go for it!

I am just so delighted that someone has found a new topic for Pedants' corner where threads normally revert to the same old, same old peeves by post 10.

Go figure!

Oldnproud, you are right. I learnt English from the age of 10. We were taught that "be going to" is used to express intention or an imminent event= I think it's going to rain/I am going to play tennis/going to go to the cinema".
"Going to go" is grammatically correct.

Irritates me too. here they miss out a word to e.g.' going Nottingham, going Leicester.

I think you can put almost any infinitive you want after 'going' when talking about intentions or decisions for the future, sodapop, even 'to go' or 'to come'.

I get your point about it seeming, on the face of it, to be saying the same thing twice, but I think its use is perfectly acceptable in this particular structure. Each to their own, though. 🙂

It just seems like saying the same thing twice Oldnproud. Why not say I'm going for a walk. Didn't think you could go to go.

This has got me thinking Witzend.
I will take more notice as I am guilty of saying i.e. “go get me a broom please” to DH,
although I would not say “going walk” but “going for a walk”.
Language is interesting - and yes, sometimes annoying.

sodapop

Seems a lazy way of speaking I think Witzend

I have heard also " I'm going a walk" but in Yorkshire not Warwickshire. Also dislike "I'm going to go for a walk"

To me, "I'm going to go for a walk" and similar sentences are a standard way of expressing your intended plans. That particular structure had been taught to learners of English as a foreign or second language for as many years as i can remember. Am I missing something 😕?

My SinL in Cheshire tells me her sons are ‘going golf’. She’s from Durham, so she must’ve picked it up down there. It sounds unfinished.

I can’t bear it. With all due respect to our American friends, this usage has come over from the USA via TV and films. I find it grating even in this context but obviously people are allowed to use their own version of the English language in their own country. It is when it comes here that it becomes much more irritating.

MaizieD

TBH, I don't see anything wrong with 'go to', there's nothing missing from it as there is in the other examples (go and get, go to see, go to visit etc).

OTOH

"This is the solution we should go to in order to solve the problem" "This is the 'go to' solution"

Neither of these sentences are very pretty, but I can't see that they are incorrect.

I agree about the other examples.

To me the first sentence is wrong because you cannot go to an abstract concept such as a solution, only to a person or place!

And "the go to solution" is even worse, as in this phrase an infinitve "go" followed by the preposition "to" are being used as an adjectival phrase.

What is wrong with saying, as I at least was taught, "the obvious solution" or "the most useful solution"?

It annoys me too.

I started school in 1956 and in Scotland then it was drilled into us that we were never to use the verb "to get" if there were suitable alternatives.

I shudder to think what my teachers and my father would have said if I said "go get", "go find", or "go write" etc.

My MIL used to say things like 'I got it a present' - her MT was Afrikaans though.

I'm going on a walk.

No idea where this is from as I've lived all over the place.

I tend to like idiomatic language even if it's technically not quite right for pedants. Also, there's a big difference, in my mind, between formal written language and casual spoken language.

Seems a lazy way of speaking I think Witzend

I have heard also " I'm going a walk" but in Yorkshire not Warwickshire. Also dislike "I'm going to go for a walk"

I don’t like it either.

In the Midlands 'going + noun'- I'm going doctor's today.

But no, does not irritate me at all. I love language/s, warts and all.

I've spent my whole life saying I'm "going a walk". (Not for a walk).As did my whole family .Didn't realise it was strange until I moved out of Warwickshire

Germanshepherdsmum

An American import I think. I can’t stand it either.

I don’t mind it from Americans - it’s just from Brits that it sets my teeth on edge!