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When did others begin to live again after beinging Widowed.
(51 Posts)After some very hard times with both of us having elderly parents who needed help and ill health in us too, I have now found myself to be the last one standing. Parent and Parents in law died and DH died before the last of my parents. I am not in great health although better than I was. I expected to live the rest of my life on my own with the odd visit from DCs. I never thought I would ever consider any man.
Recently I met someone I was at school with. We have met now and then over the years since school. He greeted me very warmly, huge smile on his face, massive hug and many compliments on how well I looked. I accepted the hug and compliments well. Normally I go rigid if anyone touches me even relatives (but not the DGC) My own DC are not very understanding or tactile with me. I was surprised at the way I dealt with this man's greeting.
I just wonder if this is some kind of indication that I am accepting the loss of DH and the life we had planned after all our obligations to DCs and DPs were fulfilled. I never thought I ever would and even just a few weeks ago I was thinking about how I met DH and how I would never be as taken with anyone else. It was just the first time I had felt comfortable with anyone touching me even in the most innocent and friendly way.
I would be interested to have any stories of how others coped in such situations.
PS I know this man is single and very decent.
Thank you for reading this through.
Thanks Rosesareread. I am trying to change my life. I want to move on and stop being just sat at home waiting for when I am wanted.
I have read threads about moving to another area and I get a bit put off by some of the postings. Some advice says move to where you have some family support. I would be moving away from the small number of family I have. Other comments are it is OK when there are 2 of you but what happens when only one left. I am the only one left. These posts are sensible but not really applicable to my situation.
I will keep on till I find something to improve my life. I will check out meet ups. I was considering a meet up for a group involved with another aspect of my life. It is a seaside place about 40 miles away so I could have a good day out to start with.
I have no idea where Dorothee lives but I hope she also finds some place to meet up with anyone.
Thanks Rosesarered
Dorothee that may be something that you could do as well??
You will find support on here Westerley and if you look on the threads for meet ups, you may find there is one near you, so that you can meet Gransnet members for coffee.
Westerlywind, be kind to yourself, you deserve happiness.
Thank you MissAdventure. Your words mean a lot to me. I am not treated to much kindness so when I am I appreciate it more
You have had an awful, awful lot to contend with, westerlywind
I really hope that now you can concentrate on your own needs and wishes. You really have earned it!
hoping you'll gradually start to build the life you'd like.
Hi
Thanks for all the very useful advice and information.
I am indeed very unhappy, but is that depression?
When I was caring for the parents and DH there was no family around me. Not one person offered to give me "time off" I did not have a day in town never mind a holiday. I was with my grandparent at death. There should have been loads of people there but there was only me. I was not happy that there was no family support at all, not really for my sake more for the sake of the people who had relatives could not show face at crucial times. I know that some people could not bear to be at a death bed, I had to do it at a reasonably young age for a grandparent. When my parent was in hospital someone phoned and said they were planning a visit, I said I will take that afternoon off. I was visiting afternoon and evening. The response was you don't want to see me or the children.
When the last parent died, I was present having spent days at the bedside. Some family came to the hospital after death but walked away without even saying anything to me.
I later found out that a family member had attempted to mess with my parent's money even though I was Power of Attorney. This was an amount just short of £100,000
My DCs expect me to be there should I be needed but stay out of the way otherwise. I have been called out of my bed to take a child to hospital and another time I had to take some necessary meds to a DC's workplace at 2 or 3 a.m. This was a place I did not know and a scary area.
My DC's are aware that I have health problems. I have DLA. Sometimes they have been to hospital appointments with me. My conditions are hereditary. One DC has already been diagnosed with one and in fact is more seriously affected than me. I have another condition for which it is advisable for my close relatives to be tested. They refuse to be tested. Their choice I know but I wish I had had that opportunity.
I was brought up in a household where father worked and mother ran the house and looked after children. I know times have changed but I just can not accept my DDs work all hours to keep their (male) partners. I accept that might be old fashioned now.
This week I have been poorly. I had a phone call asking if I could babysit. I said I would but unfortunately I have developed another illness. Not terribly serious illnesses as long as you don't have underlying conditions.
The baby sitting was to involve a lot of travelling around. I used to babysit at the child's own house. Since the new partner joined the household (or not) I have never been alone in DDs house with the child. To complete this babysitting task the child would have had to be off school, then brought to my house 15 miles away, then I was to take child to a place 10 miles in another direction and after that take home. Probably this would be a total mileage of over 50 to 60 miles. To collect the child from school, take home to child's house, take to event and take back to child's home and take myself home would be about 35 miles. I do not expect to be banned from my child's house by a "bidie in" who is not officially there. Nor do I want my child and gchild dictated to as to who is allowed in their house.
As I have been at my home going through my poor health these last 10 days I have noticed that I was asked to babysit involving a lot of excessive running around but I was not asked do you want some shopping or medications brought. I was however told that because I am so fussy about cleaning round my kitchen and house in general this is why I am not well. I think I was criticised for being too clean.
I also face a lot of criticism such as I can't do anything like cook, sew, knit, decorate or drive even though I have done these things for years. I am shouted at in public in shops etc. I really don't have much to be happy about. The conduct of my DC is not what they were brought up to be. I have been told that it is called social decay and/or inverted snobbery where they behave badly when they were educated and brought up to have manners but chose not to.
My family showed no kindness or consideration while I was caring every hour of the day for years on end. Maybe I don't want them pretending to be friendly now that there is no reason for them to be asked to care sit. My own DCs never hug me but do shove their faces at me to be kissed on their departure. With all the lack of affection I am scared that any person showing me any warmth will spin my head!
Whether I go further with this man or not is academic now. I want to find a life which suits me better than this one I am living just now. I am limited by health problems but I need to stop the emotional batterings of being only wanted when useful and being criticised constantly. I have even been told that my parents never liked me but did find me useful! That was from a DC, the same one who thinks I should comply with her new partner's wishes that no-one is in her house. She has already lost friends due to him. He is not officially a member of the household, contributes nothing and she is in rent arrears despite earning sufficient.
I don't have a lot of fun in life just now but I would hope that I would be more comfortable away from all this either by physically moving to another area or by just steering clear. My last parent had heard the way I was treated by the DCs and had spoken out on my behalf. A nurse on my parent's ward told me that if her DCs spoke to her like mine had to me she would "bounce them off the walls". People do see what is causing me so much upset with the way my DCs treat me.
Thanks for all responses.
Starlady, thank you for your comments. My daughter rarely leaves the house, she doesn`t have much of any sort of a life. I don`t like leaving her for long periods anymore, as she can hardly do anything for herself now. We cope, and will go on coping, it`s just not much of a life anymore, but lots are a lot worse off, so I should perhaps put up and shut up?
Westerly, imo, you haven't done anything wrong. You have a right to accept or not accept hugs from whoever you wish. Perhaps a hug from someone outside your family seems more casual to you than one from a family member, and that's why it was okay? Maybe you "freeze out" family members because you are afraid they will expect too much from you if you're all warm and huggy?
Anyway, I agree with lizzy you sound very depressed. Even though you have been for counseling, I think you need more. It certainly couldn't hurt. Please at least consider it.
Callgirl1, I'm deeply sorry for your loss, too. You do have much to look forward to, however - all your gc's various milestones!
Does disabled dd have a social life? A job? Any chance for further achievements in her life? You have those to look forward to, also!
But perhaps you mean something all your own? Can you take a vacation now and then? That would definitely be "something to look forward to!" If you can't leave ddd alone, is there a family member who would care for her while you were away? Or can you afford to hire someone?
Do you ever get to go out for the day at least? For something fun, I mean? A shopping spree? Lunch or dinner out with friends? A good film? A weekly class or book club, etc? If you want things to look forward to, you may have to make them happen. Best of luck!
Afternoon all. My husband died almost 5 months ago. I`m not lonely, my disabled daughter lives with me, and my other 4 children and my grandchildren keep in regular contact, but I just keep thinking of things we did or were going to do, and have such feelings of regret. At my age, 73, there`s not really much likelihood of me finding anyone else, and I don`t really want to, I just want something to look forward to.
In fact I believe that any will you have already made is invalid once you marry.
Thanks Lizzypopbottle. I have been to bereavement counselling and CBT too. I do try to get out as much as I can. I think I have expectations of my DCs being like I was to my parents. My DCs have OHs and DGC and they also work. Young people today do not seem to think that family is not confined to them their partners and children. There is a different way of life now. People move away from parents and siblings whereas in the past it was usual to live a few streets from parents and adult siblings. I see that from my family history interest. It was also the case in DH's family and they were a big family.
I think I need to find a new life that I will enjoy and disregard that my DCs want me to stay in the house and babysit on demand. It is just getting up the nerve to move.
If I am living in place of my choice with the attributes that I want I might be happier. If not at least I will have a better view!
Hi westerlywind, I haven't read everyone's replies so I apologise if this has already been suggested. Please go to your GP and explain how very low you are feeling. It sounds to me as if you might be suffering from depression. It's very, very common in people who are, or have been, caring for elderly relatives. So many lose the will to care for themselves and they often feel lonely and isolated. There are medications, therapies and support groups that can help you to feel better. You really deserve some help to recover from so many years of caring.
Thank you all so much for a the valuable comments.
I feel that I have frozen/rejected family people who have tried to hug me and been accepting of a non family member who hugged me. Family is important to me so I feel that I have done something wrong.
I know that being a widow I am now a single person but I don't know that I have accepted that. Someone asked me a while back how long I had been married and I counted from the date of the wedding to that date and not until the date of DH's death. I don't know what others say. Do they count from marriage to death of the spouse or straight to the day asked?
My DC's have their own lives with partners and children and I am only of use as babysitter or money lending other than that I am not expected to say anything. I don't think they realise that I spend most of my time alone.
The last time I was comfortable with touching another adult was sitting with a DP on their death bed. After that I got nervy about being touched. My DCs never actually touch me in any way. They do tell the DGC to hug and kiss me but they never do. The DCs don't help with practical matters such as helping to put out heavy things for the bins. I accept that they have their lives but surely that is not a reason to not help their mum.
I have a fair bit of knowledge about legal stuff, having dealt with the DP's. DPiL's and DH estates. I know how the law goes but that does not really suit here. Money is traditionally left to the person(s) who were of help to the deceased prior to death. This is why I inherited, I cared for my parents while sibling ignored. This is also why my parents inherited from their parents and their aunts and uncles I do not necessarily feel that my DCs should inherit from me since they practically ignore me until needed for something to suit them. I don't actually feel that I have anyone who cares about me now.
I am going to be very careful about this. I am scared that I am so lacking in any affection that I could be easily swayed by any friendliness.
Being so busy, rushed off my feet to be honest, caring for one and all here I not only lost my loved ones I lost my "job" and my reason for being here. I don't feel I have much purpose now other than being "on call" for babysitting. I like to see my DGC but it is always just so that parents can work never for a social reason. The DCs are against me moving out of the area because of the babysitting needs.
It is a very lonely life now. Dorithee is so right. I know my Grandmother was longer a widow than she was a wife. I don't think that will happen to me but it does look a very empty road ahead. I wish it was different. I know I need to be careful. You have no idea how many married men have make me "offers". I didn't think a soon to be pensioner with an incurable condition would be approached by men. His wife is also ill and he is the carer! I also do not wish to be a carer again.
Thanks everyone. I am sorry to hear that you have also experienced this deep pit I am in.
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Dorithee I was sad to read you are lonely and miserable. If you were my mum I wish you would gently tell me how unhappy you are, I might be able to help. My mum was lonely, but she said she was fine and doing what she needed to do. When she finally told us how lonely and miserable she was - my brothers and I got together and made a visiting and phoning schedule. She cheered up with visits by phone or for tea. We also scheduled who would bring her for meals, walks to the shops, gardening, Church.
So sorry Dorithee, loneliness is awful after so many years together .
Hi.I lost my husband on 15 July 2016,we were married for 43 years and my children don't know what I'm going through and I live a very lonely existence.Loneliness is a miserable disease do what makes you happy.
Westerly I was widowed very suddenly when my husband died when he was 37. I was 34 and my children were 5 and 6. Six years later I reconnected with someone who had been a very close friend when we were both teenagers. He was divorced and his three children lived with him. Our renewed friendship unexpectedly turned into love and we married five years later. That was now twenty years ago, when we had five teenagers between us! Fortunately the two sets of youngsters have always got on well and, though it wasn't without its difficulties, the blending of the families has worked well.
My advice would be to do what you feel happy with, at your own pace. No-one can replace your first husband and you will never forget him, but there is nothing wrong in moving on with your life and being happy again. Enjoy this man's friendship and company and see where things lead.
My mum was widowed at 58 and remet an old boyfriend ( well he found her ) at 70 they had a lovely 6 years together not living together but seeing each offen phone calls everyday. But they never wanted to get married .
But when he gother sick hmm.
His kids left a lot up to her but as they did not live together she did not have to look after him so his was in hospital ( bed blocking) for ages ( hundred of mile away from mum)while they worked out what do with him . They found one home near mum but he could stay there so back a hospital local to mum he went thenot they found another home very bad I would have moved him straight away but mum and I had no authority. The kids had to mum permission to do his shopping talk to Dr etc.
They finally got him into a good home and sadly he died. Mum had
no say in funeral and was introduced to vicar as a special friend.
His kids spend loads of time staying at mum flat while they visited their dad.
So as divorce disabled women in her 50s I I am so wary of getting into a full blown relationship I don't want to force to look after some and I don't want them to force to look after me.
Sorry to hear of your losses ..and so glad you have met someone from long ago who you know well and can trust ! You read so much in the papers now about men who woo women just for a passport, money and other things you have to be so careful !
There is a lot to be said for living as you do ...keeping your own home and enjoying the companionship and friendship of your friend with no strings attached...
I am sure your lovely sounding husband would not have wanted you to stay alone or lonely for the rest of your life, so enjoy your friendship and don't fret !
My second husband was a widower when I met him, from a happy marriage of 42 years with two grown up daughters. I asked the daughters if they had any objection to his marrying me because of inheritance etc (although where we lived then, in Spain, and now in France inheritance laws are different so a re marriage has not made much difference to their eventual inheritance) and the unanimous answer was 'No, we are glad he will have someone to look after him' ..he is 84 tomorrow and no longer in such good health as he was when we married 16 years ago but you have to take the rough with the smooth and we did have wonderful years for the first few ! I have to say, though, that having been married the first time for 17 years (he ran off with the barmaid), 13 years the fiance of a commitment phobe (he ran off with a woman from the US who he have never met !)(and then had the cheek to phone me and say can we meet - I made a mistake ! NO ! .....my doctor said to me with a grin on her face 'You are a glutton for punishment ..why not just stay single !' .....think, on reflection she may have had a point .........
Wish you all the best for a fulfilling future ! 
My husband died 3 years ago age 66 after 10 years of devastating illness. Both our parents died long ago, also his only sister. I don't have siblings and my only grandchildren live in the USA. An old friend of ours was so kind and helpful to me ; we now have a loving relationship and are very happy together although we both have our own houses (quite close together ). Be open to new friendships and try to look forward , that would be my advice. X
In answer to my own question, I have been on Google. If I remarry I need to make a new will to exclude my new husband from any assets. It sounds harsh but... needs must. It's a minefield as I worry the law will change. So I'll still give the wedding a miss! New relationships are fun but just be careful.
L izzypopbottle, I have a will but because I worry for my children I won't risk anything being contested. Surely if I married my spouse would be entitled to my house if he is living in it, or would He?
My dog would have to like him though.... ?
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