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Rufussmum Tue 18-Sept-18 19:44:03

My DH has always worked away from home and, as we had separate (but very modest) houses when we got together, we kept it that way. I had my own work/friends etc and we would meet up at weekends, usually at his house.
Now about to retire - he is 72 - he wants us to sell both houses and find somewhere together. The trouble is, we have never lived together and I am not sure I want to start now. I am used to my own space and after a few days together I think we were both happy to get back to our own lives.
He is also intent on spending a big chunk of the equity in his house on an expensive boat. This would mean any joint property wouldn't be much better than the ones we live in now.
I am torn between what I suppose I should do (agree to move in together as we are getting on a bit) and facing the fact that the thought makes me feel very depressed.
DH says we can't afford to keep two homes going,
We have been marries for 20 years - second time for both.
Any thoughts please?

PECS Sat 22-Sept-18 09:27:13

Oh dear! He can't have his cake & eat it too!! Go to a lawyer for clear legal advice on your marital and financial options. Think carefully about what you want to make you content in the future and go for it. Good luck ?

FarNorth Sat 22-Sept-18 09:20:40

Oh my goodness, what on earth would you have done if all his true feelings came to light after you had gone down the joint boat idea?
Exactly.
It sounds as if this man has no thoughts for you, only for himself.

Get some financial and legal advice on your situation so that you know where you stand, regardless of what you decide to do in the end.

Auntieflo Sat 22-Sept-18 09:13:33

Rufussmum, I just echo what Apricity has already said upthread. Oh my goodness, what on earth would you have done if all his true feelings came to light after you had gone down the joint boat idea?. He may indeed come back later, very wet tail between his sea legs, begging to be forgiven. Do take extra care, legal advice etc, etc. Sending all good wishes to you for the future.

Blinko Sat 22-Sept-18 09:00:17

So sorry, Rufussmum. I echo what Apricity says. I fear there will be some choppy waters ahead till things are more settled, for you.

Wishing you much good luck and sending good will flowers wine

Apricity Sat 22-Sept-18 08:48:22

Yes, it does seem as though the water rat has finally revealed himself. Horrible for you but good to know now before you have, quite literally, sunk your assets into his boat dreams/fantasies. You now have a good idea where you stand in this relationship. Some hard decisions ahead for you. Please seek some good legal advice as soon as possible and ensure you keep your roof over your head. Some tricky waters and locks ahead, navigate carefully and in a fully informed manner.
Good luck Rufussmum. ?

Molly10 Sat 22-Sept-18 08:23:16

Wow, he has not only shook the boat by that comment but gouged huge holes in it. In my opinion there is no way the two of you could float together forever on that rumble from him.

Stay put and let him sell and do his thing. I suspect a drowning rat will turn up at your door one day. Whether you let him in is your choice.

Best of luck in your new free life.

loopyloo Sat 22-Sept-18 07:16:46

And, Rufusmum, what did you say to that? Sounds a bit like a threat to me. If it were me I think I'd say that's fine. And start to live my own interesting life. My thoughts are with you.

Willow500 Sat 22-Sept-18 07:15:09

Oh dear Rufuss do you think this has been his intention all along? I'm sorry to hear this is his ultimatum sad Just one word of caution on whatever you do decide - someone upthread mentioned capital gains so I would definitely check with a solicitor what the rules would be in your situation. We have two properties and would be liable for CG if/when we sell one unless they both fall under the threshold.

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Rufussmum Sat 22-Sept-18 06:58:04

So, suggested to DH that if he wants to buy the boat it will have to be his 'home' which means at least half the week, every week on the boat. I said I didn't feel ready right now to make a decision about buying a house together and that us both living in my house full-time wouldn't be viable. This house is very small and we would be tripping over each other all the time.
He says as I 'clearly don't want to live with him' he thinks we should get divorced. He feels his life is boring and pointless and the boat will fill the gap.

Shizam Thu 20-Sept-18 23:11:56

Please do not sell your house. If he wants to pursue a boat dream, let him. He can come and live you with after if it doesn’t work out. But it will still be your house!

FarNorth Thu 20-Sept-18 20:42:35

It's a no-brainer really. That's without the whole living-together dilemma. No wonder I am stressed.

If it's a no-brainer, there's no need to be stressed as you know the answer already.

jaclovesdogs Thu 20-Sept-18 19:37:09

I would suggest that you both move in to one of the houses (his or yours) and trial this for a year to see if you can make it work and be happy living together. Once both houses are sold there’s no going back so trial it first.

Madgran77 Thu 20-Sept-18 16:40:33

That is an excellent and very constructive post Day6!

Rufussmum I think, if you do decide to bite the bullet, making sure there is a room where you can retreat is vital. It has been a key part of making my own relationship work ...a bit of my own space is crucial! I do also think that you and your husband need some very honest discussion about money, sharing income and keeping a balance between each others interests etc ….nly you two can work that out together. Your original post made it sound like your husband has got caught up in a dream and has forgotten that there are two of you in this relationship.

I hope that you can come to a satisfactory compromise that works for you flowers

Rufussmum Thu 20-Sept-18 15:12:40

Day6...Thank you so much for such a positive message. It echoes a lot of my thoughts about the possible pluses of living together. I think the boat issue has come to overshadow everything else so you are right, it's time for some straight talking and ultimatums (ultimata?)
I am glad your new life is working out so well for you.

Day6 Thu 20-Sept-18 14:30:19

There are many pluses to being together and I speak as a very independent woman who got very used to being on her own for over twenty years after divorce. Now the children are all grown up with lives of their own, we took the plunge and bought a place together after selling both our homes.

At first I felt I had lost my bolt hole and thought constant compromise and consideration would be extremely difficult.

Now after several years I am glad I bit the bullet. My one piece of advice would be to have a room in the house you can escape to. I like different pastimes and need quiet time away from the TV etc. It's worked out really well I am happy to say and having someone support and love me 24/7 has been an unexpected bonus. We have kept our own interests and friends so I don't feel I have 'lost' anything. Having to do up a home and garden together has brought us even closer. Trust me, I dreaded leaving my nest and I did take a few months to adjust, but now I cannot imagine us living separate lives and our incomes have improved because we only have one lot of bills and upkeep.

I would however have a long hard discussion about the boat. I think he needs to realise his hobby cannot claim the lion's share of the proceeds from the sale of both houses. Have you had a serious discussion about the income you'd get from the sale of both houses?

Have you stopped loving him? Could that be the reason you are a reluctant sharer?

Whichever road you take, please remember, happiness is never guaranteed. I think you both should be thinking about plans and dreams you share when you commit to living together. Then start house-hunting (on line) together so he can see the sort of property you aspire to as well. He might appreciate his boat is a pipe dream?

Time for a few ultimatums I think, so that your lives together will work?

But please, do not throw away a decent relationship if it can be salvaged by just a little tweaking and a bit of give and take. We are all growing older and having someone to share our lives with can be a very good thing. I took the plunge, slightly reluctantly, and I am glad now that I didn't prevaricate. I am sitting alone, with my computer while he does his massive jigsaw in another room. He's just made me a coffee and on such a miserable wet and windy day I am glad (because I have considered your post and it's made me think about my fairly new situation) we are both under the same roof.

Best wishes, whatever you decide to do.

Rufussmum Thu 20-Sept-18 13:34:17

I would be happy to go out on boat on sunny days, maybe for weekends, possibly a week in summer. I never wanted the whole narrowboat experience. Locks scare me, am claustrophobic, hate pump-out toilets and don't fancy sharing a steel tube with snoring/farting OH and two dogs.
It's a no-brainer really. That's without the whole living-together dilemma. No wonder I am stressed.

netflixfan Thu 20-Sept-18 12:20:22

Please don't do it. Stay where you are, where you are happy, and let him stay over now and then. Let him sell his house and by his boat, and rent a little flat. There really is nothing for you in his plan.

JenniferEccles Thu 20-Sept-18 11:55:04

You describe him as a nice man, but I'm afraid that's not how he comes across from your description of the situation.

I think he is a selfish man, and maybe that hasn't been apparent to you as you have never lived together.

'I deserve the best' indeed! Can I ask you something - has he EVER said, or inferred that YOU deserve the best?
I think your reply to that question will be quite telling.

Lolol Thu 20-Sept-18 11:30:16

Don' t do anything until you have lived in his "domain" for at least a month. You say he is a nice man but you have not lived with him in the same house. You may need to find some courage at the end of it. Surely you can have more boat holidays together if you do downsize. Good luck.

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Nannyali Thu 20-Sept-18 10:07:43

Does your husband realise the costs involved with owning a boat ?
We have owned boats all our married life ...... the costs involved are huge .
Purchase depending on size and age etc. Could be up to £100000 for a narrow boat , mooring rent perhaps 6000 a year maintenance at least 2000 a year ......also permits insurance licences etc.etc. The list goes on then when you decide to sell you lose even more money ......they are money pits . Why not just rent one ?

Blinko Thu 20-Sept-18 08:43:14

Hi Rufussmum. I don't find your arrangements odd at all. I know of several couples who each own their own house and 'commute' to be with each other when it suits them. Some are married, some are not. But all are in a long term relationship. Whatever works for you.

I do agree with those on here who advise that if he wants a boat, he sells his house to buy one. You and he can then work out how often you want to meet up and on whose premises.

On no account would I be selling up, in your situation. Good luck, whatever you decide shamrock

jacq10 Thu 20-Sept-18 08:40:08

Your lifestyle has obviously suited you Rufussmum as it has some others. Prue Leith and her husband have the same arrangement (with no money worries I would imagine!!) and they are very happy with it. If it works for you - why change it and obviously you don't want to. Your DH wants to but you really need to follow the advice you have asked for and been given. He must know to change anything would be solely for his benefit.

HannahLoisLuke Thu 20-Sept-18 08:13:48

What Pilgrims hubby said!