Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.

Celeb and Smileless - do you find that the effect all this has on your husbands is not recognised? My MIL often says to me that she feels very sorry for me because I don`t see the grandchildren - she doesn`t seem to realise that it is just as upsetting for my husband (her only son). Perhaps it`s because she`s from a generation where Dads weren`t so involved with children. I think that in many ways it is harder for the Grandfathers as they often don`t have close friends than can talk to about it.

I'm glad Mr. C. enjoyed his birthday and got lots of lovely pressies and cards. So sorry Celeb that you're back on morphine, it's hardly surprising that you felt weepy it must be very frustrating for you to be unable to get rid of your back pain.

It is upsetting when our DH's don't get a card from our EC on their birthdays and fathers day. They don't expect to get one any more than we do, but it still hurts.

By way thanks smileless for support, I too wonder why I got such rude post but heyho seems typical of that poster.

Oh am so glad smilelss that sounds really positive!

Yippee can't wait for July we will have ??also for our ruby wedding?

Thanks dh enjoyed our pub lunch v good food but bit crowded, then dear elderly neibor popped round for cuppa with press and card. Sat my nephew and his dear wife and little ones popped round with card so he did quite well. There was lovely suprise visit little xxxxxxx was poorly with cold but managed listen to story and play game hide and seek her favourite still!

I was v low sadly in lot pain so I was bit tearful, part of. E was hurting for dh as felt if only he could have card from ou daughter , think being in constant pain making me low back on morphine again.

We had great visit from dh 2nd cousin Friday and we coped but all bit difficult with me being unable do v much was smashing see him tho he bought champagne ad card for dh so yes he was spoilt!

Our son Sent champagne and chics and rang yesterday.

I have been out for lunch today with old friend she did me spaghetti bolognaise mmmm lots and lots chatting!

Have good evening all xx

Hope you all had a good weekend and that Mr. C. enjoyed his birthday Celeb. Tell him we'll make sure he gets the real thingandwhen we meet up in July.

I saw on one of the other estrangement threads that you'll soon be going on a yoga retreat Yogagirl and you'll be going to where they're currently showing 'The Real Marigold Hotel'; how fabulous. You'll have to let us know what it's like there.

We had a lovely day yesterday, helped by relatively warmand clear blue skies. After going to church we skyped DS then took our little dog for a walk on the sea front. We took the open top shoreline before walking home.

It's really lovely living here. Spring is just around the corner and for the first time in more than four years we're looking forward to what this year will bring.

'Happy Birthday Mr. C.'.

eddiecat.

Bibity"Do not be so deluded as to believe that you can ... write whatever you want here with no response". This is not a pity party and I see no reason why you felt it necessary to make the post you did in response to Celeb's post in which she thanked you for respecting the fact that this is a support thread.

Eddiecat that's funny! husbands can get fed up

It's my dh birthday today so keeping offline from now on he has done e rafher well for lovely cards and pressies we now off for lunch,

Hope fairydoll still enjoying her holiday

What a pity bibbity has no concept of manners but she is best ignored,

Fairydoll - I have noticed in some of your posts that your husband is getting irritated about the amount of time you spend on Gransnet whilst on holiday- presumably this is because he feels he is "entitled" to spend time with you - this is very "toxic" behaviour on his part - you should cut him off immediately!
(Please tell me you realise this is meant to be a joke - I don`t want to be told off again!)

And Celeb id you had an basic understanding of the internet you'd understand the concept of open forums and how you have 0 control over this.
Like I said I'll leave this thread alone. As long as I am not mentioned and I will absolutely post if my children are mentioned. Do not be so deluded to believe that you can all write whatever you want here with no response.
Pity party - fine
Bitching about posts on another thread, posters themselves and their CHILDREN that's fine as well as long as you're prepared to defend that comment.

If bibbity u read the title to this thread the U will understand it isn't the place for your discussions, I thank U very much for respecting that.

Oh fairydoll bless u just had amazing night out with friends it was so good, recollections tributes from 50 to to now and such good show with good friends too,

So was good come back and read your common sense and valid post!

Have to say totally agree with eddiecat am also wondering if they sjchngood mums how they spend so long online?!

Have good weekend all. Dh birthday tomorrow or rather today! Good start.

Have a good Sunday everyone. It's late and we're off early morning to our next stop.

Leave the AIBU lot to pat themselves on the back and congratulate each other on their superior parenting skills and knowledge of family relationships.

Not an ounce of humility or empathy, just a lot of self serving, holier than thou load of --crap nonsense.

And remember, ladies, if your child was born with a physical defect or a mental abberation, it's your fault. You're toxic. Go don your sackcloth and ashes.

Yes, I agree, too, if the "other thread" we're talking about is the AIBU thread. If people are asking "Am I being unreasonable?" it's perfectly all right, imo, for another poster to say, "Yes, you are and here's why." But this thread that we're in now was created for support and encouragement.

I agree. I won't comment as long as posts arent created referring to my posts and certainly not my children.

I think we should keep the other thread for discussion and leave this one for support. Just my opinion.......

Well my children seem perfectly well rounded so ft. But thank you for your concern.

I`m only just managing to resist the urge to reply to the outrageous comments on the AIBU thread. Apparently grandchildren are going to suffer lifelong damage if they spend so much as a minute in our company. What about the damage children suffer from spending time with the sort of vicious, spiteful, intolerant women who make these posts?

Hi sparkly gran well dh birthday Sunday been difficult yet lovely day if u get me we viewed bungalow difficult as standing hurt my back and shecwas chatty lady! Sparked row sadly as dh didn't get my glare never mind m twin calmed and we had great time with dh secing cousin lovely chap from Bristol so don't c often on whole good and Tom we git dance with friends watching for me mainly Sunday lunch out for dh birthday hope u enjoy weekend sparkly and rest of u xx

celebgran Smileless2012 Yogagirl thank you for your support n this new thread and I hope you all (and others) have a peaceful warm and relatively pain free (celebgran) weekend.

I am going to have a quiet weekend - no trip out tomorrow as I got caught in a Rugby crowd 2 weeks ago by being late down in Cardiff. They were all very friendly and no violence but it took an extra 1.5 hours to get home. Some poor person had a heart attack on the platform but thankfully due to skills of staff and a defibrillator, they have survived.

I will maybe watch some Tenko again, make a pasta dish. What are other grans doing?

Yogagirl that's v sad, in our case it could well be the same, we just don't know but realise s i law had dont his best to cut off xxx entire family ?????

I lost my post as I didn't see I had lost signal, tried to C&P and restart pc, but didn't work

Celebgran no offence taken over anything said on here re estrangement, we all understand each other, but as I've said there will be no reconciliation with my estD whilst she is with her nasty H his mother and I & my ND wouldn't want one, it wouldn't work and he for sure wouldn't allow it.

Sorry smilelss forgot say wow you're U are a splendid cook sounded like yummy meal u did for Neibor's last week,

Sparklygran wow u are being positive well done,

I feel rush of positive when sunnShines bought some pretty polyanthas got one on dining room table cream goes with new tablecloth !

Yogagirl come on now retype! X

Happens me too do we hit delete by mistake?

Well feel good after hairdo! Mymdesr nairdresser due March 6th as said praying for happy result this time bless her she been through so much.

Her partner was supposed (at salon) to do my colour next month butmsadly her back bad so bless her she offered come do it at my home not ideal but so kind of her
So on whole a good day,
Tomorrow dh 2nd cousin coming for dinner v. Nice chap so that's good,
Dh birthday Sunday so sadness in back ground I know he misses his daughter so much wish I could wave a wand!

Smilelss,I have been driving just not been up tomgetting up early taking dh to work we share car see, however this week I did?

Have heard positive results from people who had back injections it owjkd be wonderful be free of pain,

Happy evening to us all????

You have my sympathy Yogagirl, it's happened to me a few times and it's always the long ones we lose isn't it.

Just lost a big long post