How does a 'lived experience' differ from an 'experience'?

*pandapatch, with due respect. I would say that you too had an experience of schizophrenia, but the experience of a carer/parent, while your sons experience was of someone with the illness.

In my 'lived experience' it's simply another example of how language use changes and flows, sometimes sayings bubble up for a time then are gone again.

nightowl

I see your point Baggs but I also agree with Louisa in that I think it has a meaning in a specific context. For example, when advertising for social work panel members, it often states something along the lines ‘professionals from different backgrounds such as medical, education, social work and those with lived experience such as care leavers. It doesn’t imply that their experience is any more valuable, but that it is as valuable, which hasn’t always been acknowledged. You could say personal rather than lived experience but either way, I think it’s an overdue inclusion of the people services usually affect.

Anyway I’ll stop waffling now.

I'm with nightowl on this.
My son had schizophrenia I have personal experience schizophrenia through living with my son, but he had lived experience of it.
It is jargon I suppose, but generally recognised, especially within health and social care
At least that's how I see it

Surely if I have an experience, then it is an experience I am presne t at and feel, touch, hear etc etc.

Personally I do not see how you can possibly have an experience, that you are not present at. Someone describing an experience they have had to you, is not an experience for you, it is hearing about an experience someone else has had.

This morning I had a hot bath. It was a pleasant experience and I was alive while I had it. is that an experience or a living experience?

A lived experience is presumably one that the person in question has personally lived through, whereas an experience could well be something we only had heard about from the person who actually lived through it.

Personally, I find "lived experience" redundant, as "personal experience" as opposed to "experience" covers my distinction between types of experience.

Baggs

Saying that one did a Masters dissertation on the experience(s) of a specific group of patients would mean exactly the same thing, which illustrates the point that prefixing experience with "lived" is unnecessary. I think such terms have turned into jargon/fashion-speak perhaps in the hope of making them seem to mean more than they do.

I guess its to differentiate between a one off experience or something that's occurred over a period of time...but yes its all jargon.....every essay I've written....every power point I've put together.....every training session I've ever given....its all jargon or the phrase of the moment .....I work for the nhs...I've heard them all...and thats whats expected....and that pays my bills 🤷‍♀️

I see your point Baggs but I also agree with Louisa in that I think it has a meaning in a specific context. For example, when advertising for social work panel members, it often states something along the lines ‘professionals from different backgrounds such as medical, education, social work and those with lived experience such as care leavers. It doesn’t imply that their experience is any more valuable, but that it is as valuable, which hasn’t always been acknowledged. You could say personal rather than lived experience but either way, I think it’s an overdue inclusion of the people services usually affect.

Anyway I’ll stop waffling now.

It dies not mean anything, just an unnecessary American expression from Meghan Markle and her ilk.

Sorry for your loss, Monica.
I'm with Baggs on this one.!!

Afraid I've always thought that lived experience and my truth were Meghan-Markle-isms. Anyway, I agree with Baggs that lived and my are superfluous.

I suppose feeling frightened after hearing of a frightening event could be called a second-hand experience but I think that's beside the point of the thread.

Sorry, MOnica, about the death of your friend.

Saying that one did a Masters dissertation on the experience(s) of a specific group of patients would mean exactly the same thing, which illustrates the point that prefixing experience with "lived" is unnecessary. I think such terms have turned into jargon/fashion-speak perhaps in the hope of making them seem to mean more than they do.

Its often a term related to research....I did a research project for my Masters dissertation about the lived experiences of a specific group of patients

I have issues with the expression "a way of life". We were farmers and often heard that it didn't matter if we weren't paid well because "farming isn't a job, it's a way of life".
My argument is that everybody has a "way of life" - good, bad, rich or poor. The way they live their life is their "way of life"!

I did not live my daughter's death but her illness and death are among my (lived) experiences insofar as I saw them happening. I wouldn't have had those experiences had I not been alive, so I suggest all experiences are lived.

I'm also 'living' the experience of the grief associated with those experiences mentioned above.

I actually think the term "lived experience" is sometimes used as a weapon to make whosoever's experience 'count' for more than someone else's. I class the expression in the same category as ones like "my truth". My truth, his truth, their truth, etc are all simply truth or not. Truth doesn't change according to who is experiencing it.

Condolences on the death of your friend, M0n.

I suppose going to Alton Towers would be an experience. Living with depression is lived experience.

Sorry about the loss of a much loved friend.

I'm sorry for your loss. After death we have to entrust everything to the living.
I recall a song from years ago with the lines, 'Those who must remain go on living just the same.'