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The Duchess of Sussex and her father

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DillytheGardener Sun 10-Feb-19 16:01:50

Read the latest in sad state of affairs between Meghan and her father today with sadness.

Her letter seemed so reasonable and made good points, her father has behaved in such an abominable way towards his daughter. Rather than pulling his head in after the stupid staged shots he was paid for, apologised and kept quiet till it all blew over he's dug his heels in and embarrassed her time and time again.

I'm not surprised her friends came out in support, even if she did direct it. Has the press no memory of how poor Diana and Fergie were berated and bullied? The idiot rags like the Daily Mail and the Sun are really going for it to make their money. I feel so sorry for her and hope it doesn't affect her pregnancy with all the stress.

I don't understand why the public seem to want her to reconcile with him. He obviously can't be trusted and she's wise to stay well clear, that side of the family is unhinged. Half brother with a DUI and domestic abuse, the other sister seems disturbed, her own daughter cut her off for goodness sakes and by the looks of it for good reason.

Harry was always my favourite, he's a bit older than my two children, but I always felt for him after Diana died. He was such a little mite behind the coffin.

showergelfresh Sat 16-Feb-19 17:02:27

P.S I know its pointless to mention anything to my mum - absolutely pointless.

showergelfresh Sat 16-Feb-19 17:00:39

I love the dysfunctions of the Royal family!

Its one of the brilliant things about them - that they are so imperfect making it okay for the rest of to not have to 'pretend' about our own.

I feel fine just speaking to my mum - aged 93 and sooooo many people berate me - very occasionally on the phone because of Meghan and her dad. Its okay to not like your parents. Its okay to not see anyone with whom you feel like sh ite and who doesn't treat you well.

Thank you the Markles and thank you for letting us all know how it is!

Bridgeit Sat 16-Feb-19 16:58:35

Just as a matter of interest does anyone on GN know which if any country has the best set up for equality of quality of life for all its inhabitants?

PECS Sat 16-Feb-19 16:50:38

paddyann and then people wonder why some of us are republican and not royalist! Inherited privilege will always be with us but the gap between the most and the least needs to narrow!

paddyann Sat 16-Feb-19 16:38:00

how nice is it thatLizzie is giving this struggling young couple the pick of her art collection for their new home.They can choose from Da Vinci's ,Van Goghs and Picasso;s amongst others.
Wonder if all the young families struggling with zero hours contracts or having universal credits cut are jumping with joy about this?Personally it makes my blood boil .Time they were all gone

Bridgeit Sat 16-Feb-19 16:20:33

Annie Where do these ‘facts’come from ?

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 13:34:56

I am not speculating on what is written in the press but on facts .

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 13:18:55

Annie Some are capable of looking at it from all sides . But if one is team Megan then understandable look at it from only one side.

Not at all one-sided, Annie, because I have lengthy experience which means that actually I can look at it from both sides, whereas people who have not experienced being on the receiving end of a man "with issues" can only speculate and hazard a guess.

As I said before, I agree with Anja and Dilly, but you are perfectly entitled Annie to speculate based on what is in the Press. smile

I'm finished with this thread.

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 12:25:14

Some are capable of looking at it from all sides . But if one is team Megan then understandable look at it from only one side.

If he is a man with issues surely a daughter would know so was he wanted at the wedding? Perhaps he would have embarrassed her, she knew this yet he was asked to give her away. I think both are not being truthful.

Anja Sat 16-Feb-19 12:10:18

Nor are they capable to looking at it from that point of view sparklefizz

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 12:07:22

Sorry but I can’t agree that some family may have been there,the press wouldn’t miss them

I am not team anyone, her father may be a loose cannon, he may be a very troubled man, to go from Hollywood to live isolated in Mexico . I think they should have visited him.

Who asks a father to give them away but doesn’t bother to visit him and explain how it works in this country , and how could a suit have been made for him in London? He wasn’t in this country to be measured for a suit.

If family had been invited I am sure the sister would hit out about that, - so and so were invited but not me.

She may have cause to be ashamed of him, yet writes to him addressing him as ‘darling daddy’.

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 12:01:20

I agree Anja.

Anja Sat 16-Feb-19 11:58:18

All I can say is that some people on here cannot imagine what it like to have a father with ‘issues’. Lucky people.

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 11:54:10

Annie There were approximately 800 wedding guests and not every single one was identified in the media. Maybe there were relatives who didn't want the publicity ..... or maybe she just doesn't have much in the way of family! You seem to think that if you haven't heard about it, it hasn't happened, but not everything is in the Press.

I am with Dilly and am still Team Meghan over her father's behaviour. He's a loose cannon.

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 10:09:50

Good grief, a morning suit had been made for him in London ?

The man was so out of his depth, he was wrong to speak to the media but what would he know about ‘the British way’,
He did things the ‘Hollywood way’.

I still think it odd only one member of her family was at the wedding, no uncles, aunts, cousins, godparents, family friends, only celeb friends.

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 09:56:08

Sparklefizz, I think Megan’s friends would have told the world if they had flown to Mexico.

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 09:50:33

PECS He was invited and was supposed to walk her up the aisle, but he began giving interviews to the US media before the wedding, and set up a photo shoot for the paparazzi being measured in a Mexican backstreet tailor's for a suit, although a proper morning suit had been made for him in London in readiness. Then he backed out at the last minute, leaving everyone in the lurch, supposedly because he'd had heart problems and was in hospital, but one of the UK daily papers took photos of him collecting takeaway food whilst he was allegedly in hospital, thus putting the cat amongst the pigeons. Months later he produced what was supposed to be the hospital's medical bill to "prove" his story, but many people pointed out the mistakes in it and that it had been faked.

PECS Sat 16-Feb-19 09:42:09

Because I don't follow royal gossip I am confused. ( easily done) At the time of the wedding I thought dad had been invited but could not attend due to ill health. Is that all nonsense? I only saw headlines confused

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 09:37:33

Annie What I was saying is that we only know what appears in the media. Yes, they DID fly to Africa. Maybe they have secretly flown to Mexico without telling us??

But I am Team Meghan over her father, although I don't particularly warm to her, but her dad has been a nightmare from the start, telling Harry not to knock her about in as many words, putting the phone down on him, etc.

We didn't know until recently that she wrote him a letter last year, did we?

What I am saying is that we don't know how many times M or H have reached out to her dad because they haven't said.

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 09:20:18

Sparklefizz. The fact is they did flying to Africa but didn’t fly to Mexico, that no one knew has nothing to do with it, they ignored the father .

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Feb-19 09:14:02

Megan and Harry had no problem flying to Africa for a holiday but no time to fly to Mexico.

We don't know that, though, do we Annie? The Press weren't told when Meghan flew out to see her Mum and best friend, and it was only revealed later on.

Anniebach Sat 16-Feb-19 09:09:50

If Megan and Harry hadn’t ignored the father things may have been so different.

Living a quiet life in Mexico, no knowledge of what was expected of him, his working life had been in Hollywood.

Megan and Harry had no problem flying to Africa for a holiday but no time to fly to Mexico. .

Iam64 Sat 16-Feb-19 08:33:07

Come on PECS, don't try and introduce reasoned rational debate about prejudice grin

PECS Sat 16-Feb-19 08:17:55

Oh dear! I am a republican but
I do not wish harm to members of royal family .
Their multi national family heritage is not why I am a republican. Being German should never be used as a derogatory term. That would be certainly be racist in my mind.
Being a Nazi is right to criticize. That is a choice though for many ordinary people, in Germany, pre & during WW2, resistance to the the prevailing force was hard and dealt with severely. Many non- Jewish Germans were also shot or incarcerated in death camps if they opposed the Nazi policies. Compliiance by fear.

Gettingitrightoneday Sat 16-Feb-19 08:10:52

You cannot help who your relatives are. Its not fair to lay all the blame on Meghan.

How many ordinary people have familes have problems and problem relatives?

The press are nasty because they make money out of other peoples difficulties. And they wash other peoples laundry in public. This issue is about the behaviour of Meghans father nor her.

Living in the the Royals must make life difficult for anyone. No peace and privacy as Diana found.