Precious lawn owners

You are rather rude.

Shit, not shot. Spellchecker!!

It isn't an onslaught, it is a lot of statements by individual people that they very much dislike having dog-shit on their property - even if the solid lump of it has been picked up by the dog's owner and disposed of responsibly because a smear of it is always left behind. If the area is hardstanding it can be washed down but not grass. Strong disinfectant doesn't disguise the smell to other dogs with their sensitive noses, so they will reuse that spot. Why do you think dogs often sniff around a spot just before defecating?

The other reason to avoid soiling private lawns (and at a minimum, play areas in parks!) is the health risk. Someone posted that only 120 cases of toxocara infestation a year in humans were recorded - but a quarter of humans were found to have specific toxocara antibodies - which means that they came into close enough contact for their bodies to react. Why would you want to risk the horrific results on children?

Most non-owners like dogs, and most dog-owners love their pets and take care to have them regulaly vaccinated and wormed, and trained for the dog's own health and happiness. However some forget that the dog is also interacting with the rest of the community. Parents have to consider this with their children, parents of furbabies are no different. If so many posters find dog shot so revolting and offensive, surely offended dog-owners can take that onboard?

The time to toilet train (indoors and out) is when the dog is a puppy and just learning what is acceptable. Once they have a pattern it is harder to retrain them. I am surprised that professional trainers don't publicise more the dangers and unpleasantness of random excrement.

Rosie51

valdavi

Thing is, my dog doesn't say to me " I need a poo" he just hunkers down.He would love to talk but - dogs don't. If he's in front of someone's house (drive /grass verge) I try to drag the poor thing away but that results in a trail along the pavement which is much harder to pick up completely & traces get on shoes / pushchair wheels. Worm dogs regularly with approved wormers, then if there are any traces they won't harm humans.

But presumably if your dog needs a poo when he's inside your house he doesn't just 'hunker down' and do it? Therefore he knows that limitation. How much training would it need to train him that he must go to the gutter or do it in his own garden? Do you really worm your dog every single month as mentioned in the link I think was posted by Elegran?

I always did Rosie51

valdavi

Thing is, my dog doesn't say to me " I need a poo" he just hunkers down.He would love to talk but - dogs don't. If he's in front of someone's house (drive /grass verge) I try to drag the poor thing away but that results in a trail along the pavement which is much harder to pick up completely & traces get on shoes / pushchair wheels. Worm dogs regularly with approved wormers, then if there are any traces they won't harm humans.

But presumably if your dog needs a poo when he's inside your house he doesn't just 'hunker down' and do it? Therefore he knows that limitation. How much training would it need to train him that he must go to the gutter or do it in his own garden? Do you really worm your dog every single month as mentioned in the link I think was posted by Elegran?

I can’t even bear it when dog owners let their dogs wee on the public verge beyond our front wall. Never mind poop on my front lawn!

Good grief!

MissAdventure

It's not an onslaught, surely?
Just people suggesting that responsible owners pick up their animals poo.

Hear hear!

It's not an onslaught, surely?
Just people suggesting that responsible owners pick up their animals poo.

What a bad tempered thread! I share many of the health concerns about Toxicara etc and pick up not only the family pooch's productions but others abandoned by inattentive owners along the walk way we use precisely because of these concerns. Our tiny village on a tiny island is plagued by drivers speeding erratically through from the ferry so perching in the gutter with poo bags, dog and clutching lead would be suicidal. Our pooch is a rescue and needs exercise to defecate but I will try and confine her poos to our small garden in future. Hers come in installments though so it is not an exact science! Well done OP for keeping your cool in the face of such an onslaught!

Thank you for the stats you posted Elegran which are quite shocking and bear repeating in case missed.

Toxocara-type eggs found in 86.6% of parks in U.K. & Ireland.
25% of people sero positive for specific anti-Toxocara antibodies.
AND dogs should be wormed monthly but many aren’t.

It is a great responsibility owning a dog, so perhaps owners should undergo compulsory training before applying for one 🤔

Elegran

Even if you were going to pick up that lump of poo, you would leave a smear of excrement behind. Reread Marydoll's post at 11:06 pm yesterday to see what that could contain and what it could do to a child who played on that grass, or someone who touched it while gardening.

It also tells your dog (or the next dog that walks past) that is a place where a poo has been, so it is where they will go to for THEIR next poo - which soon turns it into a doggy public toilet for every pooch in town.

Would you let a child do it? You are just as responsible for where a dog does its business as you are for a child. FGS train your dog to shit in the gutter, not on someone's front lawn. Your dog, your training.

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Thing is, my dog doesn't say to me " I need a poo" he just hunkers down.He would love to talk but - dogs don't. If he's in front of someone's house (drive /grass verge) I try to drag the poor thing away but that results in a trail along the pavement which is much harder to pick up completely & traces get on shoes / pushchair wheels. Worm dogs regularly with approved wormers, then if there are any traces they won't harm humans.

Whether it is privately owned or owned by the council that strip of grass is there to be a pleasant amenity for everybody not to be a toilet for your dog.

I am sick to the back teeth of picking up dog mess from the pavement in front of my house.
I say take your bloody dog home and let it make a mess outside of your own house.

I always pick up after my dog. I just wish cat owners would clear up the cat poo frequently left in my borders.

You are an ignorant dog owner. Another action by dog owners I can't abide is allowing male dogs to lift their leg and urinate on planting at the edge of private property. The urine damages planting and grass is also damaged by both male and female urine.

Most places that allow dogs have a special part of the restaurant or pub where dogs are allowed. We will be staying at several Hôtels soon, all of which have special rooms, and special eating areas, where dogs are allowed, and other rooms and other areas, where they are not. Our dog is clean, quiet, well-behaved, regularly vaccinated and wormed, and her paws are always cleaned before we enter any 'dog welcomed' area.

But still, at one Hôtel where 95% of the restaurant, Hôtel and bar area are NOT dog friendly- groups will choose to go and sit in the small 'dog friendly' area- and we will have no-where to go.

There are plenty of eating places which don't allow dogs. We don't eat out often, but when we're away in our motorhome we do from time to time, and on those occasions, we have no option but to take our dog with us. He lies quietly under the table and doesn't bother anyone. When we can, we choose places which have separate areas where dogs are allowed. Tomorrow, we're going to a lovely cafe where dogs aren't allowed in the main bit, but they have a separate garden room type of place called the 'dug oot' where dogs are allowed. Best of both worlds.

The thing is, there are a lot of people like me, who don't dislike dogs - but just don't want to own one. I've been happy to dogsit for my AC, and always picked up anything left when I took said dogs for a walk - but I really, really hate having dogs sniffing round me when I'm in a restaurant (& yes, I've watched people allowing their dogs to finish off leftovers from their plates, which completely put me off eating there..!). Where I live, there are lots of nice pubs that serve food - and ALL except one proudly advertise themselves as 'dog-friendly'... The one exception is Wetherspoons - so I can either eat at an establishment that I'm not keen on, or risk having dogs sniffing round me while I eat...!
Surely it's not unreasonable - especially in view of comments about what germs can be spread by dogs - to feel that at least one or two places should allow me to eat in peace (& safety) - is it..??

Many, if not all guide dogs for the blind are trained to poop on command. Whether by their owner as part of the training or before being allocated a home, I'm not sure. I read of an owner who had a bag at the ready for when the animal crouched down in command, usually at the same time of day. That seems sensible to me, the command, not necessarily having to collect as it's passed.

"Precious lawn owners" indeed! How rude!

Am I being rude by letting my dog poo where it might be private but you can't actually tell? - yes! - what can you have been thinking of?

*house, not louse 😄

😲 a bit harsh!

If the grass extends from her house to the pavement and the second 'strip' of grass is next to the road on what is called 'the verge' in the UK, then yes, the lawn in front of her louse is hers. It's called open plan and in some cases, owners aren't allowed to have fencing to separate it from the pavement. There is often a very small edging stone border, just the height of the grass.