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New relationships - how to deal with family issues. Q&A with Relate

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ballyhoo Tue 02-Feb-16 15:13:41

I was widowed four years ago and around six months ago began a relationship with an old family friend (also widowed). We are very happy. Two of my children are delighted that I am no longer lonely and alone. One can't bear to think of his father being 'replaced'. (He could never be replaced! We had the happiest marriage but that isn't going to bring him back) This has really strained our relationship and meant that his children are reticent about even acknowledging my new partner let alone building a relationship with him. They are 8 and 6 and I don't know what has been said to them when I'm not there. My new partner is a good man and his family have welcomed me with open arms. I feel terrible that mine haven't done the same and would welcome any advice

pattypan Tue 02-Feb-16 15:02:19

I was never blessed with children but was lucky enough to marry someone with three daughters who I love as though they were my own. We get on very well and I have been delighted to become grandma to their children (all born since we married so I have been there since birth)

But my husband's ex is trying to turn them against me by telling them I am not their 'real' granny. The children are all very small (6 and under) and so not necessarily old enough to realise what she is doing and it is breaking my heart. When my husband tried to talk to her all she would say was "I am the real granny and that's that".

How can we stop her from destroying my relationship with them? If it makes a difference, she and my husband split five years before he and I met after she had an affair so it's not about holding me responsible for the divorce

singlenan Tue 02-Feb-16 14:52:06

My ex husband is now married to the woman who broke up our marriage (obviously it takes two to tango but she waged a concerted campaign over several years - we were friends). I am still single. I know in my heart that the more people that love our granddaughter the better, but I have to be honest and say that I really struggle with her being 'nana carol' to her. I feel that she has taken everything from me. And now she is muscling in on the thing I have left to treasure. Our children are civil to this woman (who they have known most of their lives) but dislike her intensely. My ex and I have no contact other than being on opposite sides of a room at functions that involve our children. I don't know how to stop all this eating me up.

Luckylegs9 Sun 31-Jan-16 07:53:45

All I know is, whatever you do is wrong with grown up children.I have always put my family first to the expense of friendships. Now I rarely see the grown ups they are, they have both moved on.Tigergranny, I always looked after cards and presents for both sides of the family as didn't want anyone left out as they would have been if my husband was in charge of that side of things. He was a wonderful generous man, but forgot birthdays and dates, but never my birthday or wedding anniversary, I miss him so much and it certainly never bothered me one bit that I did it, I just used to tell him what he had sent them, get him to sign the card so his parents thought he had bought it. It meant such a lot to them.

Roxy my father remarried after my mom died, my sisters never forgave him and didn't see him in the end. It didn't bother me him remarrying, as I wanted him to be happy and he and mom had a good marriage and he missed the companionship. People who have never known lonliness cannot understand how bad it is. So make his children welcome if they visit, remember special dates, you can't and don't want to replace their mom, hopefully they will accept you as their father partner who makes him happy. Is your friend on her own and perhaps a little envious, she is probably missing the closeness you had and if you hang on in there perhaps she will accept the new different way your friendship is now as you have your partner to do a lot of the things you did with her now. Just don't make yourself unhappy because of it, life is fleeting enjoy your new found happiness.

mumofmadboys Sun 31-Jan-16 07:26:02

Congratulations Roxy 1195. Of course you have done nothing wrong. Has your best friend still got her husband? I can't understand why she can't share your happiness. I think it must be hard for adult children as they will probably see less of their Dad and perhaps it takes longer to adjust to a new partner instead of their Mum. Enjoy yourself!

Roxy1195 Sat 30-Jan-16 12:37:19

I am lucky enough to be in a loving relationship with a widowed friend
I had known his wife (my friend) and him for 20 years. 3 years after her death he decided to move our friendship on a step and it just seems to work and we are now engaged. I am so surprised at other people's reactions firstly my best mate took it very badly and secondly I don't feel totally comfortable his grown up children accept it. Is this quite normal?

He actually did all the chasing and I don't think I have done anything wrong - just grabbing a chance of happiness in later life .Just interested to hear any views on this.

mumofmadboys Sat 30-Jan-16 08:51:27

I think a forty pound gift for a 13 year old is a generous amount and plenty. A hundred pounds seems OTT for someone of that age IMO. What do you give at 18 if you give 100 at 13?? Also I agree with hulahoop that money is only one thing of many you give your GC. Don't give it another thought!!

hulahoop Fri 29-Jan-16 20:33:42

Don't feel upset witchygran you gave what you decided and was happy with this money isn't everything love and time spent together is more important ?

witchygran Fri 29-Jan-16 11:05:09

I read this while feeling rather upset this morning. It is my DGG's 13th birthday and my other half and I gave her £40. We then find out that her step-grandmother gave her £100, which made me feel so inadequate! Then I
read this blog and thought about my family. My other half is the dearest man who I met in my 50's. We have been together for 18 great years and my DD and DGG adore him. My DD's partner is a saint and a rock for them both. DGG's father is a lovely man but a commitment-phobe, which is why it didn't work out. However, we were all six of us together at Christmas and it was really lovely, so I know I am so lucky. Thank you, all you lovely Grans, for making me realise how lucky I am!

MrsHerMarbles Thu 28-Jan-16 16:54:18

My sort of son in law is a nightmare. Constantly coming to his father for money. He (my OH) is a generous man and dotes on his adult children (therein might some of the problem in my opinion). Anyway, I'd like to know how I object - carefully and with a positive outcome? We've been together for over a year now and live together. We each have our own money and share living expenses but his son's request are becoming increasingly ridiculous. He borrowed money for his rent one month, then a fancy (unnecessary) car the next. Now he wants to propose to his girlfriend and wants his dad to cough up for the engagement ring!!

tanith Thu 28-Jan-16 13:31:57

Tigergranny I think it might be a 'man' thing, in that a lot of men don't 'do' cards/gifts . My OH hardly remembers when his siblings (he doesn't have children) birthdays are , when we were first married I used to send them cards but once I realised that he probably hadn't ever bothered before I stopped . I do send them Christmas cards though as I would feel really mean not to.
I know my sons partner 'prods' him about birthdays etc for his family but she doesn't do it if he can't be bothered, sometimes he does send me cards and sometimes he doesn't.

I totally agree its not your responsibility but honestly I was embarrassed by my OH not acknowledging his own siblings birthdays but like you wasn't going to do it if he can't be bothered. He has said when he's realised "you didn't remind me", to which I have given hime 'the look' IFYKWIM wink

Tigergranny Thu 28-Jan-16 12:43:33

I want to know who should be in charge of tracking birthdays etc! I've been in my 'new' relationship for the past 6 months and we've been invited to his son's birthday do next week. I asked him yesterday what he's bought for his son as a gift and he said. 'Oh, I thought you were in charge of that!' The cheek! And this comes after a last minute dash in Dec for Christmas gifts for his extended family. If they were MY family, fine. But surely I can't be in charge of this?

LyndaW Thu 28-Jan-16 12:24:32

My son is in a newish relationship with a quite lovely, slightly older, woman. Her daughter (9) is very rude to him and the mother won't tell her off so she continues. She'll ignore him when he speaks to her, or tell him he doesn't know anything when he comments on something she's said. My son doesn't at the moment think it's his place to be disciplining her but when he's brought it up with his girlfriend she refuses to acknowledge the situation or just says she'll come round. What should he do? He would really like for the relationship to continue and would like to be given a chance. The father is absent from her life. He ran off with someone else when the child was 5.

petitpois Wed 27-Jan-16 21:07:47

Oh I can relate (see what I did there! grin) to this! My DH's youngest could not stand me to begin with (feeling was fairly mutual at the time). I refused to give in to her game playing and her father could see straight through it too. I was never rude or said anything negative about her to him of course but I could see how she manipulated scenarios so that I was made to feel unwelcome at family dos. Eventually she realised she wouldn't have her way though and she's thawed. I wouldn't say we have the best relationship but it's much improved. I didn't think I'd have had the courage to stand my ground for so long but I did and it worked in the long term. My DH is very nearly worth it grin.

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 27-Jan-16 19:41:53

Starting a new relationship has its own issues but things get even more complicated when there are other people - and tricky family relationships - involved. Perhaps your children resent your new partner? Perhaps there’s an ex-wife/husband who refuses to let go? Or maybe his/her grandchildren are taking a while to warm up to you? We’ve asked Relate expert Barbara Bloomfield to answer your most pressing concerns in a Q&A running till next Wed 3rd Feb.

Barbara Bloomfield started training as a Relate counsellor in Brighton in 1994 and is now Counselling Supervisor at Relate Cymru and a national spokesperson for Relate. Before that, she was a newspaper and radio journalist working in London, Mexico and China, after a stint with the BBC as a radio producer in Southampton.

She has written a number of books on relationships and also counsels individuals who find it hard to make relationships or want to find a new partner.

Barbara specialises in finding love (all ages), older relationships, family therapy, creativity and satisfaction in life and social anxiety, among others.