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Aye or Uh

(47 Posts)
FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 31-May-25 16:00:45

I’ve always said ‘gar-arje’
I was brought up in Old Trafford. I’m nowhere near ‘posh’ 😁

welbeck Sat 31-May-25 15:50:33

I was also puzzled by the OP as I hear aye as in the ayes to left the noes to the right
And in hymns for aye.
Meaning for ever.
I now realise you mean the name of the letter A
As distinct from its usual sound
In a word like bat flat cat hat.

welbeck Sat 31-May-25 15:44:19

Garidge
Is what I wrote as garidge is what I heard.
Let's hope phone doesn't presume to change it again.

welbeck Sat 31-May-25 15:41:47

When I was little I'd never heard of anything except garage.
When I was about 9 or 10 and heard the affected ga raaje I was quite flummoxed.
They were the same people who When speaking to my parent would say
Mrs Digby would like a word.
I stared at him wondering why he didn't say Edith or my wife...
Wish I could go back in time and put them in their place.
As I now realise it was pure snobbishness.

Etoile2701 Sat 31-May-25 15:37:01

I wondered that too.

Etoile2701 Sat 31-May-25 15:36:00

Me too.

Etoile2701 Sat 31-May-25 15:35:30

Do you mean aye like the Scottish way of saying yes? If so, no I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed a lot of people on TV saying haitch rather than aitch.

AuntieE Sat 31-May-25 15:32:08

I believe that American pronunciation does not distinguish between a being said as it is in the word hay or say, for emphasis and said as it would be at the start of "about" in ordinary speech, and that this is why more and more British users of the language are now using the "ay" sound all the time.

singingnutty Sat 31-May-25 15:02:55

Yes I have noticed this and it jars but it’s now almost the norm so probably we won’t bother about it in a bit. What I would really like is for all the presenters and reporters etc. to pronounce Farage to rhyme with ‘garage’ as in ‘garidge’. I would be so pleased!

RobertaDanversWalker Sat 31-May-25 14:35:57

When you say they are using "aye" instead of "a", do you mean pronouncing it like "eye", or like the "a" in "cake"?

grandMattie Sat 31-May-25 14:15:13

All of the above..
+ sec tary, draw(er), and using a plural for collective nouns (the government are..,the football team are… etc.!

mabon1 Sat 31-May-25 14:15:04

Nothing new there. At the grammar school we were taught to say "aye" and to distinguish between ""aye " and "an" where appropriate.

Wyllow3 Sat 31-May-25 14:14:42

The O/P example interested me as I tried repeating it at different speeds. It takes longer to say 'a" and I think generally reporting has "sped up" which gets in the way of proper diction.

cc Sat 31-May-25 14:11:47

I know that a lot of people use it, but "haitch" annoys me.

Magenta8 Sat 31-May-25 13:59:58

Sorry, indefinite article.

Magenta8 Sat 31-May-25 13:43:15

The use of the long a sound for the definite article instead of the neutral vowel sound is yet another Americanism.

gransruleok Sat 31-May-25 13:38:07

“Are” instead of “our” drives me nuts, where were those people educated?

BlueBelle Thu 29-May-25 19:58:32

I ve always said ha rass ment
It jars on my ears to hear it said Harris ment

eazybee Thu 29-May-25 19:25:11

it is...

eazybee Thu 29-May-25 19:24:22

I think it iss because they are reading from the autocue; adver/tise ment; con/trib/ute; mischieve i ous; harr ASS ment are ones which particularly annoy me.

Fatoldlady Thu 29-May-25 19:05:52

So many pronunciations have changed, and add in that it seems every presenter has to have a regional accent, and I often find myself wondering what on earth they've just said.

gillyknits Thu 29-May-25 18:59:29

Don’t know whether there has already been a thread on this but I haven’t found one.
Has anyone else noticed that newsreaders and presenters are now pronouncing “a” as “aye” instead of “uh” . For example “ The boy threw aye ball to aye girl” instead of “ a boy threw a ball to a girl”
Where has this come from and why?