Support can i empathise that word please thread for families or anyone undergoing trauma through estrangement also positive moving on for us all

This thread seems to be back exactly where it was three years ago. The only differences from previous posts is that the title of each new thread is getting longer and increasingly incomprehensible.

As before there seem to be new posters trying to be helpful and getting shot down in flames.

For those of us who have seen most of the posts of the previous COOTLE threads, this one is going exactly the same way. Round and round in ever decreasing circles.

I will now don my flak jacket for the inevitable barrage coming my way for saying this.

And as I have been called nasty, a troll and leading a sad, sad and boring life, can I point out that the OP used to interview people for jobs in her position as a legal secretary. Nasty,moi?

Thanks MawBroon, I'm not a regular visitor to the pedants corner(did I miss an apostrophe there?) but, I've had to sit on my fingers not to comment on the thread title here.

I think it's a great Freudian slip. Very apt.

As this seems to have become the thread of choice out of the 3 started by this group, would it be possible to get GNHQ to correct the unconscious typo/Freudian slip in the title, to emphasise?
I am sure they will empathise

Have a good time, celeb!

Celeb, have a lovely time.

Smillesss my twin could not be less like me??calm, laid back and a real gem bless him, however a tad tooo laid back at times ref his partners??

We have had fine warm day and tried keep off here to help dh I. Garden. It was supposed to rain like hell all day glad It didn't . Got r beans and tomatoes set that dear friend gave me Friday and I managed weeding on my stool ?
Smilless got pm you as can't put it on here

We will read, eat sleep and enjoy evenings.

Not a cruise Norah 10 day chill out at adult hotel Tenerife ?

Will miss you,all if can't get online catch up end month.

Well it's certainly worth a try eddie but if one of my pairs goes missing I'll be hunting you down.

Oh Celeb you poor thing it must be awful being in constant pain; I hope it doesn't spoil your holiday you and Mr. C. certainly deserve one. Isn't your bro great, it must be nice having a twin although I'm sure for some, the thought of their being another one like me would be a bit scary; especially for Mr. S.

It's horrible here, grey and raining all day. I'm just building up to taking our little dog for a walk; not sure who hates getting wet the most, me or him.

Lucky you, limitless alcohol on a river cruise holiday is a bit of a problem.

Thanks Norah I do know to my cost it makes. ME very sick if I have more than a weak martini or small glass wine.

Thanks for warning though, luckily our holiday package doesn't t include alcohol so won't be tempted overindulge!

Oh Celeb, please be careful with pain tablets and wine. You need to be so cautious.

Eddiecat Smilelss as you know in my case it s i law who involved police and actually my own flesh and blood daughter that has betrayed me.
My s i law who argued with my daughter not to speak to her dad and no way could he see the children when she actually wanted him to.

Indeed her entire day family, friends, and godparents, all discarded a huge thing,

I get it that sons tend follow their partners but I have been unlucky a daughter s a daughter for all of her life but not mine??

However I cannot imagine my lovley son betraying me but it's almost spooky to put into words, at one time I would never imaged my daughter doing this who would?

Do hope eddiecat that your son keeps contact with children and some good may come from the split i.e. You being able see children,

I keep busy and thank god for wonderful friends and rest family but it will never ever be easy for any of us.

Well sooo chuffed with new taps , and bless dear brother for hanging on while I nipped off change them??
We did manage cuppa and cake after.

I have almost licked packing too, but back is ?? throwing pain relief down My throat and dh just got my heatpad,

Happy evening all just had small glass?All am allowed.

if I type [irregularchoice] will that work?

Not that I'm pushing you to send me flowers eddie but all you have to do is type [then the word flowers followed by]; no spaces between [] and the word.

No not unscathed but we wear our battle scars with pride. Perhaps if one of us remembers when the other thread reaches it maximum number of posts, we could use that as a title for the next one; 'onwards and upwards after estrangement'.

Smileless - that truly is heart breaking - I`d send you some flowers but I don`t know how to do it!
Talking of strength of character - your`s and Mr S`s must be pretty amazing to come through that - I won`t say "unscathed"

I guess "onwards and upwards" should be our mantra

"Why 2 threads going?" why not?

I've been posting on GN for more than 4 years so it isn't possible for me to show you all the examples there have been of the caliber of posts I have referred too grannygrace and I doubt it would any difference to you if I could. There have been many, and they've been commented on by other GN's who are not regular posters on the support threads for estrangement.

You stated that the reason why new posters don't remain is because the regulars on the estrangement support threads are entrenched in their pity party. You are wrong as I explained but once again, when a pertinent point is made that contradicts one of your statements, it is ignored.

We are members of a support group, not a gang. I haven't been part of a gang since I was at primary school. Yes indeed, 'there are none so blind as those who will not see'. I prefer that wording. If someone cannot see they are not at fault but those who will not see are responsible.

I do really believe in the strength of your DS's character eddie. I'm sure your right and our ES has been put under tremendous pressure to tow the line and TBH I think I could have lived with that.

If he'd said, texted or emailed that he was sorry but for the sake of his marriage and child he couldn't have anything to do with us, that he loved us but this was the choice he had to make' God knows that would have been heart breaking. But it's the lies, the attempted destruction of our characters,
of our very being, of everything we stand for and all the good that we've tried to do that I cannot, and never will be able to accept. for you, your DS and GC.

I do not think there should be 2 threads running parallel on the same subject,wonder if GCHQ agree.

Smileless - good to see you back! On another of the many threads you very kindly referred to my son`s strength of character. I just wanted to say that I think it is very likely he would have cut himself off from us if DIL had just been a bit nicer to him! In fact, her behaviour became so difficult that he felt he had to talk to someone and by that stage we were all he had left - she had made it impossible for him to keep in touch with anyone she couldn`t control. She wanted him to choose her or us - and he could so easily have chosen her - he was desperate to keep her happy as she was threatening to stop him seeing the children. I know some people think we blame DILs too much - but they do have a lot of power when children are involved. I don`t know all the details of what happened with your son but I think he will have been put under tremendous pressure to do what your DIL wanted. He may even have come to believe some of the things she has said as that is the only way he can make sense of the situation he has found himself in.

And why 2 threads going.

Nasty,cruel,malicious, ill informed and judgemental.Please pray show me these posts,except for those posted by a member of your gang. I for one post in response to something I may not agree with,free speech same as everyone else on here. None so blind as they who cannot see.

I've read through the thread from the beginning so haven't missed anything Celeb; 'same old, same old'.

Well you may or may not be interested to learn gracegran that the reason many new posters don't continue to post isn't because they regard the regulars as indulging in their own 'pity party', it's because of nasty, cruel, malicious, ill informed and judge mental comments made by others. I regularly correspond with 3 via pm who no longer feel able to post publicly for fear of how they'll be responded too.

ninathenana. I remember how difficult I found our eldest GC's 5th birthday at the beginning of the year. They're growing up aren't they, changing all the time and we've missed and will continue to miss so much.

Ooooh Indian head massage Celeb; I love them. Now what will it take to talk you into giving me one in July, if only for 5 minutes: ???chocs?; I'll run to all 4 if it works.

I echo that too ninathena

It is more complicated from what you saying.

I most of ornsad cases it is An actual flesh blood family member doing the hurtful cut off

?we will all try support you best we can

It's so wrong imo when partners cause heartbreak for children innocent victims caught in middle of relationship breakdown,

Nina - I think you are doing the right thing not putting your daughter through that if it is so stressful for her - but it must be devastating for you. I shouldn`t think that seeing you was upsetting the children at all - these controlling people will always come up with an excuse for their behaviour.

I wish I could think of something to say that would make you feel better. I just hope you get some comfort from knowing you are not alone.