Support for Grans cut-out of AC&GC lives

So sorry, last paragraph put Yogagirls name in twice, haven't slept all night and didn't check before I pressed send.

Sorry about your sons marriage Smileless, no good if it's making them unhappy. It will be lovely having him home again. You can go to town this Christmas. Haven't had an invitation to my sons this year, feel we are drifting apart now his children are getting older, they do everything together and I rarely see them and I can't get them to visit, just have to content myself that he phones regularly and would be here if I needed him.
Celeb, sorry you are still so down after Rosie, you have a lot to look forward to this Christmas with your son, and who knows in the future when you are feeling up to it you might have another dog, you've had a special bond with Rosie, but I find they all have their own personalities and you can love another as much but differently, if that make sense.
Sparkly, Yogagirl can understand how hard it is for you, like Yogagirl, seeing photos of your beautiful gc. Don't think it's a good idea seeking them out on social media, however tempting.

Photos are a painful issue, I dont look at social media posts where I might see photos of est DS and DGC. It took me a while to learn though that it caused me more pain to seek them out on social media.

Starlady and celeb its a difficult one.

Smileless sorry to hear that your DS and DiL have agreed to part.

I winced today in an amused way when 2 ladies on the bus wished each other loudly a ''Happy Christmas''.

Too early, I said, please!!

Well it wasn't all nasty comments smilless, some actually admitted is difficult, then I read old thread round mothers day and they nearly all seeemd find that very hard.

I don't think personally I will ever find birthdays, Mother's Day or Xmas easy it's just what it is.

I have to get my determination back!

Just been a v hard year and so difffcult do you find that smilless and yogagirl to think of all love and care we gave for so many years what was it all about ?

Agh smilless lovely idea.
I did send you pm just going check it went as was dashing out to do pedicure.

I have try stay focusssed

Very sorry about your sons marriage that is always sad but if they are making each other unhappy what can they do.
At least enjoy seeing your son ?

Thank you for the*Yogagirl*. We were aware that they've been having problems and of course it's been a particularly difficult time for our D d.i.l. having lost her father at Easter but it still came as a .

DS really enjoys his job in Aus. and the lifestyle there so he doesn't have any immediate plans to move back here and they both need time to adjust to what's happening before making any more life changing decisions.

Aaah Yogagirl that's what we do, we look at the stars and since our move, not a day has gone by when we don't remind ourselves how fortunate we are to have our new home, and of course one another.

I looked at that thread last night, thought it was familiar and it was started several months ago. Seems to have been resurrected by some one whose post was deleted.

Oooh rather you than me Celeb, taking a look on mumsnet; think I'd rather stick pins in my eyes then read anything on there about estrangement.

Your first Christmas without little Rosie will be hard Celeb but at least you'll be spending it with your DS and his family. You could buy a special bauble for your tree this year in her memory and then she'll always be a part of your future Christmas'.

I must admit I don't feel like getting Xmas tree out or anything just wake up feeling low since losing Rosie,

However I know we lucky to be invite to our sons

Off do elderly lady feet now,

Glad you too have had good weekend smilless

Keep positive yogagirl yes have read that thread also went on mumsnet last night must been bored gosh some nasty types on there.

I do envy you your nice husband Smileless envisaging you both, on your lovely roof terrace, with your lovely new Xmas tree, watching the sky at night with all the twinkling stars, watch out for the shooting stars S & make your wish

Oh Smileless I'm gobsmacked at your news [shocked] Did you see it coming, were you aware? I hear all the time of these lovely couples splitting up, and you think oh no!, they seemed so happy together couples you think will last forever. Then there's our estranged AC, that we are holding our breath in waiting for them to split-up, so we can see our AC & GC again
Lovely that your Son is coming home for Xmas S, do you think he will stay home now, or in the near future, now he is on his own? You never know, if he does & sees more of his brother, it may even enable you to see your beloved GC, if not your estS. Good luck & God bless, for your Son also

'The brainwashing behind AC going non-contact' on relationship forum. Took me 90mins to read, but you should all read it, it is sooo interesting.

Morning ladies. Hope you all had a good weekend. The photo's posted recently are lovely. What beautiful children Yogagirland Celeb it's lovely to see such a happy photo of you and Mr. C, with your DS and his wife; the house looks lovely and they must be looking forward to their first Christmas in their new home.

Thanks for all of your good wishes for Mr. S,'s birthday. We had a lovely meal out on Thursday, met up with 'our girls' on Saturday evening for a Chinese and went to their's yesterday for an evening meal.

It certainly sounds as if you're suffering from stress Rhinestone. The pain seems to build up inside of us and when we're 'full' comes out in the form of stress. Have you tried any herbal remedies? I took Kalms for a couple of years. It took time for them to build up in my system and to feel the effect, but they really did help.

Counting down the weeks until DS comes back for Christmas; just 4 to go. Sadly, he and our lovely d.i.l. have decided to call it a day. They've been struggling for some time now and as sad as it is when a marriage ends, I think it's for the best as it gives them the freedom to hopefully find happiness with someone else in the future. She's a smashing young lady and we'll miss her.

We got a tree for our roof terrace on Wednesday and it looks really lovely when it gets dark and we put the lights on. A bit early but it's just so lovely to be looking forward to Christmas again.

Have a good day everyone.

nearly

Felt better after my 2 yoga classes yesterday, then had a 2 hr meeting with the new manager of one of the Leisure centres I teach my yoga in, was invited to stay for dinner with the other girls, but as I'd been out since 10am & it was early 6pm, I declined. Seem to do quite a lot of declining later

Not having a husband, I have no one to lean on, no shoulder to cry on, I have to keep it together for my ND as I am her shoulder and I don't think it right the other way round anyway. So I'm afraid it's just here that I can 'let it all out'

There is a new thread on here called Brainwashing of AC to 'cut out' so I'm off to read that now.
Have a nice, but wet & cold, day all

So hard is t it rhinestone I found just best if I don't lget it k on Twitter or anywhere likely to find upsetting information.

We had lovely lunch out with v good friends today what a social weekend but I am Still very low over Rosie, our friend is so kind and understanding that made me bit tearful when told her about it ?

Yogagirl much better to think it can only get better!
You have your nd and little Grandaughter to think about at Xmas, please try and let it go. Now after 5 years it will just eat you up feeling sad and bitter towards them.?It's not easy I know.

Rhinestone hope drs goes well tomorrow

Smilless hope you and mr s ok after birthday celebrations

Pictures seem to both help and hurt in estrangement, Rhinestone. You may want to ask dd not to send you anymore photos of gs or not to send ones that also show ess. She means well, but it might just be hurtful.

I think it's normal for you to hate ess under these circumstances, particularly if you're feeling stressed. Sorry you're not feeling well though. It's good that you have a doctor's appointment tomorrow. Hope he can help!

Hi- Yesterday was our little grandsons 7th Birthday. I saw pictures that my DD found and sent me from Instagram. He looks old so big. In the background of one was his father, my ESS. I want to scream at him. Almost three years later and I now hate him. How awful is that?
Feeling a little better but will go to another Dr on Monday. DH says it’s stress.
Have a good day all.

Reading the other threads on here, not even on this subject, it's amazing how many other good & kind Grandmother's say they have been 'cut out' too, for no reason they know of or have been told about

I keep waking too early, these few weeks are proving very hard for me, with the sadness of it all, & then the run up to Xmas on top! Keep thinking about what someone else said on here about it can only get worse

Thanks sparklygran he can be kind and is certainly cuddly bless him we would be in very dark place withOut him.

We could never have predicted the daughter we financed through 4 years at uni and helped buy house etc etc could have been one to cut us off.
Our son was officer in army and all over the place, still is but he has remained loyal, loving and constant to us something we had hoped our daughter would be.??

Life doesn't always turn out as planned.

So very hard sparklygran and yogagirl

I saw comments my estranged daughter made online ref her 2nd daughter and breaks my heart we never seen her, I am best not looking online I'm really am.

We have to accept things won't change and I was getting in fairly good place until sadness of losing our beloved Rosie

Yogagirl gorgeous photo, words fail me on your behalf they are gorgeous, your DGC.

celebgran your photo is lovely, your DS looks kind and cuddly.

Smileless I hope your fur baby's cuts have healed by now.

Luckylegs thinking of you on your DH's anniversary.

This month as well as approaching Christmas and knowing I will not be seeing my estDS and family, its several family anniversaries including both of my dear grandmothers who were wonderful, and a dear cousin who died young 5 years ago.

I feel a bit teary about Christmas and not seeing little faces opening presents, not seeing their excitement and joy.

But I am happy for others who do have their DGC near.

I am off to see some good friends the week after next, looking forward to some fun. Old colleagues.

Thinking of you all

No plans at moment Katek I. Need be fully recovered from my back surgery first but yes desperately miss Rosie house is too empty.

Just wondering *celebgran”-are you going to have another dog? Not as a replacement, you can never do that, but you obviously enjoy having a dog around. My friend was never able to have another dog after hers died 5 years ago and it’s such a pity when there are so many dogs needing homes. She takes in everyone else’s for holidays etc but she would make such a good owner again.

Hi Smileless
Hope you both enjoyed your husbands birthday. You seem, so close, as we were, just happy being together. X?

Hope you and MrS enjoyed his birthday celebration, Smileless, even though it was "bittersweet," as celeb said.

Great photos, celeb and Yoga!