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ftm420 Sun 15-Dec-24 22:17:47

Walking the dog this morning and he went to poo on a patch of grass in front of a house where the grass is not delineated but has a pavement running along the front, then another strip of grass next to the road. By coincidence, house owner with her dog came home and had a go at me for letting my dog poo on her lawn. I told her I was picking it all up (I'd already got the bag ready) and she stood and watched me, telling me I should move my dog to the other strip of grass and not use hers.

Am I right in thinking that if she lives next to a pavement, where the grass is not fenced off in any way, then I can't know whether the grass belongs to her or to the council.

Am I being rude by letting my dog poo where it might be private but you can't actually tell?

MissInterpreted Mon 16-Dec-24 18:21:38

Kate1949

I could never pick up a creature's poo in the street. I mentioned this once on GN and someone posted in reply 'I bet you changed your baby's nappies though.' Says a lot really.

I'd quite happily pick up any creature's poo over changing nappies!

Grunty Mon 16-Dec-24 18:07:34

I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.

When you've found any alcoholic, drug user or despotic crisp eater who's detritus causes pathogenic bacteria, Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, Yersinia and Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, give me a shout; I'll be faux outraged about that for you too.

BlueBelle Mon 16-Dec-24 17:55:36

I wouldn’t let a dog poo on grass at all I d take it to the gutter and pick up in my bag It will all stick on the grass even when picked up
So yes you were wrong and I hope you will train your dog to go on concrete where the pick-up can be so much cleaner.

This country has become over dog friendly they now outweigh humans in their needs /wants / treatment

Granmarderby10 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:55:24

I agree that people have a “right” to not like dogs. They perhaps should just say that then instead of all this faux indignation.
I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.

merlotgran Mon 16-Dec-24 17:52:56

They often poo and pee to mark territory so it doesn’t make any difference if they’ve just done one in the garden. They somehow manage to squeeze one out if they’re so inclined.

I also don’t think training them to go in the gutter is as easy as it sounds. Roads are not as quiet as they used to be and you can bet your life the dog will assume the position just as couple of cars are almost upon you.

Poo bags and common sense are the only answer.

Grunty Mon 16-Dec-24 17:47:08

Granmarderby10 you think that all those park dog walkers - and there are a lot of them, are thick and that their dogs don’t ever poop while out, even ones that visit the park at least twice a day? You are mistaken. Not entirely sure what you're trying to say here; but yes, based on what I've witnessed in my front garden and my local park, and some comments on this thread, I do think some dog owners are thick.

Yes, I've heard and seen dog waste bins. They're the foul smelling, overflowing receptacles that have plastic bags full of dog shit piled on top of them when the council has cut back it's services and no longer empties them. They have several overspill areas such as bushes, fence posts, even people's garden walls.

I actually love dogs Granmarderby10; it's their lazy, dirty and entitled owners that I don't like. The dogs are only as good as the human on the other end of their lead.

NotAGran55 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:44:28

ftm420 why don’t you encourage your dog to do it’s business in your own garden, rather than on ground you don’t own?

Kate1949 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:39:14

I could never pick up a creature's poo in the street. I mentioned this once on GN and someone posted in reply 'I bet you changed your baby's nappies though.' Says a lot really.

love0c Mon 16-Dec-24 17:39:08

Many newer style homes are open plan at the front. I do not have a dog but would never let it poo if I had any doubt at all if this was the case.

Allira Mon 16-Dec-24 17:35:05

Kate1949

People have a right not to like dogs.

They do.

I love most dogs.
I don't like irresponsible owners.

Allira Mon 16-Dec-24 17:33:40

I take it also you haven’t heard of dog waste bins where bagged poop can be disposed of. Often no need to carry it home

Yes, we were talking about this a few years ago after seeing dog poo in the park when there was a dog waste bin a few yards away.
Apparently one poor Council waste disposal man had to drive round in his van, emptying these bins and felt ill with the stench.

Kate1949 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:33:16

People have a right not to like dogs.

SueDonim Mon 16-Dec-24 17:29:01

Maybe it’s time for dogs to wear nappies when they’re out in public. Then owners could walk their dogs knowing that no one else will be inconvenienced by their pet.

I’m thinking back a few years ago to when my brother had an accident with a lawnmower. As a volunteer he mowed the grounds of a charitable gardens. The mower broke down and he tried to sort it out (he’s an experienced engineer). However, unknown to him a part of the mower was missing and it suddenly sprung into life, with his hand bearing the brunt.

He endured five hours of surgery to save his hand and now, the thought that his wounds could have been contaminated with dog shit makes me feel really ill. It really is antisocial, isn’t it?

Granmarderby10 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:25:37

So Grunty just to be clear, you think that all those park dog walkers - and there are a lot of them, are thick and that their dogs don’t ever poop while out, even ones that visit the park at least twice a day? You are mistaken. The majority of decent responsible people go equipped and just pick it up- just as the law requires.

I take it also you haven’t heard of dog waste bins where bagged poop can be disposed of. Often no need to carry it home …( this is in England by the way)

I also glean from your rather over the top and almost pantomime angry response, that you don’t like dogs or don’t like people who have them or possibly both?
AND further more that you hadn’t actually read or comprehended my posts at all but quoted from it just so you could have a good old rant.

Allira Mon 16-Dec-24 17:18:18

I think the dog dirt dangers whilest real are greatly exaggerated

No they're not.

I can't believe you think it's ok for owners to allow dogs to defecate in a children's play park.
I've seen it happen, though, when I've taken the children to play on the swings after school - dog poo all around.

And any public park is for the public to enjoy, not for a dogs' lavatory.

Freya5 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:14:56

Grunty

^my attitude is that since unruly dogs are a normal fact of life she 'd be better to get a fence than to have rows about dogs shitting on her lawn.^

Ah! So home owners should be prepared to spend £££ fencing off their gardens so that irresponsible, feckless dog owners aren't inconvenienced? And how does that work when many housing estates stipulate that the frontage must be kept open plan? And why is it someone else's job to do what dog owners are incapable of; keeping dog shit off their property? "Unruly" dogs are not a normal fact of life; they're a scourge of society. Their mess spreads disease, gets smeared all over shoes and pram wheels and then gets trailed through homes. It's not the home owner who should fence off their lawns; it's dog owners who should train their animals properly and take responsibility for them. And if you can't do that; don't have a dog.

Well said.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 16:56:50

Ah, we get those around here.
Also the ones who swing their empty poo bag on their hand, then slither away without filling it.

Granmarderby10 Mon 16-Dec-24 16:51:16

Dogs prefer grass and many of the poops on the street are the result of “an owner” begrudgingly dragging a desperate dog usually on three legs at speed along because the they’re not allowed to do it in the garden! These are the late night under-cover-of darkness offenders.

Rosie51 Mon 16-Dec-24 16:44:22

I do wonder if these dogs that have 'surprise spontaneous poos' also experience the same phenomenon in their living room or other areas of the house. If you can train your dog not to urinate or defecate in your house surely you can equally train them to perform these actions in designated areas such as the kerb?

MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 16:33:42

Astitchintime

Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up if it had been 'deposited' on a hard surface as apposed to grass?
I am not a dog owner so I have never had the 'pleasure' of picking up a warm dog turd but imagine it is cleaner and easier from tarmac or paving - just saying.

gringrin

Grunty Mon 16-Dec-24 16:15:56

As for children playing, it never stopped me playing as a child and there were very many more “free range” dogs about the streets in the 1960s

We did a lot of things in the 60s that we now know weren't a good idea. Most of us grew up with adults smoking in the house, driving without seat belts, lack of knowledge about how salmonella was dangerous, ignorance of sun damage etc. But 60 years on and we're better informed aren't we? And we know, as per Marydoll's post, precisely what diseases and harm dog shit does. It's vile.

Astitchintime Mon 16-Dec-24 16:13:30

Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up if it had been 'deposited' on a hard surface as apposed to grass?
I am not a dog owner so I have never had the 'pleasure' of picking up a warm dog turd but imagine it is cleaner and easier from tarmac or paving - just saying.

Grunty Mon 16-Dec-24 16:06:46

Well where else are people supposed to take their dogs?

Well, think about it.... why would you possibly consider that taking your dog to defecate, on an area of grass where children are playing, people are playing sports, kicking up the grass and rolling on the ground, is a good idea? Are all dog owners really this thick or are they just winding us up? On the off chance that they're really just thick; how about this: only allow your mutt to defecate in your own garden or backyard? That leaves only you--and your unfortunate neighbours-- to deal with the awful stench. And if you don't have a garden or backyard ideally you shouldn't even have a dog in this case, take it where humans are not expected to step in it, over it, see it or deal with it. Train your dog to crap in the gutter of the road, take bags with you, pick it up and TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR HOUSE.

I've always wondered what goes through the heads of inconsiderate dog owners. Some of the posts on this thread have answered that question; they're just not very bright.

Granmarderby10 Mon 16-Dec-24 16:02:33

A public park is a public park. Look around you, the parks are full of dog walkers from the crack of dawn until late at night.

Sometimes dog walkers outnumber children easily as the majority of kids having been encouraged to feel afraid of the great outdoors and the elements tend to prefer being indoors in the company of their computer game buddies.

People just need to get their heads around the idea of picking up after their pets -and use a torch if it is dark..yes.

As for children playing, it never stopped me playing as a child and there were very many more “free range” dogs about the streets in the 1960s -
I think the dog dirt dangers whilest real are greatly exaggerated, true it’s nasty to tread in but so is peoples sputum on the pavement, covid masks and surgical gloves, broken glass and all manner of other detritus.. somebody leaves it there.

Incidentally, I’m not responsible for any dog presently, but am very familiar with the considerations of owning a dog, and a dogs needs.

Allira Mon 16-Dec-24 15:28:12

Granmarderby10

Well where else are people supposed to take their dogs?🤗

Not to poo on a sports field or park where children are playing, people are picnicking.