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celebgran Tue 03-Mar-15 15:22:38

Will this be ok any ideas welcome smileless and yogagirl please chip in.

Smileless2012 Mon 06-Apr-15 16:11:07

No Celebgran I'm not gorging on chocolate but that's only because there isn't any in the housetbugrin. Well impressed with the number of Easter bunnies you've included in your posts, well donetbusmile.

I've been trying to get on here since Fridaytbushock yes it's true. I wanted to come on and wish you all a 'Happy Easter' but every time I tried to get on to Gransnet Forums I was plagued by adverts, warnings about viruses etc that I couldn't get to shut down so in the end did what I know you shouldn't ever do, but works anyway, I turned my laptop offtbublush.

Same thing happened on Saturday and yesterday and I was beginning to wonder if I had a gremlin, then I remembered that she would never dare show her face here again, so put it down to bad luck together with my being a technophobe of course.

Sorry you've been feeling poorly Celebgrantbusad, not a good way to get back to normal after your holiday.

Sorry that you've been feeling sad and lonely Yogagirltbusad, these holidays aren't easy are they, too many 'happy families' about. We've been busy pottering about in the garden, not that we can do any planting until we come back from Florida but all the fencing's been treated and the decking and we've got our 2 water features up and running together with the third one we bought yesterday. Yep, we love our water featurestbugrin.

I did think this morning though that if things were different they'd maybe had come for dinner yesterday and we'd have done a little Easter Egg hunt for our grand son but hey ho, such is life.

It was lovely here yesterday, warm and sunny so we thought we'd have a BBQ today, first one of the year, we love our BBQ's more than our water features, so anyway as expected, it's cloudy and cool, very cool so I thing we'll go out for tea instead.

Hope everyone's OK and that you've had a good Easter. Don't worry about your chocolate Celebgran it will keep but if you're going to give some to Yogagirl, I want some tootbugrintbugrin.

celebgran Mon 06-Apr-15 10:38:36

Oh yogagirl if we were t ill you could have nipped to Coast to see us!
Yes you can have my eggs tbugrin
Sorry you been lonely this Easter tbusad
Hope you feeling brighter today so much for you to focus on.

We sent card and money to little grand daughters stupid or what [tbuco fused] really we should get it back as never acknowledged hope mollie knows we have sent it addressed card to then girls but who knows.
Was shocked to see I sent £25 next voucher I. 2013 for mollie birthday never ever have thank you, what does that cost ? I really think we are stupid but I guess want mollie know we never gave up.

Sorry meant be cheering you up!

Gra gone work I have list jobs, got be careful we were so ill tbushock never been so violently sick it must been food poisoning but my client thurs the bedridden one had diaorreahea she offered for me to go but I felt sorry and helped change her nighty as carer wasn't due for ages. Also did her nails, am I an idiot. But with poor husband being so ill also reckon was fish.
Mmmmm

Better get off here, good hear from you yogagirl tbugrin are you proud of my tbuwink efforts here?

Rosie is In barking mood, we have had 4 wet beds stopped fingers crossed Friday day we became ill tbushock think she missed us bless and was different place, thought I did right as ladies home.
She has her vet check tomorrow.

Where is smileless gorging on the chocolate ?! Hope she ok
flowers for all of us missing family this Easter

Yogagirl Mon 06-Apr-15 08:12:48

tbusmile HAPPY EASTER tbusmile

It's so hard typing on this virtual keyboard, have to type with one finger tbushock
Well been busy up till today, really feeling sad, should be doing an Easter egg hunt with my GC, I would do it for my C too, even though they are adults tbublush but we would have such fun tbugrin and then a lovely Easter family dinner. My mum & dad have passed away & we would always spend Easter & Xmas together along with my C, we all used to be so close & happy, now just like brush weed rolling tbusad
My ND is away for the long weekend, I've spoken on the phone and with my sister too, but haven't seen one family member over the Easter holidays tbusad so really feeling it today tbusad All the happy memories of years gone by, where I would work really hard making everything lovely for Xmas & Easter, lovely home cooked dinners with everyone invited, to this today, just brush weed rolling :'(
Sorry to hear about your tummy bug Celebgran at least your home and it didn't happen whilst on your holiday and spoil it all. Can I have all your Easter eggs, as you can't eat them tbugrin. Wish you & hubby better flowers
Beat that smileless with tbugrin tbusmile
flowers & wine for all tbugrin tbusmile

loopylou Sun 05-Apr-15 18:13:35

Sunshine rather sporadic here but got plenty of weeding done, heaven knows where they come from.
Hopefully plenty of sunshine coming your way this week!
Take care.
sunshine

celebgran Sun 05-Apr-15 17:35:13

Agree! Helps with post cruise and week all inclusive cutbacks would rather not have had ordeal of violent sickness all night though !

Still sun shining here In frinton today and tho feeling below par we loads better and even pottered in garden.

Hope you having good Easter loop lou.

loopylou Sun 05-Apr-15 16:40:58

Not the nicest way to lose weight.........!

celebgran Sun 05-Apr-15 15:39:34

Thanks loopy Lou my waistline agrees!

loopylou Sun 05-Apr-15 15:27:34

Oh dear celebgran, not the best way to end your holidays.

Welcome back, the chocolate can keep tbusmile

celebgran Sun 05-Apr-15 14:32:08

Thread been very quiet! We getting over jet lag only to go down with sever sickness diarrohea oh hell fri night was exactly that both ill me first or course.

Slowly recoveringtbushock

tbuhmm no chocolate sadly may try cook light meal! Only water yesterday.

Hope smileless yogagirl and rest of ladies enjoying better health x

Smileless2012 Tue 31-Mar-15 20:28:58

Thank you loopyloutbusmileflowers

loopylou Tue 31-Mar-15 20:15:19

It must be so, so hard Smileless, and because I'm not in that situation, I can only hope that someday there will be reconciliations for all of you.
flowers

Smileless2012 Tue 31-Mar-15 19:46:02

Perhaps not loopylou, maybe the Daily Mail is taking steps to bring out in to the public forum this phenomena of children who are abandoning their parents. Wasn't it a journalist from this paper that requested volunteers to talk about the detrimental affects that this treatment by their children has had on their health?

She may not be looking for an end to this estrangement, I seem to remember in the interview printed on Saturday that she said she didn't know what she'd do if he suddenly appeared at her door; that she'd found happiness and hoped he was as happy as she was. Perhaps she simply wanted to speak publicly about their estrangement while she still could.

What she said about his husband was wrong but the last words he spoke to her were to say 'I hate you'tbushock. She says they were close until he came into her son's life; been there (but in our case it's a she, not a he), got the 'T' shirt and the emotional scars to prove it. It may make uncomfortable reading for some, but for those of us in the same predicament it's a little light shining in the darkness.

This has been going on for 7 years, she is 90 and time must be of the essence. He might pay her bills and have sent flowers for her 90th birthday to try and appease his own guilttbuhmm.

I love his music too and as you say jinglbellsfrocks'The Bitch is Back' was about himself, but to open a concert with a song he rarely performs at the same time the first installment of his mother's interview is publicised, well I'm not a believer in coincidences and certainly not in this one.

It would be nice if most children took a little time to consider their parents' happiness, even if they don't approve. Sadly, this isn't always the case.

loopylou Tue 31-Mar-15 18:31:52

Very true*jingl*, it's some years old too.
I love his music too, especially Rocket Man and Jailhouse Rock....

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 31-Mar-15 18:28:08

To be fair the song was originally about himself. The bitch is back

Oh I do love him though! I could listen to his music all day.

celebgran Tue 31-Mar-15 17:58:32

Maybe different in mirror then elton is hardly likely to want to advertise cutting his 90 year old mum out!!

To be fair she supported him all his life and most of us would find that difficult given eltons lifestyle etc. She has every right to tell her version of events but agree unlikely to end estrangement who knows may shame him.

"The bitch is back" gosh smileless he sunk to a low there!

loopylou Tue 31-Mar-15 17:44:40

Absolutely true jingl her comment '“To that I said to him, ‘And you think more of that f***ing thing you married than your own mother.” speaks volumes....(Daily Mirror)

All very sad, apparently she contacted the papers first....... I would have hoped that most mothers would consider their son's happiness first, even if you don't approve. She seems happy enough for him to pay all her bills....

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 31-Mar-15 17:29:47

It sounds as though his mum really loathes Furnish. She prefers the other bloke he was with before.

loopylou Tue 31-Mar-15 17:13:31

I presume somehow the whole purpose of the Daily Wail interviews is to garner support for Sheila and paint EJ in a very black light?

I do have personal experience of some of the more sensational Press and! IMO, they'll write (obviously) whatever's necessary to sell papers, and apologise later.

We don't know any more than what has been printed, as you say it's very complicated, but clearly these unedifying public articles are hardly going to result in an end to the estrangement.

It's the children I feel for, hopefully they're too young to know about it.

celebgran Tue 31-Mar-15 16:47:51

Rather at loss to understand loopy Lou maybe didn't read article ? No where did the poor lady and hate using your expression "slag" her son off.

Agree smileless it was lovely to hear that she wished him happiness.
So very sad that's all that can be said.

We saw elton perform last year he is still brilliant but he does not have much finesse ended concert very abruptly.

Smileless sorry seems be hardest word about sums it up.
It does seem Complicated apparently his mum is still good friends with his ex and that didn't suit.

I totally agree publicity for these sad estrangements is good thing.

Smileless2012 Tue 31-Mar-15 15:40:55

Welcome back Celebgrantbusmile It's so good to hear that the holiday has been good for you both, hopefully you've bought some of that lovelysunshineback for us all to share, I mean it is spring and almost Eastertbuhmm.

Well done janeainsworth I knew one of you clever ladies would be able to do a link to Elton John's mum's story. I couldn't even manage to try and fail on Saturday; wouldn't know where to begintbublush. Note to self, learn how to use my laptop properly.

From what I've read so far, she has a dignity not apparent in her son, I mean "The Bitch is Back"tbushock, she's your 90 year old mother Elton John who hopes you're as happy as she is; shame on you.

What is the answer? We have a 90 year old mother and grandmother whose been ignored, apart from her son's financial support which is nothing in comparison to his vast wealth, for 7 years and doesn't and probably never will know her only grand children. She's given a frank, not paid for and as far as we can tell, honest interview and is helping to bring in to the public domain this 'silent epidemic' of abandonment and betrayal and yet will be regarded by some as 'washing her dirty linen in public'.

He can always give his own dignified, without receiving a fee interview in response. Perhaps he could begin that with a title of another one of his many songs "Sorry Seems to be The Hardest Word".

Iam64 Tue 31-Mar-15 13:57:18

loopylou - I'm with you, rather unedifying, the whole thing. What my grannie would have called 'washing the dirty linen in public'

celebgran Tue 31-Mar-15 13:32:25

Well he supports her financially and 2 sides to everything. I read article yesterday and felt his mum was very dignified certainly not slagging him off.
Elton does have reputation for fall outs but agree at age 90 his mu does deserve some. Respect surely ? She blames his partner.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 31-Mar-15 10:56:06

I think it's sad. Of course, we don't know the woman's character, but Elton should have some compassion whatever. Reflects very badly on him.

loopylou Tue 31-Mar-15 10:48:31

Good grief, I suppose it sells papers but very sad that they have to slag each other off so publically, rather sickening IMO

janeainsworth Tue 31-Mar-15 09:49:25

It seems that Elton's mum booked an Elton look-alike to sing Don't go Breaking my Heart with Kiki Dee at her 90th birthday party
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3002360/Elton-John-s-estranged-mother-celebrates-90th-birthday-performances-lookalike-performer.html

Elton then retaliated by opening a concert with The Bitch is Back
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3017587/Sir-Elton-John-opens-Las-Vegas-Bitch-hours-estranged-mother-Sheila-shares-details-bitter-seen-year-feud.html

Here's more www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015303/Elton-John-hasn-t-spoken-seven-years.html

And more www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017370/I-did-help-Elton-succeed-didn-t-tell-granny-second-explosive-interview-Elton-John-s-mother-sacrifices-s-worried-grandsons-s-never-met.html

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