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I'm 71, should I get divorced, or stick it out?

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carosanto Mon 05-Oct-15 12:29:27

I've been married for 30 years to a depressive, who is also fairly high on the autistic spectrum. During the last 5 years he had severe drink problems, although I have supported him through this, and, with the help of AA, he has been dry for 5 months. Early days, but progress.

All through our married life he has totally disregarded out mutual welfare, and thought and done only for himself. OK we have discussed things, but my opinion always counted for nothing, even tho I am a fairly strong and assertive lady. He would also do stuff which, socially, would have me apologising for his behaviour. Something I refuse to do these days on the premise "it's your mess, deal with it". All this was OK when we were younger, I was stronger and far more resilient, but SOH and tolerance at his antics has run dry.

Recently he has done some truly awful stuff, leaving me financially out of pocket big time and causing a rift with friends which will be difficult to mend. None of my making...and incidentally emails/social media are poisonous, once it's out there it's out there, and this was his undoing.

I am at the end of my tether. He is truly Jekyll and Hyde, sweet and loving, and supportive then going off and doing things which have severe consequences of which he seems blithely oblivious.

He will not and has never accepted that anything is his fault. He blamed drink, stress, anti-depressants, the weather, the time of day, anything, and I have never once heard him say "this is all my doing". In short he never takes responsibility for any of the actions which have caused various trainwrecks in our lives. I love him dearly, but seriously, with this last episode feel I cannot cope any more. I'm 71, fit, active and fairly attractive, but life alone in old age without a partner who, when he is good is really lovely, feels an appalling prospect. It's just that I can't see any other way.

I booked a half hour appointment with a solicitor today, but really am in such a turmoil, still it can't hurt. Sorry to go on.

alchemillamollis Tue 20-Oct-15 01:08:03

My first instinct is that you should leave him, Carosanto. Would he look after you if you were ill? I'm guessing he would not.

Luckylegs9 Mon 19-Oct-15 16:40:05

One statement stands out. I love him dearly. That really says it all. If you love one another and have good times, is there no way you can get to a bit of common ground. Alone at 70 plus is not the way I thought I would end up, not to be recommended, but I had such a wonderful husband, I know I have been lucky and that love like that won't happen again. You still have the man you love although he does sound high maintenance, he must drive you to distraction sometimes and get you down, but would you be happier if you walked away? You only have one shot at life and I certainly wouldn't stop with any man if that bought me down and I didn't love him. Hope things really improve fir you both.

glammanana Sat 17-Oct-15 16:55:18

Lots of good advice there for you to consider and I hope you decide the right way forward for you yourself and not have pressure put on you by your OH,you could look forward to another 25yrs of a life like this or 25yrs of peace and a standard of living and friendship you deserve from your friends and relatives so think carefully before you make your decision.flowers

Gemmag Sat 17-Oct-15 14:47:27

Only you can decide what next to do.
Let him know you have been to see a solicitor, that should get him thinking and maybe he will realise that this time you mean it. Men are very good at burying their heads in the sand and need a good jolt to get them to listen and realise that this time you are deadly serious.
Can you take a break from him, maybe go away somewhere for a couple of weeks?. You can then focus on your marriage and whether or not you would be happier on your own.
Your life would be very different on your own but it could be very lonely!.
Lots of things to be considered least of all maybe having to sell your home.

Loads for you to think about.

Matella Tue 06-Oct-15 22:56:30

Sorry you are in this rotten situation. Can you even say that he is 'the devil you know' if he does unpredictable things?
I suppose the question is would you rather be alone than subject to such antics? Only you can answer that and there is no right or wrong, just your happiness.
I understand why you mention being fit and attractive. When considering entering a new era in your life it is perfectly natural to tot up the positives you would take with you, and although not essential, they can't hurt!
Good luck (flowers)

thatbags Tue 06-Oct-15 12:02:47

Are those friends who won't have anything more to do with your husband still your friends? If so, can you do things with them but without him?

Rhinestone Tue 06-Oct-15 11:45:31

My daughter was going to divorce her husband. He cried for days and said he would finally go to couples therapy with her. I'm happy to say things are working out.
Maybe that's what you need an ultimatum.
No one but you can decide what to do. Take away all the outside people in your life and ask yourself if you were just alone with him , with no outside interference from others, could you still be married to him?
We have to take both good and bad from our partners but when the good out ways the bad then there is a problem.
Would you be happier right now with or without him? You cannot worry about your old age and him caring for you.he could get sick and you would have to care for him. Or he could pass away and you would still be alone.
When I divorced when I was younger I decided that at least I had me and I was my own best friend.
Good luck!!

TwiceAsNice Tue 06-Oct-15 07:23:42

If he's never considered you in the past why would he now? Try to imagine what your life would look like if it was completely different and would that include him not being in it? I think it's difficult to be in relationship where someone thinks they are never wrong, I know from experience I've been in one. I dont have a right to tell you what to do but think carefully. All I know is I have been profoundly happier since I left my relationship and only wish I had done it much sooner. The solicitor will be able to explain your rights especially with regards to financial provision. I wish you luck.

absent Tue 06-Oct-15 07:19:25

carosanto It doesn't matter what we think. Only you can make the decision to stay or go. It is bound to be a hard decision – whatever you choose to do – and may well remain remain painful for a while. You have one life and part of being an adult is that you make choices – even or especially hard ones. Best wishes for your future, whatever future is your eventual option.

Leticia Tue 06-Oct-15 07:12:56

I agree with paperose.
If you want to save it I would absolutely insist that he went to Relate with you and was made to see that his problems are of his own making and he needs to take responsibility for them.
If he isn't willing to do this is it worth saving?

paperose Tue 06-Oct-15 01:10:25

I am always loathe to advise, however you have but one life - you should be enjoying it as much as is possible! If you feel you're not making the most of your life, well remember your future is in your hands, not his!!

Tresco Mon 05-Oct-15 19:35:03

In solution-focused brief therapy people are recommended to ask themselves the miracle question: If you woke up tomorrow morning and a miracle had happened overnight and all your problems had been solved, how would you know? What would it look like? The therapist asks you to describe it in minute detail - e.g. where would you wake up, who would you be with, what would you say to the other person if present, what would they say to you, what would you have for breakfast and why.... as you answer these questions it helps you identify what exactly are the problems and whether there is anything, however small, you can do to move towards your goal - or in some cases identify that really, if the miracle happened, the other person would be out of your life.

carosanto Mon 05-Oct-15 18:53:18

Thank you for your responses already. To set the record straight, we have no children,tho he has two from his previous marriage. Our main support system of friends are the very ones he has alienated by his behaviour, and it simply would be a step too far to expect help and support from that direction. They have all counselled me to leave him, and they simply will not have anything to do with him. So no pressure there!

Family, both mine and his, are extremely supportive of us both, they are very aware of his problems from way back.

Good sense from you all and I shall think very carefully upon next moves.

Gracesgran Mon 05-Oct-15 18:27:38

withdraw - I seem to have been carried away.

Gracesgran Mon 05-Oct-15 18:25:35

I think your appointment with the solicitor will help. Hearing yourself say out loud the you are considering a divorce is a big step forward. Without meaning to diminish your situation it is a bit like tossing a coin - it doesn't really give you the answer but you know whether you want or don't want what it suggests.

The challenge with a relationship where you maintain the balance with the rest of the world is that when you start to withdrawer that balancing the relief is so very great. It will be difficult to go back and be the social support again although, if you want to be in the relationship, I doubt that will change.

Grannyknot Mon 05-Oct-15 17:47:05

... too right! grin

annsixty Mon 05-Oct-15 17:34:59

I think I was referring to the fit and active part of her post.grin However being attractive does no harm.

Grannyknot Mon 05-Oct-15 16:52:15

ann you don't have to be attractive to make a new life! wink smile

corasanto ... I can imagine that you are in turmoil. I think if I were you I would jump ship. And then perhaps if he realises you are serious that things have to change you could renegotiate the relationship on your terms. Sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees from inside a relationship.

loopylou Mon 05-Oct-15 16:12:13

It sounds an unsustainable situation OP; I hope that the solicitor gives you the advice you need to decide what options you have.

A family friend is in a very similar situation but won't leave because her husband holds all the finances (goodness knows how that ever came about) so she feels effectively trapped.

Would your family support you and/or him?
Would a period of time apart clarify the next step?
I wish you luck.

annsixty Mon 05-Oct-15 15:30:43

I suppose riverwalk OP meant she could make a new life for herself if she left him.

grannylyn65 Mon 05-Oct-15 14:37:45

Lucky you!!

Riverwalk Mon 05-Oct-15 13:09:45

I'm 71, fit, active and fairly attractive

What's that got to do with the price of fish? confused

kittylester Mon 05-Oct-15 12:54:47

I hadn't seen Lucky's post and I agree with what she says.

kittylester Mon 05-Oct-15 12:42:28

What other support do you have from friends/family? A real dilemma for you but I agree with Janer.

Luckygirl Mon 05-Oct-15 12:42:00

Do not apologise. I do hope that your appointment with the solicitor will help to clear your mind a bit.

The phrase "I love him dearly" is something worth hanging on to - and the issue of a lonely old age are very important things to consider, as I am sure you know.

This is going to sound harsh - but someone once said to a friend of mine "How do you think you would feel if he died tomorrow?" - the friend in question found that a very good way of concentrating her mind.

Would he go to Relate? - does he know how near to the end of your tether you are? Does he realise that he might lose you? Might that realisation encourage him to go to Relate?

Perhaps you should go away for a week and tell him that you need a break from the things that have been happening - and list them. It would give you both a chance to think a bit.