yattypung a few years ago I got so angry with ESIL but it was all internalised as I was too polite to really tell him what I thought of him. I hated the way I was feeling and in the end had to go to counselling. The counsellor just let me get my anger all out in the open and the gave me strategies to deal with it. It really helped, and although the situation still simmers on, I can cope with it better.
But I do know that murderous feeling so well 
Shysal My nasty s.i.l does the same thing, twist the truth, out and out lies and puts a scenarios that his done onto you or someone else!
Yattypung It's so hard for your D, as of course due to their Son she has to have contact. She is lucky to have you, her dear mum, to help and support her, well done 
I have bad thoughts too, that I really don't like having, but as my nasty s.i.l has destroyed my once happy, loving and close family, I think I am more normal having these bad thoughts about him & his mum, than not! I try to free my brain as much as I can though, don't want it soiled with thoughts of him!
Yattypung, your DD's story is so much like that of my DD. I can identify with the twisting of everything. DGS plays football every Sunday too. His father is a coach so has to be there, but his girlfriend always turns up and intimidates DD. I once asked him why she did this and he shouted abuse at me in front of the players and spectators, turning the tables on me, even shouting that I was having an affair with someone whose name I don't even know. This is his defence mechanism to deflect any guilt away from himself and to leave the other party feeling like sh*t.
Late us hope things improve someday for everybody in our position.
Funny [or maybe not] I was just thinking, before reading these posts, of two policemen knocking on my door, telling me my nasty s.i.l had been murdered and of course I was the prime suspect! But having an iron clad alibi for the time and day for his murder, I was off the hook. I did enlighten them of the hundreds of people that would no doubt wish him dead, as he was a druggy & drug dealer!
Yes Yattypung I wish my Karma would hurry up too 
I agree - karma definitely does do its stuff half fast enough!
When I think evil thoughts about the Idiot I then think about the impact it would have on the children. But, they are young - they'd get over it.
{grin]
Name the date and time for the chant to begin phoenix
I also remember there was a suggestion at the same time that we bump off each others ex SiL so no link to each of us
Sorry that it didn't Kitty, but glad it amused you!
Perhaps if we ALL chanted it at the same time, the collective force of the grand might have some effect?
yattypung
Another one here!
Although I have to say since he has remarried he has been too busy to keep up the 'annoying'.
I totally understand the heartbreak for any mother or father who suddenly find themselves in the nightmare situation of being separated from their children but when they can't see that for the benefit of all, especially the children' it is wise to keep things with as little acrimony as possible then I'm afraid it is a case of one party having to be the better person in trying to keep things from the children, as your DD is no doubt doing.
It's so sad to see our children's dreams of a happy family go up in smoke and even more so to think of our beloved grandchildren having to deal with the consequences too isn't it.
You did and it made me laugh phoenix but it didn't work!
Wouldn't your DD paying be worth it Lona?
shysal
I have an ad blocker on my laptop, so wouldn't have seen it, and my tablet is showing a lady shaver. Perhaps it has read my comments about having a hairy chin!
Anyone else looking at this thread got an add for Family Mediation Services how do the pick up on it so fast
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