Support can i empathise that word please thread for families or anyone undergoing trauma through estrangement also positive moving on for us all

Nina. There is a website called BabyCentre. On there is a private group called single parents.
They will have experience and brilliant advice that could really help your daughter. Has she applied for mediation? This is required to petition the courts for visitation.
Unless she is a danger to the children she will get access to her children.
Depending on the length of time apart this may have to start in a contact centre but it will progress.

eddiecat
Brief history. GCx2 live with their father as he can't handle them living with D and new partner. D was unemployed and took long time to sort benifits so she could not pay maintenance for 2-3 mths. So she was denied access because of this. We had been allowed to have GC for over night stay once a month. Now their father is saying it's too upsetting for them and they would expect mummy to be here. She never was when they visited before. He insists not seeing us is less upsetting for them. We did child care 3-4 days a week prior to his and D's split so were very close to GC.
D can't handle contact with her ex as he is a total control freak. She had depression and anxiety when with ex. D did offer to bite the bullet and see ex so that we could see GC but I've seen what a 5 min phone conversation withh ex can do to her. I couldn't put her through that for our sake.

I used to do that Katek just charged minimum ie £3 cover materials before I became ill sadly some of the relatives use to query it! And the ladies loved bit of papmpering and contact.

Dh massages voltarrol into my back take your point impossible do your own!?

Will try find pics when get back acquacise

Be interested to see your pics celeb. I'm amazed by what the techs in the salon can do. One of them periodically goes to local care home and gives manicures (free) to the residents. They love it

It's a pity with your back issues that you can't treat your own aches and pains, but you'd have to be a contortionist to reach round the back! Would make things worse!

Very well said eddiecat we will stick to this thread, fairydoll and I started 2 more in hope some people would read title i.e. Suport thread? Sadly they were unable to,

Hope smilless is ok she not been on few days thank goodness she missed some nastiness,

Oh - and just to explain why some of us have decided not to respond to certain posters - it`s not because we aren`t interested in other opinions - it`s just that we find it very depressing and exhausting having to deal with so much negativity. Personally I would prefer to interact with people who are interested in being nice to each other

Ninathenana - I`m so glad to see you back and that you haven`t been put off. Can you remind us about your story? I hope you get through the day ok. The first year after we were cut off from our Grandchildren was definitely the worst. We are about 7 years along the line now and starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel so don`t give up. Nothing will make up for the lost years but we do have some hope for a better future now
Take care of yourself today

Ninathena my heart goes out to you?

Birthdays are so tough in our sad place,

My beloved Gra daughter will be 9 on 8 June Election Day, every year I upsets me more than I can say,

Thinking of you today, x

Katek I am Mobile and most regulars are elderly bless them, I have a beauty room also as don't take massage couch out, yes I love nail art will try post pics when have time, when I qualified we were taught how the gel and false nails damage natural nails.

However I use gel formula nail polish and topcoat but not lamp.

Yes I agree is papmpering in salon my ed said (I trained for beauty when she was pregnant)I had shot myself in foot as I used have manicures, she was correct now I am too critical if I go to salon,
At time she said she wished I wasn't training but admitted she was being selfish,

Then I wants do Indian head massage but found needed study anatomy and physiology which I did and passed withndistinction (sorry for brag)

Yes I wish had done it years ago as sadly with back problem been unable do massages for months,
I can fit it in well with our social life and outings.

I gave up full time office work and got partition for solicitor i used gonschool wih when kids were at home, just 3 days week,

Sorry I have droned on!

When I used Have manicures I always had nail art. I like to use tiny gems and paint little flowers, etc love it,! Most ladies like it on big toe only.?

Tough day EGS1's 8th birthday this is the first since E so it's hitting home.

Happy Birthday darling.

Kate's. There is a thread on Beauty which you might find useful. I only read your post because of the picture if your gel nails.
It would be far better for people that are estranged, just do not reply to the negative and deliberately upsetting posters, they are doing it to upset for whatever warped reason. Ignor, communicate with the posters who are genuine, feel sorry for newcomers to this thread for who wants to read such backbiting. To not reply to them at least they can communicate with each other, just look at the names and skip them, I don't read their comments now. I think when you are a genuinely caring person, it takes your breathe away to read such insensitive and sometimes cruel posts to people that are suffering, only someone that is going through that can fully understand.

It's such a convenient job to have-are you mobile or have you got a room at home? I know quite a few beauticians and I know they enjoy having a job they can fit round other commitments.
Personally I like going to a salon-feel more pampered there and it's someone else making tea! Do you do any nail art? There was a nail technician at the salon I use and she did the most amazing nails with 3 dimensional acrylic sculpting. I'll try and find a pic.

I know some people have concerns about gel nails but I've been having mine done for 6 years and they seem to be ok so far. Touch wood!

Which means don't answer to the those with an opinion that differs to what you want to hear.Golly is like girl guides with secret codes.

Yes fairydoll good idea ref your pm

Yes Katek I retrained as a beautician and also as a massage therapist in 2009 and 2010 studying anatomy and physiology to give me something to help me over the estrangement.

I don't do gel nails as they can be damamging,

Yes fairydoll good idea ref your pm

I don't think Bibbity's posts were meant as spiteful,maybe the way they were taken needs some after thought.

Today's 'young mums' are often in their late 30's having had (often still have) careers. They're not little girls to be patronised.

Grannygrace please forgive me! I misread! (There was a head in the way!) I though you were saying my comment was mean. My apologies!

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It's not a mean comment to Bibbity. (Please see her posts,of yesterday!)

She is a young mum who has posted some pretty spiteful comments on here targeted at estranged grandparents.

My point is that maybe, someday, something similar could happen to her.

I would have thought that the majority of people whom have read this thread would have stopped to reflect and then realised that it could happen to any of us. And none of us actually know how we would react if it did happen, despite the some of the smug, self-satisfied comments that have appeared from time to time along with the 'It's all your fault' type of posts.

I'm done with this thread now as I do have enough self-awareness to realise I just ain't getting through.

I don't think so. I've see some disturbing things her. Sharing personal pictures of minors without parental consent. Sharing school, names etc that's wrong and endangering the children they claim to love!

Anything could happen. Should I constantly live my life in fear that this or that could happen? No of course not. I will do my best and thy will be it.

Oh please Fairydoll I know the meaning full well,and see it played out on here by a regular poster. I do not use words I don't know the meaning of,that would be pointless.

You weren't shot down in flames GrannyGrace. I gaveyou the definition of narcissism.

It was the word YOU used! You need to know the meaning of such an emotive description before you suggest it's appropriate on this thread.

Quote fairydoll: It's possible in years to come your life could change, radically. No-one knows what lies ahead. That gorgeous 11 month old you cherish could one day turn his/her back on you or prevent you seeing your grandchildren. Life can be bloody tough and unpredictable sometimes.

And that's not a mean comment you made to Bibbity.

There we go,I post shot down in flames.Can rely on it every time. My opinion is my opinion, self reflection is sometimes a wonderful thing.

Of course she could.
But then again I damn well know I'm not going to do some of the quiet disturbing things I've read on these threads so I have hope.

I've never said anything that I feel was intentionally harmful.
Again if people are genuinely wounded by words they read here. Then maybe the internet isn't for them.