Withholding Sex

It must be nice for the woman in question to have you as a friend, rosecarmel.
You are so logical and straightforward.

For those who don't know, BS = bovine excrement. Nuff said.

She would not be being manipulative, she would at last be seeing the light ,taking to the hills , glad to not have to ‘perform ‘ in order to maintain the status quo in being cared for as long as she comes up with the goods.!
If she cannot for fear of violence or control this is so difficult but with more help & support available it can be done.

Becontree or Upney, N&G - beyond Barking!

Why did people ‘taking a stab at it’ help? rosecarmel ?

Help what exactly ?

You could while away the hours
Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain ..

And your head you'd be scratchin'
While your thoughts were busy hatchin' if ...

You and me both Bathsheba

Heavens, I've just opened this thread, read it through, and have come to the conclusion that I've landed in a parallel universe

This is all frankly bonkers.

I'm just as puzzled by your popo, fifth degree, Spanish Inquisition style questioning!

Then is it too much to ask for comprehensible English?

That's ok -

I think all this is a bit weird.
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Mawbroom, I'm just as puzzled by your popo, fifth degree, Spanish Inquisition style questioning!

Can't say others got what I attempted to be seeking but took a stab at it anyway -- which I appreciate! It helped!

Davidhs Your posts make me laugh out loud. I cannot believe you genuinely think like this in 2019, so it has to be a wind-up.

But then............<sigh>

What did you hope to achieve by opening a discussion in this way?
If you don’t know why you started the thread, how on earth can anybody else?
And are you happy to explain the phrase I still don’t get
I call BS but surely I could be mistaken
Who or what is “BS”
Please?

I’m with you on this one Maw
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Mawbroom, I don't know what lies behind my question- You're one step ahead of me if you're puzzled by what lies behind it! Can you sort of kind of describe what's puzzling you? Perhaps collectively as a group we can bring whatever it is into view?

David .. I cannot respond kindly!

“Deliberately offering sex in order to get a favour is manipulative behaviour.“

Of course it is but in the nicest possible way that’s one of the ways that women manipulate men, the other ways include food and companionship.

There is clearly a difference in “denying” sex as opposed to just literally not being bothered. PS “disinterested” does not mean “uninterested”.
I am just puzzled by what lies behind your question.
I also don’t understand I call BS but surely I could be mistaken

Mawbroon, I think I was making an effort to see if there is any distinction between withholding sex and disinterest in sex - Both result in no sex-

It's always good to elicit and consider different opinions -- either when one isn't sure or certain one's view is correct ..

OK, most women know the best way to get favour is to be more amorous not less

Cool, a 21st century metro sexual is amongst us

I still don’t get your point.

I agree with Day6 completely-

I've a close relationship with the wife in the OP-
If sex worked on a reward system she'd have a private island by this time -- but they (as a couple) haven't a pot to piss in due to the unhealthy dynamic of their relationship-

She's reached her limit, is examining the impact her enabling has had on their marriage but is also being expected by her husband to shoulder his manipulative personality as well -- as in "fix him"-

She is exhausted - The very idea of having sex turns her off - Which is why I cannot view her disinterest as manipulative, even if her "wanting" a healthy marriage is in part why she is turned off -- as in because she doesn't have that-

At the same time she's afraid of losing him- And given his narcissistic personality she knows losing him is likely-

Deliberately offering sex in order to get a favour is manipulative behaviour.

Where is this thread (meant to be) leading?