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RamblingRosie Sat 03-Nov-18 22:06:15

When my father died, my mother decided to sell the family home and move to sheltered accommodation as the house was costing too much to maintain and was a constant worry to her. She did this with our blessing and enjoyed the last 10 years of her life free of money worries from the sale of the house.
A close friend has recently told me she wishes to do the same for the same reasons, but her children have said she is not to sell the family home as it is their inheritance ( it has been in the family for 2 generations) Her husband left her the house in his will.
Have any other gransnetters experienced the same attitude from their children and is this now becoming the ‘norm’ ?

Dolcelatte Tue 27-Nov-18 10:06:05

I could be wrong but I don’t think that you pay CGT if you give property away, after all you have not achieved a gain, but the property needs to be mortgage free. It is then a potentially exempt transfer for IHT ie totally exempt if you live 7 years, and partially exempt on a sliding scale after 3 years.

Pythagorus Tue 27-Nov-18 08:23:24

If I give anything except my main residence away I will pay capital gains tax now. I love my house and I am staying here. If I keep the rentals til l I die, capital gains tax dies with me. But inheritance tax will be due. Taxman will get it anyhow one way or another. There has always been rental relief to set against CHT if one sells when still alive. But the new budget said from 2020, no rental relief applied before CGT is calculated. So if one wants to offload rental property do one before April 2019 and one after April 2020.
The other thing about giving money away now is that no e of us know how long we will live and whether we will need all of it for care. Also give it to your children and they have a strong chance of divorce. It’s a tricky business.

Davidhs Tue 27-Nov-18 07:50:13

Nothing to stop you giving your main residence away and moving into one of the rentals, you would then need to live 7 yrs to avoid a tax charge. Read the full rules when contemplating this.
That's good planning.

Davidhs Tue 27-Nov-18 07:42:30

Pythagoras
Sons wife has got it wrong, you can only give away your main residence without tax, everything else you pay tax on, rental properties are not counted a trading businesses.
Don't hold it against her, nobody likes paying tax, just be content with correcting her!.
Family politics.

Jane10 Tue 27-Nov-18 07:19:09

absent read the responses. It's all sorted now.

absent Tue 27-Nov-18 04:09:41

So what is the plan for caring for an elderly mother who may reach a point when she cannot fully care for herself? If she is not "allowed" to sell the house – which is, of course, is hers to sell – to pay for her care, are these loving children going to look after her? That is quite clearly not the plan and I think your friend's heart must be breaking.

Coyoacan Tue 27-Nov-18 03:08:47

Just don't accept any food from her.

crazyH Tue 27-Nov-18 00:25:57

Well well Pythagorus......your son had better get rid of his new partner....she probably saw £ signs .....

Pythagorus Mon 26-Nov-18 23:19:29

I have only one son. I have several properties I rent out as well as my own. When I die there will be a lot of inheritance tax to pay. My sons new partner seemed most concerned about this ....... and encouraged me to give properties to my son now. Arent you worried about inheritance tax she asked. No my dear I replied, because I shan’t have to pay it! Terrible when children are greedily anticipating grabbing parents hard earned cash!

FarNorth Thu 08-Nov-18 13:25:34

That is good that her son has thought of how to resolve the situation rather than just expect his Mum to hang on unhappily.
I hope it all works out well for them.

RamblingRosie Thu 08-Nov-18 11:29:10

She is now viewing apartments, so hopefully will have moved by the Spring

Smileless2012 Thu 08-Nov-18 11:29:08

That is good newssmile.

RamblingRosie Thu 08-Nov-18 11:26:03

Some good news! My friend’s son has said he will buy the house as he loves the garden and doesn’t want the house to leave the family. She is getting 3 estate agents to value the property and has organised a loan from the bank to pay for the repairs. I am so pleased for her.

EllanVannin Tue 06-Nov-18 18:17:20

It's terrible when you think of all the poor families who are dreading Christmas yet all some think about is inheritance.
Makes me weep.

PamelaJ1 Tue 06-Nov-18 17:41:57

I’ve heard one or two horror stories too. There are some awful children out there.
Thank goodness I’ve never inherited anything so I don’t feel duty bound to leave an inheritance to my children. We probably will, if we’ve done enough investing but no pressure for us.

Smileless2012 Tue 06-Nov-18 14:07:03

We know someone that happened to. When his wife was alive they signed their house over to their D and 6 months after she died, the D kicked him out.

Wicked doesn't begin to describe such awful behaviour.

maddyone Tue 06-Nov-18 09:28:36

Oh my goodness greengran, what a terrible thing to do, and to their very own parents too. Words fail me.

GreenGran78 Tue 06-Nov-18 00:44:34

I have heard of cases where a parent has sold or given their house to adult children on the understanding that they will be allowed to remain living there. Some of these 'loving' children have then had the parent evicted.

It's difficult to believe that anyone would treat their parent in this way, but it does happen.

FarNorth Mon 05-Nov-18 16:55:50

knickas63, it sounds as if the adult children have monetary value in mind, rather than sentiment.
Who would deal with the renting you suggest? The aged mother who wants to reduce her worries, not increase them?
I'm glad she has decided to do what is best for herself, with her own property.

knickas63 Mon 05-Nov-18 16:35:56

I think if the house hadn't been passed down through the family it would be different. I can see both sides on this one. If they really are desperate to keep the house - could it not be rented out to cover the costs of the sheltered accomodation?

Smileless2012 Mon 05-Nov-18 14:49:23

Thanks for letting us know RamblingRosiesmileif her children aren't very happy with her decision, you can show them this thread and us GN's can take the blame.

Seriously though, I hope her children, now the decision has been made, are supportive.

I've already told DS I've every intention of living to be at least 100 Parsley, should have seen the look on his little facegrin.

Parsley3 Mon 05-Nov-18 14:37:54

A good point. It would serve them right if the parents lived to 100. ?

maddyone Mon 05-Nov-18 09:38:48

That made me chuckle Parsley, with more and more people living into their 90s and 100s, the parents may very well NOT be dead by then, and additionally they may be in care homes and require the money for the fees. So the young people you know may well be disappointed!
Isn’t this sad though, that there are people out there who are looking forward to the death of their parents so they can get their hands on the money. My mother celebrated her 91st birthday recently, my dear old Dad lived to almost 90. My husband’s parents are both 91. Long may it continue. I do worry a bit about the prospect of looking after someone of 100 with myself and husband in our 70s by then, but since it’s some time off, and may never happen, I’ll cross that bridge when it arises. I love my Mum, I do not regard her as a cash cow. She is my dearly loved mother.

Parsley3 Mon 05-Nov-18 09:38:27

My thoughts exactly, MOnica.

M0nica Mon 05-Nov-18 09:32:43

If my children said that to me I would immediately rewrite my will and leave my assets to my grandchildren or take out equity release and spend it.

The money could also be used up in care home fees? They cannot guarantee that some time in the future their parents assets may not be used up by all kinds of other events.