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Idioms people don't understand

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lizzypopbottle Wed 07-Feb-24 08:39:10

I've just seen pedantry described as knit picking but the one that always makes me smile is 'bare with me'! It's an invitation I'm not likely to accept!
(I know that anti-virus (aka autocorrect šŸ¤”) will make nonsense of anything I type, if I don't check before I press the send button!)

Baggs Thu 08-Feb-24 10:28:39

Blossoming

ā€˜Restbite’ instead of respite.

I like the idea of a restbite, especially if it involves one of those delicious cookies at Cairn Lodge or Tebay services.

Purplepixie Thu 08-Feb-24 10:33:01

I hate it when people say ā€œare you jokingā€. Why the hell would I be joking? I have just informed you my cat has died!

Also one of my friends always says chimbley instead of chimney and don’t get me started on bath and Barth!

Marydoll Thu 08-Feb-24 10:41:26

As a confirmed pedant and someone one who is highly qualified in working with those who have dyslexia, including my own daughter, I can assure you I have never mocked anyone who has dyslexia.

This is was I am sure, intended to be a lighthearted thread.

Marydoll Thu 08-Feb-24 10:42:43

Oops, should I previewed, then again I have dyslexic tendencies too, but I can laugh at my errors.

Baggs Thu 08-Feb-24 10:45:30

Some of my older relatives (Yorkshire folk) always said chimbley. I think we forget how different the many dialects were that used to be extremely common.

Also, the whole point of idiom, surely, is that it can be misinterpreted. Without it necessarily having been invented to catch poeple out, it is 'particular' in whatever language it arises and is used in – particular in the sense that aliens (non-locals) will take a while to catch on to its subtlety. And some never will, as this thread illustrates.

Baggs Thu 08-Feb-24 10:46:21

*people

Oldnproud Thu 08-Feb-24 11:02:14

Please, everyone, stop repeating 'power of eternity' - a moment ago, I suddenly couldn't remember the correct version, even though I say it regularly. I am in grave danger of making a complete fool of myself if I can't get 'eternity' out of my head again very soon! 😁

Doodledog Thu 08-Feb-24 11:03:44

My favourite is reaper cushions grin

MadeInYorkshire Thu 08-Feb-24 11:10:51

lizzypopbottle

I've just seen pedantry described as knit picking but the one that always makes me smile is 'bare with me'! It's an invitation I'm not likely to accept!
(I know that anti-virus (aka autocorrect šŸ¤”) will make nonsense of anything I type, if I don't check before I press the send button!)

A friend and I are always on the look out for these on Facebook Marketplace. As always there are the 'chester draws' but the one that made me laugh the most was this one ...

yogitree Thu 08-Feb-24 11:20:47

Auntieflo

I have just read on the local Next Door forum, an electrician saying "it's all a process of illumination"? when advising on how to check the usage of a smart meter.
I think he meant elimination. Made me smile though.

Auntiflo, Don't you think he meant it 'tongue in cheek' or was he not 'educated' enough (as an electrician) to understand what he was stating? As a Sparky, he could have been making a clever/humorous marketing comment perhaps.

Pittcity Thu 08-Feb-24 14:00:12

Both DH and DD2 are diagnosed dyslexics.
I added to this thread light heartedly.

Caleo Thu 08-Feb-24 14:11:04

People who can't spell and people who use cliches are more often than not the same people.

Caleo Thu 08-Feb-24 14:15:31

Marydoll, when I wrote the above I had forgotten about dyslexia. iI would never intentionally do so especially as I have recently recovered from an ischaemic stroke and lost all language for a few days.

Caleo Thu 08-Feb-24 14:16:08

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Marydoll Thu 08-Feb-24 16:03:15

Caleo

Marydoll, when I wrote the above I had forgotten about dyslexia. iI would never intentionally do so especially as I have recently recovered from an ischaemic stroke and lost all language for a few days.

I do hope you are feeling a bit better.

I taught in a school where pupils who struggled with language were dismissed as not very bright. The management team were stuck in the dark ages.
It was when I started looking for ways to help, I became hooked on helping these pupils over come their challenges.
It was only then, I realised that my very bright daughter was dyslexic, but very good at covering up. I was mortified.

However, all medical and educational issues aside, I do find malapropisms amusing.
I am on a medication, which is for me is difficult to pronounce, despite having a languages degree, so I just shorten it! My consultant finds it amusing and I know he is not mocking me.

MadeInYorkshire Thu 08-Feb-24 18:40:24

NotSpaghetti

My father called the Co-op the Cworp. It was in jest but harked back to his South Wales roots.
I can hear him saying it now.. 🧔

Yes, it was always known as the 'Corp' in Yorkshire - ham sandwiches at the Corp after a funeral!

Also used 'chimbleys' and M&S has always been known as Marks and Spensives since my very young daughter sat down in town one day and said very stroppily, 'no more Marks and Spensives'!

My now very aged aunt had a 'lady that did' and bless her she was a hoot but unknowingly so. She used to say things like Quality Cast Lawnmowers, Priory Place was known as Priority Place, and when my aunt once went abroad to Brazil she asked what religion was there - mainly Catholics says my aunt, like in Italy - the reply being 'oh I didn't know there were any Catholics there'. Bless her that woman worked looking after my gran until she was in her 80's and used to take 2 buses to get to her, she was remarkable, but never had an education.

HowVeryDareYou2 Thu 08-Feb-24 18:42:49

Doodledog

My favourite is reaper cushions grin

Brilliant grin

Allsorts Thu 08-Feb-24 18:46:43

I said rasberry and not raspberry for years.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 08-Feb-24 18:49:48

I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone pronounce the ā€˜p’ in raspberry.

MissAdventure Thu 08-Feb-24 18:51:55

I just tried, and I can't say it with the p and b each pronounced separately.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 08-Feb-24 18:53:15

I think it would sound rather odd.

Rosie51 Thu 08-Feb-24 18:53:30

Doodledog

My favourite is reaper cushions grin

I had to say that aloud 3 or 4 times before I cottoned on grin

Witzend Thu 08-Feb-24 18:54:00

Sparklefizz

I remember reading a sign out loud in Woolworths when I was a child, saying "Thieves will be prose cutted" and my Mum laughing and explaining it was "prosecuted". I was only 6 though... but the thing is, if you have only ever read a word and never heard it pronounced, the English language is confusing, eg. hyperbole (hy-PER-bo-lee) but hypocrite (HIP-o-crit)

I do remember seeing signs in M&S and wondering what on earth linger-y was.

Witzend Thu 08-Feb-24 18:57:41

Blossoming

ā€˜Restbite’ instead of respite.

I used to see that a lot on a forum for carers of people with dementia. But even this arch-pedant couldn’t get too wound up - the poor things were desperate for a ā€˜bite’ of ā€˜rest’.

Daddima Thu 08-Feb-24 19:03:44

Gin

I remember my Italian friend dramatically covering her face with her beautifully manicured hands and crying ā€˜I am so ash-amed’ (ashamed) and wondering why I giggled. Ever after I have been at times ash-amed!

Do any of you have mispronounced words as family favourites used for ever and a day? ā€˜Flutterbys and parcarks are favourites with the flower anniemoan (anenome) from my childhood but still used.

My friend was horrified when she realised she had used her family’s pronunciation of ā€˜canayps’ for canapĆ©s when talking to her husband’s boss at a work ā€˜do’!

My auntie mangled many words and idioms, talking about someone being an ā€˜ignorant ramus’ and another being an ā€˜escape goat’.