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Worried about next door’s dogs.

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Jezra Wed 17-Nov-21 09:39:16

We live next door to a good neighbour in all ways except the way he looks after his dogs. He is out every week day on a 10 hour working shift and no-one comes to let the dogs out at all. Now that we are in winter, it is dark when the neighbour leaves for work and dark when he gets home so the dogs are getting no sunshine or exercise and it must be a long day for them. They are taken out for a slow walk n the park when the neighbour comes home but it doesn’t seem enough to me as his youngest dog is quite big and would need a run around I would think. The other one is old and slow. They are nice dogs and don’t bark all day or anything but the young one howls and cries a lot of the time and it breaks my heart listening to it. My DH will not entertain me contacting the RSPCA as he says it’s none of our business and doesn’t want to be on bad terms with the neighbour but I am concerned for the well-being of the dogs. As I say, the dogs don’t annoy us with their crying - it just upsets us listening to their sorrowful howls. What would you do? When the neighbour is at home he treats them well.

Iam64 Wed 17-Nov-21 20:43:33

My criticism of the rspca is based in several experiences where dogs were being abused and neglected. Inspectors either didn’t visit or did and concluded no concerns. One was a gsd living in a muddy garden with no shelter, food was thrown out, consisting of family scraps. The dog had its tail under its stomach, was kicked The children had been removed because of abuse and neglect.

Smileless2012 Wed 17-Nov-21 19:21:53

If you're worried contact the RSPCA your neighbour wont know it was you, you don't have to give them your name. If you don't they're unable to let you know what if anything was wrong and if any action needed to be take.

I did this about a neighbour several years ago. They never knew it was me and the dogs must have been taken off them as we never saw them again.

tickingbird Wed 17-Nov-21 19:14:18

Casdon. We have every right to criticise the RSPCA. I’m rather involved in animal welfare and I can assure you the RSPCA is one of the wealthiest charities and not above criticism. The small charities do so much more and with much less money.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Nov-21 17:26:18

I would value the dogs’ welfare above my relationship with the neighbour. They need someone to speak up for them. I wouldn’t hesitate to make the call.

MissAdventure Wed 17-Nov-21 17:22:43

I wouldn't care if he realised.
He has a duty to look after his animals properly.

If he is nice he will hopefully be ashamed enough to do something about it, like other pet owners have to.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 17-Nov-21 17:00:41

Hetty58

DiscoDancer1975, unless they are his only neighbours, how would he know which had complained?

The ones that have been offering to help? I’d put two and two together.

MissAdventure Wed 17-Nov-21 16:14:04

I also found the RSPCA unhelpful, as well as rude.

MissAdventure Wed 17-Nov-21 16:12:44

I wouldn't think twice.
I loathe irresponsible pet owners.

Jezra Wed 17-Nov-21 14:31:06

Thanks all.

Hetty58 Wed 17-Nov-21 14:24:55

DiscoDancer1975, unless they are his only neighbours, how would he know which had complained?

Hetty58 Wed 17-Nov-21 14:23:00

Animal cruelty is everone's business. You can contact your local council's Environmental Health department about a 'noise nuisance' and they will investigate, without revealing your identity.

I know that you're more worried about the dogs than the howling. Still, a visit might be a wake-up call and prompt him to make better arrangements.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 17-Nov-21 14:20:47

Maya1

Casdon, I wasn't critising the RSPCA. I was just giving an example of when l called them earlier this year. It would have meant me knocking at around 30 houses most of which were strangers too me. I thought that was ridiculous.
I realise all animal charities only have a certain amount of funds.
I agree with GSM though, it is worth a call to see if they will come out to give your neighbour advice, as he certainly needs it.

The problem here is...the neighbour would know his neighbours are contacting them in order for them to go round and ‘ advise’ him.

It’s just not worth it Jezra. It’s lovely that you care, but it may make things very difficult for you.

Maya1 Wed 17-Nov-21 14:10:29

Casdon, I wasn't critising the RSPCA. I was just giving an example of when l called them earlier this year. It would have meant me knocking at around 30 houses most of which were strangers too me. I thought that was ridiculous.
I realise all animal charities only have a certain amount of funds.
I agree with GSM though, it is worth a call to see if they will come out to give your neighbour advice, as he certainly needs it.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Nov-21 13:57:25

Similarly concerned…

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Nov-21 13:56:52

Maybe a visit from the RSPCA would result in him being good advice about the dogs. Personally I would make the call without telling anyone and to hell with whether the neighbour suspected me, the dogs’ welfare is more important. Unless you have another similarity concerned neighbour?

Casdon Wed 17-Nov-21 13:04:42

Please don’t criticise the RSPCA, it’s a charity, and doesn’t have the resources to follow up every contact, or the facilities to take envy animal who needs it into their care. It’s quite right that they make sure that those animals they are caring for are going to excellent homes. If we gave them more, I’m sure they would do more.

Maya1 Wed 17-Nov-21 12:05:12

I would feel sorry for them too Jezra. It's hard to know what to do. You have tried to help, he doesn't want it. It must be very distressing though. Why do people get animals and then leave them for so long.
The RSPSA won't do anything. I found a poor cat this summer in a bad way, they asked me to first knock at all the doors in my neighbourhood before they would come out. We took him/her to our local vets, they called them.

grandtanteJE65 Wed 17-Nov-21 11:53:54

There is nothing you can do here. You have already offered to let the dogs out during the day, and your neighbour has said no thank you.

You could mention quietly to him that the young dog howls quite a lot while he is at work if you haven't already done so, but that is really all you can do, and perhaps you shouldn't as your husband would obviously prefer you to do nothing.

tickingbird Wed 17-Nov-21 11:42:50

The RSPCA won’t do anything but if you try to adopt a dog from one of their shelters they won’t let you if you go out to work and leave the dog for more than a couple of hours. They’d rather put them down. I stopped giving to the RSPCA years ago.

Visgir1 Wed 17-Nov-21 11:36:03

My neighbour sadly had to go into Care due to her Dementia. Her absolutely shambles of a son was then in charge of her beloved Dog. The Dog was only about 3 years old lovely little chap.
My neighbours son failed to look after himself let alone that little Dog.
Poor thing barked all day, no one ever saw him take him for a walk. Left in the garden all weather's.

We were getting more concerned, but someone cracked before we did. Early one morning on my way out, I saw the local councils Dog warden van in his drive.
Never saw that Dog again.

His sister later told me, that someone complained, the Dog was given to someone who would care and love him.
Luckily the Mum never knew.

maddyone Wed 17-Nov-21 10:51:24

It’s a shame for the dogs, especially the younger one. Doggy Day Care would offer an alternative, or dog walkers are available who would give the dogs a good walk.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Nov-21 10:31:42

Would you be able to dog sit them in your home while he’s out if he would agree? I know that would be a big commitment. I feel for these poor creatures. Why do people have dogs and leave them alone like this, just have them for pleasure when they are at home?

Jezra Wed 17-Nov-21 10:05:52

Thanks everyone. IMO I don’t think they’re being abused. I just feel sorry for them. We have spoken to him to offer to take them out but he said no. We are at home all day and so we could but he keeps himself to himself and probably doesn’t want anyone going into his house.
I guess there isn’t anything more we can do.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 17-Nov-21 09:55:18

Your DH is right. They may be getting exercise that you don’t see. The last thing you need is to rock the boat with neighbours. Say nothing, unless it is absolutely clear they are being abused, which doesn’t sound like it here.

Casdon Wed 17-Nov-21 09:53:30

Why don’t you offer to pop round and let them out for him in the middle of the day when you’re at home? I wouldn’t leave my dog for 10 hours at a time, but if he treats them well otherwise it would make all the difference to them if they could go out for 5 minutes at lunchtime.