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badly controlled huskies.

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Fennel Wed 15-Aug-18 19:36:37

There seems to be a fashion here (Tyneside) for young people to take on a husky, or 2. They're beautiful dogs.
Normally I'm not afraid of dogs, but there's a young man near us who has 2. He takes them out on leads but they're straining all the time and twice lunged at me, barking fiercely. They nearly pull him over.
Is there anything I can do about it? Apart from avoiding him.
Have the Police any powers?

Fennel Thu 23-Aug-18 19:18:11

I would have been upset too, Iam.
Just wanted to add, that the last few days I've seen a lot of people with greyhounds. Evidently the new fashion.
But a much more sensible choice. They usually adapt quite well to town living. And aren't known to be aggressive.

Iam64 Sun 19-Aug-18 19:04:35

OldMeg - I agree, we can't save all dogs or indeed all children or people in need or animals in need. We have to toughen up and do what we can I suppose.
Recently, we visited a theme park in Devon. It included a small animal zoo. There were small furry animals, feathered animals - all fine. They also had an enclosure with several of the most depressed wolves in the history of wolf kind. They lay together, ribs showing, they'd done that thing that captured people do, that is, lost the will to escape, to attack anybody. It was awful.
Not as bad though as the next large enclosure. It contained a male Lion, a 'small' breed. This beast walked the length of its enclosure endlessly. His mental health was absolutely compromised. I found myself, wickedly, feeling that if he attacked his keeper with a view to chasing the keeper, bringing the keeper down and eating him/her, I'd have cheered the Lion on. Shocking of me I know.
We wandered on, encouraging our toddlers to walk and see the penguins. We didn't reach the penguins because a small pool containing 3 seals was just around the corner. these beautiful creatures swam round round, round and round again a pool big enough for a few carp. It finished us all off and we went to see the rubber dinosaurs roar, again. Much less distressing.
Sorry folks. I went well of piste there

OldMeg Sun 19-Aug-18 08:17:49

A dog rescued, is a dog rescued. We can’t (?) save them all.

Anyone who has ever visited a Turkish zoo would be as horrified as I was to see the conditions of the caged dogs on display ?

Iam64 Sun 19-Aug-18 08:05:53

I understand the desire to help animals who are suffering wherever they are in the world. I accept the positive differences between dogs in shelters here and in other countries, eg Eastern Europe. I have friends who adopted dogs from Eastern and Southern Europe. It impacts on the number of dogs adopted from our own rescue centres. There, staffie crosses, bull dog breeds, husky types and old German Shepherds for example are over represented. I've heard many people say they don't want those breeds, so intend to adopt from abroad. I don't know the answer, of course I don't, just making a point without wishing to be critical of those who make different choices.

OldMeg Sun 19-Aug-18 07:29:36

Wish there was a ‘like’ button nanny2507

nanny2507 Sat 18-Aug-18 18:54:39

I have 3 dogs 1 x English rescue 1 x had from puppy and 1 x eastern European dog. What you have to realise is that having these dogs does not add to the problem. Over here (on the whole) dogs in rescue centres are fed, walked and cared for. In Romania a dog in a shelter will be starved, or beaten by staff until it dies or killed by other dogs it shares a cage with. By getting my boy I saved him. They tend to be street dogs living in packs so they are socialised with other dogs but not with humans.

OldMeg Sat 18-Aug-18 07:50:34

ludzoh your last sentence also resonates with me. They ask so little and give so much. Unconditionally.

sodapop Sat 18-Aug-18 06:52:28

Your last paragraph resonates with me ludzoh so much pleasure from my dogs. I do appreciate that others do not have the the same feelings toward animals.

luzdoh Fri 17-Aug-18 19:11:58

Fennel I know what you mean, I'm not afraid of dogs except there are too many uncontrolled and dangerous ones about! I will unashamedly say I am afraid of them! I do not take my very small dogs out in public. Fortunately my garden is big and they have a lot of fun there. But I got too fed up with the dangerous dogs off leads who bounded up to my tiny dogs and began to pulverise them, often while their owner just laughed, or mostly when there was no owner to be seen. I would pick up my dog and then the big dog would attack both me and my little dog, even when I was on my disability scooter.
So I don't take them out. Too dangerous because the human beings can't, won't and don't control their big dogs.
GabriellaG It's simple what I get from my dogs - unconditional love! I know they like me to feed them... but honestly, they are so loyal, loving, funny, adorable, individual, clever, devoted, and just such wonderful company. I love them so much!

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 18:11:52

I'll have a look for that luzdoh thanks.
As I said in the OP I'm not afraid of dogs, we've had dogs ourselves. But some owners don't know what they've taken on. And I know with any dog there's a potential for attack.

luzdoh Fri 17-Aug-18 18:07:53

Craftycat How I agree!! Moreover, there should be an exam to ensure the owner understands the needs of the animal.
It should apply to some farmers too- usually small-holders not actual farmers. I was horrified by a man who thought it was funny that he was going to shoot his "teenage" stag because it was fighting the breeding stag in his herd of deer which he bred for the table. The ignorant, thick-skinned, unfeeling and disgusting man did not even know the basics of keeping a herd of deer in a confined field. Of course, as soon as the young male became reasonably big, the two males had to fight till one gave way and the other could prove he was the boss of the herd. But when he gives way, the subservient one runs away. In a field with a big fence, and this was a small field at that, he cannot run away. So the principal deer was still attacking him and he had to fight. It was cruelty of the highest order and this ignorant hateful man thought it was funny. I cannot get over it. People upset me so much sometimes. How could such an ignorant and cruel man be allowed to have under his total control a whole herd of these beautiful, intelligent and sensitive creatures?

luzdoh Fri 17-Aug-18 17:56:20

sarahellenwhitney Crumbs! I'm really shocked! Can you report the Dog Wardens? Who is paying them? Yes, it's us, well the good old Council Tax Payer. So they tell you to go out and do their job for them! Disgusting!!

luzdoh Fri 17-Aug-18 17:51:38

sorry - it is possible to buy a dog deterrent

luzdoh Fri 17-Aug-18 17:50:46

HildaW I am totally with you. It is so distressing when a breed becomes a fashion and people start acquiring the dogs without the first idea of that dog's needs.
Fennel
It is possible to but a dog-deterrent which is harmless. I suggested one for my daughter years ago when she was training and was running in London where there were often street dogs many of which were the then fashionable Staffordshire bulldog type. It emits a high pitched sound too high for human hearing. A dog dislikes the sound. It is used to train dogs not to bark in many instances. It is not harmful. However it does not always work. But it may distract the dog enough to make it turn away. It cannot hurt the dog. There are many on Amazon, they all look the same but seem different in that some get very poor reviews and others seem ok. The one I tried seemed a bit flimsy but ok. The nearest I can find is: TILZ PET LED Ultrasonic dog repeller and trainer 3 in 1 anti-barking handheld dog training device Sale:£8.99 prime.
I experimented very briefly with my small mixed breed dogs and they did stop barking and looked at me. But they usually stop barking when I command them to anyway so I do not want to confuse them and did not try it again.
It may be worth trying something like this. I agree with responders who advise you ask the Dog-Warden or appropriate authority in your area for advice.
It is very distressing to see animals used as fashion accessories and more than upsetting to see dogs being raised incorrectly and in the wrong environment. If the dog becomes frustrated and aggressive, it is never the fault of the animal, but the responsibility of the owner to ensure that the dog is given the right conditions for a healthy and happy life.

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 16:10:17

Another good link, Northern Lass.

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 16:09:01

I'm a bit reluctant to take any action locally anyway because our estate is 'mixed' - there are a few dodgy characters. I wouldn't want to cross them.

sarahellenwhitney Fri 17-Aug-18 15:49:21

Fennel. Good luck with the dog warden as if yours is like my local one you will be wasting your time. I reported to the DW two adult Shar Pei that frequently escaped from their owners garden and wandered the streets. The response was' catch them' give us a call and we will pick them up. I doubt you will get a response once it is known they are on a lead and with their owner.

Northernlass Fri 17-Aug-18 15:36:49

This may be useful to you Fennel:

www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

Craftycat Fri 17-Aug-18 15:08:07

I have just had a thorough house check to enable me to take on 3 rescue cats.
I firmly believe everyone taking on an animal should be checked as should their homes. Bring back dog licenses & make them the sort that can be attached to a collar so they are visible.
One of our new cats was previously owned by someone who should never have another animal. He is now being spoiled rotten!

OldMeg Fri 17-Aug-18 14:33:22

Fennel microchipping is the new dog licence. It’s compulsory. And before anyone says who enforces it....the same could be said for the dog licence.

Gabrielle you’ve made a couple of sweeping generalisations there. And I have a crate (not a cage). I leave it open when I go out and I generally find one of the dogs in it when I return. They see it as their ‘den’ . The only time I lock it is when I have a new foster dog I need to leave alone for a while.

Yes, sadly you are correct that some pets are crated/left for far too long when owners have to work. I’d say about 75% of dogs we rehome it’s because their owners find they don’t have the time for them.

Doreen5 Fri 17-Aug-18 12:55:27

A black Labrador lunged at me the other day. The owner apologised and then put on its muzzle - a bit late methinks. All dogs (not just Huskies) seem to have the potential to be aggressive, so beware...!

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 11:45:21

Another idea - a return to obligatory dog licences?

Fennel Fri 17-Aug-18 11:44:41

Very interesting replies. I wish they had obligatory training classes here Grandtante.
I'll try to find out if there's a dog warden here. And maybe start some pressure, if I have the energy!
I'm just so sad for these beautiful animals with their stupid owners.

Jaycee5 Fri 17-Aug-18 11:17:11

Cold weather dogs are always happier in snow and these are dogs long bred for a particular purpose. I know that some people take them on and do go sledding with them but I do feel sorry for any who don't experience snow.
We had a St. Bernard in Canada and she would get really excited about 2 days before the snow came. It didn't matter how cool it was, it was the snow that excited her. She would go under the crawl space in the basement when it was hot so that she could sleep on cold concrete.
You could try to talk to your local dog warden if the council still has one and see if they have any advice. The poor dogs are frustrated but that is not much help if they worry you.
I was brought up in a very doggy house. My father was a police dog handler, we had boarding kennels for a few dogs and he gave dog training classes that I helped at so really immersed in dogs. Separating dog fights doesn't bother me - but dogs lunging or snapping at your ankles is not ok and it is sensible to react negatively to it. It is rude not to control dogs that do that.

GabriellaG Fri 17-Aug-18 11:13:57

I can't understand the pull to have a pet who needs training, has to obey commands, needs exercising on a lead, washing, brushing, worming, feeding, picking up their poop, insuring, in fact, a slave to it's owner. What is in it for the pet? No real freedom except in the case of working dogs. Most 'pets' don't get the exercise they need for their size and as for people who work and keep dogs in cages. Wow!! Would you keep a human caged?