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Am i being taken for granted or is it just me

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Alimarb Sun 29-Apr-18 18:56:52

I have 2lovely daughters and 1 son, they seem to get on quite well, no major problems between them. My problem is that I never see or hear from them unless they want something. We had a lot of input when my youngest grandson was born because his mother is in the military, I've almost gone through empty nest syndrome twice because now she has moved nearby and he has quite rightly moved home. But we never see him, we aren't required to babysit and so are feeling slightly redundant. My other daughter will go weeks without calling, I do call her regularly, but you can guarantee that five minutes into the call she will ask us to have our grandson overnight or collect him from school and we do love having him. My niece occasionally works nights and will phone up with little notice to 'book her daughter in', we never hear from her otherwise. My son lives a distance away and he is much better at keeping in touch but still manages to combine an invitation to stay with a babysitting request. I've just spent the weekend away with daughter number 2 and I'm left with a feeling of having been a really terrible parent. I sometimes feel like running off and at the moment I feel totally inadequate and I don't feel that my children even like me.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 07-Mar-25 21:12:01

This is years old. Why resurrect it? 🤷‍♀️

Bbee13 Fri 07-Mar-25 21:04:57

Good idea. We live in such a self centred world.

Doodledog Fri 12-Jul-24 10:57:26

OMG. How annoying.

crazyH Fri 12-Jul-24 10:25:59

April 2018 !!!!

BigMamma Fri 12-Jul-24 10:19:29

This was an April post, has everything been sorted out.

Doodledog Fri 12-Jul-24 10:17:05

I mean this in the best possible way, but are people saying that their children don't stay in touch sure that this is the case?

If I can describe the situation with my own mother - she is 89 and lives alone, but has an active social life. She volunteers two days a week, has a variety of interests that involve being out of the house, and meets up with friends for lunch and coffee regularly. It's true that she goes out in the evenings less often than before, but she goes to bed at 9.00pm. She often says she never goes out, so I can only assume that she thinks that 'going out' only counts if it is after 7.00pm. My sister lives 100 miles away, but Facetimes her every day. I speak on the phone at least twice a week, and my brother lives abroad, but regularly Skypes.

Meanwhile, she tells me that her cousin's children 'never bother' with her (the cousin). The daughter gets her shopping every week, delivers it and puts it away, sticks post-its on things with sell-by dates saying when they need to be eaten, and generally makes sure that cousin is comfortable. The son and his wife do odd jobs (cut the grass and so on) and keep an eye on things. Cousin's children both work full-time, have families of their own, and don't live on the doorstep. The two versions of events don't tally at all.

This is consistent with other accounts I hear from older people. They say they aren't 'bothered with' (that is always the phrase) when they really are.

I think that things have changed since my mother's day (and her cousin's) when daughters and their mums often lived close by, the women didn't work and everyone shopped regularly in actual shops that they visited on foot. My mum called in on my grandmother several times a week when she went shopping, stayed for coffee and a chat and did little chores that were too much for Granny. My father worked 9-5 and wasn't really involved in our lives in the way dads are these days, so he was free evenings and weekends to do heavier things that needed doing. Plus, that generation were much more able to turn their hands to DIY. My husband is good at that sort of thing too, but my son wouldn't have clue - his generation can solve wifi issues and fix the laptop, but get people in to decorate and so on.

Now that most women work, people don't live nearby and children do so much after school there is less time for visits and 'hanging out'. I don't know if that's what's meant by 'bothering with'. I don't think that people really want to be a 'bother', but it often comes across that way. Another example - my daughter spends ages getting lovely cards made up on Moonpig etc. She gets old photos, thinks up slogans that fit them and are relevant and has them delivered. I am always touched by them, but when my mum gets one she says things like 'Oh, she just got one of those services to send a card'. I don't think it registers that it is as much 'bother' to do it that way as to go to a shop and buy one - it's just different.

I don't have grandchildren (yet, I hope!) but don't understand why people say they love to look after them, but seem to see it as being used when they are asked to babysit. Again, that seems like a mismatch. My Granny never babysat, but we saw her regularly when Mum called in on the way to the shops etc. As that set up probably rarely happens these days, if grandparents want a relationship with little ones they will have to find opportunities to be with them - it's not being used.

Anyway, I'm in no way saying that people are making things up, and of course posters know their own situations. I just wonder whether reframing things a bit would make them happier.

M0nica Fri 12-Jul-24 09:26:42

I think people get taken for granted because they have been too good parents. They have devoted to much of themselves to being perfect parents and always put their children first.

The result is, once, grown the children, just assume that parents are there to provide the back up support for their lives, but otherwise can be ignored. The word we use so often is parents have allowed themselves to be treated as door mats.

The problem is that children actually need some adversity in their lives, they need to know that the world doesn't revolve round them that they are part of a family and families should be mutally supported. I would tell mine quite explicitly that while I and DH would go to great lengths to help them do everything they wanted to do, they also had accept thta there would be times when they would be inconvenienced because we, their parents had aactivities we wanted to do.

Children need, within bounds, 'tough love', it is far better for them, for us and the world around. Perfect parenting is often a synonym for making a door mat of yourself, with all that goes with it.

Urmstongran Fri 12-Jul-24 07:43:02

A thread from 2018!
No wonder I didn’t recognise the names of posters. 🤣

Carenza123 Fri 12-Jul-24 07:27:27

It is important that you cultivate your own interests. Then you will have interesting conversation when you meet your families. Life is very much different today for families and they are much more busier than us grans. It is important that we communicate and to have mutual respect for each other. Don’t harbour a perceived grievance but talk things through.

adenuf1 Thu 13-Jun-24 14:34:52

No she isn't important in their lives anymore. This is what happens when we log onto "Whatsapp". Young people are selfish.

Bekind Tue 25-Sept-18 14:54:23

You have stated my problem exactly! It's been 8 years since my son's marriage and I am still waiting to get a phone call that doesn't include wanting something. I could follow the advice of some and just say "no", but I don't want to lose my relationship with my GC. Besides, I want a relationship with them, too, but seem to be the only one doing any inviting.

paddyann Fri 04-May-18 11:27:26

my son pops in most days ,if his partner is working a back shift he'll raid the fridge for some dinner ..or ask me what there is for eating ,he's been bringing washing while his m/c is waiting for a part,he gets his parcels and signed for mail sent here and his daughter lives with us part of the week .
I dont feel taken for granted ,I feel part of a family .We all muck in and do whats needed and my OH jokes about not having the "daily visit" if we haven't seen S before 7pm.
Of course there are evenings when he comes over around 10 or 11 on his way to pick his partner up from work and has a blether with his dad about cars or just life.
We think we're lucky ,my daughter used to be the same ,now with chronic health problems she's confined to bed much of the time and we'd give anything to hear her key in the door and her shout out whats for eating.
Count your blessings!

gummybears Fri 04-May-18 09:43:28

I am absolutely astounded at the behaviour being described on this thread. No wonder so many folk have troubled relationships with AC if this is how the AC behave. Seriously.

NfkDumpling Thu 03-May-18 13:32:59

Ditto Bez. With WhatsApp I have a lot more contact than I’ve ever had. And mine all left home over 20 years ago.

Alimarb Wed 02-May-18 14:02:15

Debohun I'm so sorry for your loss. I will endeavour to look at things a little differently ?

Bez1989 Wed 02-May-18 12:19:18

IMO ..Whatsapp has become the "Normal" method of communication now that people have SmartPhones...I find nothing wrong with that....At least it means that the "communication door" is open to busy busy people. I find that a message by WA is often followed by a quick phone call between daughter and us. IMO we should welcome the electronic age which can expand our lives for the better.
sunshinesunshinesunshine

Fedupgran Tue 01-May-18 19:36:26

It's sad but it seems to be the norm ! I have a son and DiL and three year old lassie they live four miles down the road and the only time we see if hear from them is when they want something ! I try not to get too upset it doesn't do any good and it only makes me unhappy ! I am beginning to say no on occasions and take control , it seems to help a little ?

KatyK Tue 01-May-18 19:30:01

*debohun's post puts it all into perspective flowers

Lizkat Tue 01-May-18 17:01:39

We have three adult offspring ,all independent and living a distance away.We all keep in touch no-one takes anyone for granted,but they have very busy lives,My thoughts. are with the next stage.If either me or DH get to the time when we need help,I don't feel it would be fair to burden the children with it.I'm really not sure what the answer is,but I have never been a great believer in old age unless it turns out to be pain free wealthy,and all remembering.Sadly this is probably not the future .I feel I have had my time,and now its the children's time..Quality not quantity.

chris8888 Tue 01-May-18 13:41:20

Hard isn`t it, you feel like you are on constant call. I just say sorry I`m busy with friends that day, but could do next week.

Eglantine21 Tue 01-May-18 09:53:40

Oh dear, this is me in reverse not staying in touch unless something comes up. I am a bad mother but I am just so busygrin.
I will text them all now instead of spending my time on Gransnet!

Newquay Tue 01-May-18 09:18:18

Yes I've just scrolled back and can't see a problem Palliser. Don't leave, we all have different opinions, experience etc. Good to share.
I would say I would always jump at any chance to see family. In fact with friends, when making arrangements, we all (those with GC) know that family requests trump everything!
Must though have started to put RSVP on texts to DD2 and older DGD! Lol! Still no replies yet though. . .

icanhandthemback Tue 01-May-18 08:16:24

palliser65, most threads end up being a debate because we all have different opinions. I didn't read your response as being judged, I just saw other people with a different way of thinking to you. They can't help it if they are wrong. wink grin grin

BlueBelle Tue 01-May-18 08:13:39

That should say ‘ or your post ‘ not at

BlueBelle Tue 01-May-18 08:12:56

What have you taken exception to palliser I ve read back and can’t see anything said against you at your post I m puzzled ?