stringvest why on earth should she climb down? He was in the wrong and he needs to apologise and assure her it will never happen again.The lesson to be learned is his ,not hers
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I write a diary when I feel troubled especially when DD , who has BPD, is troubled. Between us we have 5 children but DH ‘s are older and settled in life. My 3 not so. DH is wonderful but things about my DD are difficult to talk about. Anyway , being the trusting soul that I am , I never dreamt that I needed to hide my diary. DH has just confessed he read it and is upset by what he read. There was nothing too terrible in there but these are my private thoughts. AIBU to be upset ? He says he is very hurt !
stringvest why on earth should she climb down? He was in the wrong and he needs to apologise and assure her it will never happen again.The lesson to be learned is his ,not hers
Some things in life are private and diaries are right up there and should not be read without the writer's consent. I no longer keep a diary but would trust that my better half wouldn't read it if I did - your husband shouldn't have invaded your privacy like this - I'd see it as a bit of a betrayal of trust. My better half is great with computers and I know he could easily check what I do, sites I visit etc but doesn't, neither would I consider checking his phone, laptop, e-mails or anything. We get very little in this world that is private, so if people see a diary that's not theirs they should not even pick it up let alone read it - too nosy - and I'm as curious as the next person, but some lines you do not cross. Shame if you need to resort to a lockable and/or password-protected diary!
I agree Lemongrove its difficult to resist. But you have to be able to trust each other to respect privacy. applies to phones and emails etc as well.
An issue that no one has addressed or mentioned is why on earth has Katerina 0822 posted her scenario and comments on this forum in the first place . If she was looking for " support " she has certainly received that - I would like to bet that 100% of commenters who have expressed support are female. So sheprobably now feels more justified (self-righteous ) in her responses. I don't see much sign of her climbing down from this position - which does not bode well -but hopefully they can gradually rebuild some trust and grow closer.between them.
Yes, totally wrong. I would be really annoyed. Why should anyone think they have a right to snoop into your private thoughts?
He is right out of order and, IMO, you should not discuss the contents with him unless you really want to. He has no right to know and probe your innermost thoughts.
I would be furious if someone read mine thats why I urned them ,surely we are entitled to privacy ,at least where our thoughts are concerned .I would never read mail or e-mails or texts so why would I read a diary? I would expect my OH to understand that and I know he wouldn't read my e-mails or snail mail either ,its called respect .
I don't think it's suspecting them of cheating, just natural curiosity about somebody that you love, have lived with a long time and wanting to know everything about them.
I would say it is wrong But! I suspected a partner of cheating once with good reason so I read it. I know I shouldnt have even so. I was right. I wish I hadn't.
However in this case your husband was just curious. Not even half an excuse. No he shouldnt have.
I would never do it again.
Private diaries should be kept in a locked drawer, it's asking too much to leave them lying around.
If I found Mr Lemongroves diary kicking around, I would definitely read it.
I think a lot of wives would, and for a wife's diary, then a husband would be tempted to read it.
Katerina, yes it was very wrong of your husband to read your diary without your permission and no you are not being unreasonable to feel a serious violation of trust has occurred.
Given that you say positive things about your husband and marriage generally could it be that your husband was just stickybeaking and perhaps had not realised the despair and complexity of some your feelings about your daughter's problems? Rather than there being a sinister or abusive motive maybe he is shocked by the hurt and struggles you have written about and doesn't know how to deal with this? He may feel he has failed you and not supported you or really understood the issues you have had to deal with and is now being a bit defensive about having read the diary.
Yes, there has been a significant breach of trust but in an otherwise good marriage can you move on with a clear understanding that reading someone else's private diary is never ok behaviour but perhaps, as the silver lining to the cloud, your husband now has a better understanding of the issues you are dealing with? ?
I suppose I am applying my own standards here. I would not snoop , however tempted , unless I was worried for my loved ones safety or mental health. There is nothing for DH to worry about there. My anger was that I have never had a reason to hide my diary as I always assumed he wouldn’t pry, in the same way that he can trust me. I was also angry that he was hurt by some of the way I had written my thoughts.
starbird the OP stated that there were no marital issues mentioned in the diary that she had not raised face to face.
And EVERYONE is entitled to their own private thoughts. Your partner is not your property they are their own entity.
There’s a lot of talk about trust here. The comments of all those who are horrified at OP ‘s husband reading her diary, would be more than justified if it was a child, parent or sibling, but although their feelings about a spouse being entitled to privacy are justified, on the other hand one could argue that if a couple are happily married, they would share and talk through any problems and not keep secrets from each other. I can understand that a husband might feel disappointed and left out, on reading the diary and discovering that he was not being treated like a helpmate and confidant, but I also understand the motive of the OP in keeping him in the dark and now feeling betrayed.
But I do think it was naive not to hide the diary and maybe the husband saw that as an indication that it was not really private, at least in relation to him.
Perhaps the attitude to keeping a diary is different for women - they are genuinely secret thoughts, but for men the motive might be quite different - they really want them to be read?
I agree that you should not read someone's Dairy but leaving it in sight unlocked is tempting and teasing, if it is private, keep it private and out of sight.
SylviaPlathsister- I am afraid I am not a saintly enough person to soothe his feelings right now.
Good Grief,
It is a two edged sword reading someone else’s deepest thoughts. It probably leads to no good. Even so, I would have great trouble resisting a diary....I am just so curious and interested.
It’s not sinister...it’s something you know you shouldn’t do...but I feel tempted.
I don’t open my husbands mail....but I want to.
All these admirable self righteous people on here. Wow. I am sitting on the naughty step as I write, as I am obviously evil.
The OP husband’s feelings need soothing now....to get everything back on a even keel.
It was wrong of him to invade your privacy. You don't need to justify yourself - you are a person in your own right and entitled to your own thoughts and feelings.
If that upsets someone, well so be it. You don't need to have a conversation to explain yourself. If he wants to ask questions or start a conversation about it then let him do so, but don't allow others to dictate what you should or shouldn't feel/think.
I don't think it would help at all to show him this thread. I am sure it would only fuel his anger because she has shared his action on here. My DH won't even go into my handbag to retrieve his wallet let alone read anything I might write on my computer or phone.
Serves him right for reading something which was private.
He is in the wrong a diary is for your own private thoughts and you obviously trusted that he would respect this I would not be happy about it
I learned my lesson about reading diaries when I came upon my daughter's when trying to retrieve some washing from her room. She was about 15 at the time and I found myself reading some pretty fruity yet fanciful stuff. Thankfully it dawned on me that it was little more than her putting her daydreams and fantasies down on paper. I just dropped it back in amongst the disheveled heap in her room and said absolutely nothing.
We all need somewhere safe to download what's troubling us, we write it with the expectation that no one else will see it so it is always going to be very private and not for other's eyes, its our 'truth' at that moment, as we see it not necessarily anyone else's truth.. Its a bit like the old adage....eavesdroppers never hear good about themselves.
How sad - I was in a (in hindsight dreadful) relationship where my emails were read and I was, generally, spied upon - or made to feel so. Even after many years (15+) I cannot allow myself to keep anything written that might imply I feel unsettled about anyone - however short lived that feeling might be. Yes he is bang out of order and I hope you are stronger than me and can learn to trust .....also that he can prove that he deserves to be trusted!!
Like everyone else, I believe that his actions were WRONG! I hope that you will show him this thread to make him realise that everyone else is in agreement with you. I also think that as he's proved himself unable to be trusted with your diary, you would be well advised to keep a computerised diary in future, which you can protect with a password.
I do hope you can get past this massive intrusion into your private diary.
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