The Duchess of Sussex and her father

I think you might find some Dutch and Austrians in there...

Why is being German a crime in 2019,

Anne Frank, Schindler, and Brahms, Mozart, Mendelssohn,
Beethoven, all German to the core.

"German to the core" - yet paddyann if I saw a Scottish person who was drunk and said "Scottish to the core" - you would, quite rightly, be up in arms.

Wow paddynan - your dislike of the monarchy is well known but, "German to the core". What a peculiar criticism.

PECS I thought Christmas trees were brought here by Albert but seems there were German soldiers in hospital in this country and this was the first time they were brought in but their popularity started with Prince Albert.

I thought Xmas trees were down to Prince Albert

We cannot choose our ancestors I agree and the sins of the fathers should not be a burden.. unless you choose to carry them on! However Philip does not have a reputation for being a sensitive sort of chap!

So, someone's ancestors were Nazis and the family have family traditions that are German. So what? There must be thousands of British families with a background like that.

Let the family that is without any embarrassing ancestors, or even embarrassing relations alive now, throw the first stone.

Phillip’s sisters married Germans .

Phillip’s mother is buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, she was bestowed the title ‘Righteous Among Nations’ by Israel for saving the lives of Jews in the Holocaust.

‘They celebration Christmas on Christmas Eve, the German way ? what rubbish, we all have Christmas trees , this custom was brought to this country by German soldiers in the 19th century , so ‘ the German way’.

German to the core ? what a post so full of hate .

nice lot.

Nazi sypathisers on Both sides of Lizzies family lILY65 ,Phils family all proudly marched in Nazi uniforms,Lizzies mother taught her daughters the Nazi salute ...all on photographic/film record .German to the core, even now when they celebrate christmas the german way on christmas eve .

I think you have a poor grasp of how the media world works Annie !

Wasn't Edward a Nazi?

PECS

You cannot include Edward, he had abdicated, the public didn’t want him to, he had to be the baddy to make his brother the goodie, this wasn’t the press, it came from on high,

The Charles and Camilla tapes and the Diana and James Gilby tapes were sold to the press, there conversations were private.

Fergie ? We had the Papps then brought about because of Diana

The bulimia and arguements ? Fed to the press by Diana

Margaret ? Not a wise decade to have a toy boy and take him to her holiday Island

With the exception of Edward , that was political, Diana opened the door to the paps ,

What of Kate Kent, Alexandra ? They were very much in the public eye, carried out royal engagements, never a mucky headline .

Of course they can Annie they can see who generates responses and interest and sells papers/ brings hits and then keep going!
Re headlines:

Edward VIII & Nazi links?

What about the "secret " Charles & Camilla phone conversations?

Princess Margaret's escapades in the Caribbean?

The toe sucking incident with Duchess of York

& endless disclosures about arguments. bulimia etc etc in the run up to C &D divorce

it happens all the time!

I don’t think the media can build up a member of the royal family, they are world famous from birth.

If we think of the members of the royal family who have carried out public duties over the years the majority have never hit the headlines and never sought the headlines.

I refer to it as ‘dancing with the devil’, once headlines are sought there is no turning back.

Exactly GrannyGravy13. I'm not a Royalist though maybe I could be found guilty of that, as I prefer the Queen to anyone I could think of to be our head of state.
I enjoy the pomp and ceremony when I visit London and find myself watching all the Queen's horses and all the Queen's men progressing.

I have adult children and groups of friends who are the same age as William/Kate Harry/Meghan - I've seen them go through all the fun/horrors that go through growing up and eventually becoming responsible young people with children of their own. I wish them well and I'm relived none of them live in the spotlight of a media that loves to build people up, only to destroy them.

They have this every day!!

We have a friend who has a recognisable face so you could say they are “a celebrity” due to their career.
We went to a small local restaurant with them and 2 of our children. It made for an uncomfortable evening with people constantly coming up and asking for photos or just talking about our friend in a loud voice. I would not want to be a “celebrity”.

I agree Charles was concerned and I think Will and Kate seem far more regal and dedicated to the cause - probably because William and George are heirs to the throne.

I find Harry and Meghan a pain, have always thought Beatrice and Eugenie should work and generally have little time for them. I suppose they are the Queen's grandchildren so they will always have prominence. Anne had the right idea for her children I think.

If only more royals would behave like the Wessex family - Edward and Sophie and their children.

I am just having a moan really. I loathe celebrities, and wonder why some have become famous. I try to avoid all celeb news. I see Harry and Meghan as no longer crucial to the set-up, and more like a celebrity couple.

There are only 4 young royals now Day6 and I think William is trying to fulfill his role , he has never played to the camera , the opposite in fact. His children are not paraded for the cameras as he and his brother were.

Charles has pared it down

Iam64 - perhaps you didn't read this bit of my post?

Royals have had celebrity friends in the past but in those days, discretion was the name of the game and social circles were known only to the aristocracy.

Modern society - social media, hacks and paparazzi give us a view of royal life and an alien just arrived would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the royal family living it large, and celebrities doing the same thing and being part of royal occasions.

My point was, if the royal family has just become a partying, celebrity bunch of extremely wealthy, indulged youngsters who occasionally open something, there is a strong case for them all to pack their bags and go and live in Hollywood and fend for themselves.

The House of Windsor is becoming more and more irrelevant. Like the Clooneys, perhaps they should be paying for their own security? Their in-your-face life of privilege, paid for in part by the taxpayer, is beginning to rankle. The monarchy has to be severely pared down, imo.

Doesn’t matter what money or life you lead,a lost parent is going to hurt the same for everybody

Just had that for lunch, JE

Or cheese on toast with a splash of Lee and Perrins merlotgran !!

Lovely gown but it's a shame it made her look like she'd had her breasts bound. Kate has a nice figure even if she is extremely slim.

Well done, Camilla for highlighting the importance of a balanced diet and keeping fit to help keep osteoporosis at bay.

Having lost both her mother and grandmother to the disease she is right to be concerned about the lack of calcium in faddy diets.

Three cheers for a cheese and pickle Ploughman's