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37 year old today.

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shandi6570 Thu 20-Oct-16 17:37:28

I think what M0nica is saying is very true. After our Mum died last year my brother and I spent a lot of time talking about our past family life. It was amazing how differently we viewed events in our joint past and a real awakening to the fact that my Mum was not as uncaring as I thought. So sad though that it was too late for me to speak to her about it all and be a loving daughter instead of the dutiful one I was.

It would be so good if Ruby could find a way to meet up with her sister and talk to each other. Is there any other family member or good joint friend who could also be there and act as a buffer/go-between?

mumofmadboys Thu 20-Oct-16 17:27:32

Someone said to me recently that where two people have a poor relationship there is always something both of you can do to improve it. So true!

KatyK Thu 20-Oct-16 10:32:57

I have three sisters. My older sister doesn't speak to anyone in the family. I am very close to my two younger sisters, we have never had a cross word. I can't imagine falling out with them.

M0nica Thu 20-Oct-16 08:52:18

Sorry the above was so long

M0nica Thu 20-Oct-16 08:51:44

I have had a difficult relationship with my youngest sister for most of our adult lives. It was only after our DF died and while clearing the house, and in our shared grief, that we talked a lot and the cause of her resentment towards me came out. It turned out I was the unknowing object of what my sister considered my mother's preference for her two elder daughters over her.

My mother was a worrier and when with one child she would always talk and worry about the others. It had never occurred to my sister that when she was not around our DM talked constantly of her to her two older sisters. Since we talked this through the tensions have gone from our relationship and we now have the relationship of two loving sisters. However, why she resented me because of this, I do not understand.

Dear ruby, I can offer no solutions, but, as in my case, you are the elder sister, and I sometimes think that younger siblings do tend to feel jealous of older siblings. Also your sister was seriously ill as a small child and sick children often become the centre of family life, not spoilt, but the central concern long after they have recovered. My sister was 7 years my junior and was very much the centre of attention as the baby of the family. I think when she was old enough for my mother to talk of family matters in her hearing, she suddenly discovered she wasn't the centre of her mother's world and this upset her world view. As I have discovered my sister's interpretation of what went on in the family was completely different to mine. Not wrong, just different. It led to her resentment against me for many decades. Fortunately we have sorted it out.

Ruby, if you were ever a fly on your sister' wall, you would probably be completely dumb struck by your sister's interpretation of all the events you describe. It would be entirely different from yours, so different you would find it hard to believe that the same events were being talked about. Perhaps if the two of you ever got an opportunity to sit down together and, in turn, one spoke and one listened, and explained their side of the divide and how they saw events, you could both accept that there is no right and wrong, but two different and contradicting views of your common world. On some matters you may reach agreement but on others may need to agree to differ.

As I have learnt, my sister and I had completely different childhoods in the same family. I was the oldest, she the youngest, events that happened when I was fourteen, happened when she was 7. I remember life before she was borne, she was still a child at home long after I had left home.

annsixty Wed 19-Oct-16 20:27:13

I have no siblings and find it hard to imagine close family ties. My Father died when I was 11 and I can hardly remember him. My mother was a difficult woman and if I am totally honest I was never close to her and did not mourn her, I did mourn the relationship I wished we had. To lose someone you loved through death is so hard, to lose them through family squabbles and disagreement must be so much harder but it takes two and if you have tried and failed to make it up I guess you must just come to terms with it.

rubylady Wed 19-Oct-16 19:21:40

My sister is 37 years old today. Unfortunately I no longer see her, since my dad's funeral in March. It breaks my heart.

When she was born she had heart problems too. She was operated on at a week old, in Liverpool. It was a very stressful time as we had lost my brother the year before at 36 weeks pregnant, aged 12 hours old. My mum and I stayed at the hospital and were dreading a knock on the door to say to come quick. She then got an infection and was on the strongest antibiotics, it was touch and go for a while there. Luckily she came through.

I was at my happiest when she came home and my mum allowed me to hold her in the car all the way home. I have loved her and protected her to my best ability as home life was awful and she was born into it bless her, my brother and I at least had a few years up to being 11 ish until the wars began.

But my ED left home I became very depressed after going through a five year period of going out, partying, enjoying life after getting divorced. But once the black dog struck, my sister didn't want to know. She still wanted to party and not be involved with depression and told me to "pull myself together". She also left me alone when I asked her for help when my DS was going through his depression. It was very hard and scary to go through it alone. If the tables were turned I would have been by her side in a shot. So things have been up and down between us for a while now and after being greedy over my dad's money, even though she hadn't seen him for years, then I did tell her I don't want to see her. She told the vicar not to give him the last rites, the vicar over ruled her as I had asked for it to go ahead as my dad was religious. I couldn't believe she would go against his wishes.

But do estranged family members not think that it breaks our hearts on days where we are supposed to be getting together? Birthdays lost, Christmas's not celebrated together. Why is society going the way of selfishness and not taking anyone else's point of view? It used to be give and take, doesn't seem so now and it is so sad.