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Tillybelle Thu 20-Jun-19 18:32:54

As we hear that the two Princes are splitting their Charities and the Sussex' Charity will become independent, what do you think has influenced the decision to make this major difference in their approach to a very important area of their lives? How do you feel about their decision to work independently?

Carillion Sat 22-Jun-19 12:54:30

I've been reading this thread with great interest because I love to see the sibling closeness between W and H.
I have a very personal perspective on this from a point of view of their closeness because my sister and her husband died in a car crash in 2001 leaving my nephew (then aged 13) and my niece (then aged 3). We gave them all our love and care but the closeness between the two was stronger than anything, even though there was a ten year age difference. No matter how much love and nurture nothing could replace the loss of their beloved parents and today they have grown into two fine young people.
They each are in steady relationships and there are ups and downs but there remains between them an unsaid, unbreakable closeness which I am firmly convinced will always be there, ultimately, no matter what. I am very proud of them and am sure the brothers W and H will have a similar bond.

Anniebach Sat 22-Jun-19 12:22:51

Framilode , I agree . How long has the close friendship between George Clooney ,American film actor, and Megan ,
an American Canadian tv actress been .

I cannot see any reason why she did not introduce Harry to
her father. He released a letter she wrote to him , began with
‘Darling Daddy’. They flew to Africa for a holiday shortly after they met but didn’t fly to Mexico.

Tillybelle Sat 22-Jun-19 12:04:56

I am very struck by how my question has led to a lot of discussion about the marriage of Prince Harry. I had no idea that people would digress to this from the subject of the announcement of the splitting of their Charity. You will see that my question didn't mention anything except that.
I believe that as far as the management of the public Charity is concerned it is a matter of public interest. It is not anything like people gossiping in the way Eloethan says but I imagine she was referring to other comments by people here.
It did surprise me that BBC Radio 4, when announcing the division of the Charity, spoke of a disagreement between the two wives of the Princes. That they said this shocked me.

Framilode Sat 22-Jun-19 11:53:13

I agree Anniebach. I read somewhere that Meghan lived with her father for quite a few years, and he paid all her school fees etc, because her mother took off and lived in a hippy commune. Apparently her and her father used to be very close. I do think she has form for cutting people out of her life when they no longer suit her needs.

Anniebach Sat 22-Jun-19 09:57:46

I so hope the marriage works, Harry is already a troubled man

sarahellenwhitney Sat 22-Jun-19 09:51:21

Re any speculation Prince Harry is 'not the man he was' ?Wasn't Kate given the 'waiting game'.?How long was it before Prince William placed the ring on her finger.?
If Harry had gone the same 'route' would have put both himself and Meghan of an age where many are GP's not expecting their first child?.
Harry had claimed to have wanted children.Love at first sight can work ? and Harry, unlike his brother, was most unlikely to ever become king so what was to prevent him marrying a woman he barely knew .Both he and Meghan had observed life, but in totally different worlds.
It is inevitable that 'cracks' will appear. Lets hope for Harry's sake these cracks will heal.






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Eloethan Sat 22-Jun-19 09:31:06

If you saw two neighbours in your street recounting what they had heard from various third parties about a family up the road you would call it gossip. And if their conversation consisted of unpleasant rumours, it would surely be worthy of the description "malicious"

Anniebach Sat 22-Jun-19 09:04:24

It was playing games with the media that killed Diana

PamGeo Sat 22-Jun-19 08:54:16

History keeps on repeating itself when the media and people's short term memory are put together.
Isn't this type of rubbish the same rubbish as Diana and Fergie after their marriages ? All the fun and games became a comparison of who was more popular, glamorous, 'royal', acceptable etc etc etc
It was the media, paparazzi that caused the accident that killed Diana in the first place.
IF, just IF they don't all agree all of the time does it matter ? if the charities benefit from the changes they are putting in place thats got to be a good thing right ?
Megans relationship with her mother looks like a very solid one to me so if there is a problem with her dad maybe it's because there's a problem with him as a dad. Maybe that's why he's not still married to her mum, maybe that's why he's not in her life, maybe that's why he feels the need to go on tv and in the newspapers to justify himself and his behaviour because his daughter doesn't love him enough . Maybe he is a dick ? a narcissist ? a pathological liar ? a spoilt brat who likes things his own way ? or a very misunderstood individual ? I don't know confused
I do know that Harry is a fully grown man who seems to know his own mind. I do know someone who was in the army and served with him that speaks well of the man he is and his character . I put more faith in that mans judgement than I do the media that's for sure.
I would hate, absolutely hate my life to be scrutinised as theirs is because I wouldn't look good. I'd be overweight, nipping out to the shops for milk for my morning cuppa looking disheveled ('cos it's 2 minutes away and I don't function without my cuppa ) and I'd be labelled as unorganised and chaotic at best. We won't go into family relationships and the lively nights out over the years, last nights was watching The Dead South in perranporth which was fantastic by the way
Stop believing the media hype and slow the frenzy of speculation and gossip , be kind to other females

Anniebach Sat 22-Jun-19 08:43:44

How do you know it’s malicious gossip OmarfofMaya ?

Aepgirl Sat 22-Jun-19 08:15:47

Meghan.

Theoddbird Fri 21-Jun-19 18:30:35

None of our business... Brilliant to diversify...cover more ground than concentrating on one or two things I don't care what the reason is but do think it a good idea

OmaforMaya Fri 21-Jun-19 18:19:36

And you all KNOW the intimate lives of the Princes and their wives....oh sorry you believe everything you read in the press and on the internet ...which in a lot if cases originates from USA journalism. Please give these two young Royals and their families a rest from malicious gossip.

Anniebach Fri 21-Jun-19 17:23:26

The two women have nothing in common. Kate is country,
Megan is town.

Can’t imagine Megan visiting farmers and trying her hand at shearing sheep, or helping to design and plant a garden .

Kate accepts she is part of a working family, not the centre of the working family, very much like Anne.

I remember a tv interview Anne gave when she was young speaking about criticism, ‘ they wanted a Princess but they got me’

SirChenjin Fri 21-Jun-19 17:21:23

nahsma I agree. It's time to scale the royal family right back and the wealth and privilege that goes along with it imo - it has no place in the 21st century as it currently stands.

Missiseff Fri 21-Jun-19 17:07:58

Don't give a stuff.

luluaugust Fri 21-Jun-19 17:06:37

I would imagine that it is very difficult to get all their diaries to fit in with each other and now Harry is married and has his own interests and charities it is the easiest way to work separately. So many charities and events want royal involvement and there are only so many of them doing royal duties to go round. I feel somebody is out to get Kate, I guess the two women see very little of each other and probably just get on or make the best of it when they meet. Their backgrounds are so different they probably wouldn't have chosen each other as friends in the real world. I am sure Archie is adorable but I am amazed that after that awful photo there isn't a rumour going round about the bottom half of his face!

JenniferEccles Fri 21-Jun-19 16:50:49

I agree with Day6* Whatever his faults might be Thomas Markle is still Meghan's father, and I think the way she has treated him by completely shutting him out of her life tells us everything we need to know about her.

Once Harry's 'besottedness' (if there is such a word!) has worn off I think he will see his wife for what she is.

Yes the baby pictures are so peculiar. They remind me of how Michael Jackson used a blanket to completely cover his youngest child when he was a baby.

Perhaps Blanket would be a good nickname for the Royal baby grin

ReadyMeals Fri 21-Jun-19 16:22:39

nahsma, our democratically elected members of parliament between them support the existence of the monarchy in its current form and have decided it works best for the country pretty much as it is. If you don't agree, then you need to vote for an anti-monarchy candidate or at least one who thinks that having no more than two full-time royals is best. There is no point criticising the individuals or the family, who are simply behaving as democratically agreed.

nahsma Fri 21-Jun-19 16:05:46

Really? Really? Who really cares? Four stupidly rich, vacuous upper class leaches. Why don't they get proper jobs? William had one, I understand, but jacked it in to sponge like the rest of them. Their Universal Credit seems rather more generous than that of other jobless of their age. I have no objections to the monarch, or her direct and immediate heir, but the rest of them are unnecessary. Putting on tin hat and running for the bunker.

Milly Fri 21-Jun-19 15:02:13

Although I don't hold a torch for Harry I have started to feel sorry for him since his marriage. I fear its bringing him more problems than he'd envisaged.

Paperbackwriter Fri 21-Jun-19 14:43:35

The press would LOVE us to think the women don't get on. Because obviously two women married to a pair of high-profile brothers "must" be rivals. I doubt we have any clue whether they do or don't. I don't care either way. As for splitting the charities - seems the logical thing, the grown-up thing to do.

Summerstorm Fri 21-Jun-19 14:26:45

Not really related to op but what is with the ridiculous baby photos, a foot, a few fingers, half of his face. Personally think it’s all because Megan a bit of a diva, which could also be why the split in charity status. She strikes me as being a bit” it’s my way or the highway”. However not being a royalist in any way at all, it could be the highway as far as I’m concerned

Day6 Fri 21-Jun-19 13:48:00

and although she acts as an ambassador for mental health she hasn’t helped the mental health any of her dad and the kind uncle who helped her career at the very beginning.

Good point Urmston.

Again, we don't know the whole story but I felt incredibly upset that his Mr Markle has been totally side-lined by the daughter he supported, loved and had contact with until Meghan met Harry.

That he hadn't even shaken the hand or spoken face to face with his future son-in-law before the wedding speaks volumes. That Meghan could not have engineered a secret, private healing meeting and given him a chance to meet Harry is astonishing.

I loathe family rifts and think of myself as a peace-keeper - fallings out are soon mended - but Meghan ditched her family when she started to move in exalted circles.

I think that is why I cannot take to her. That the Clooneys have suddenly become her best friends (A listers in Hollywood - Hollywood 'royalty' even, befriending an actress best known for a Canadian soap opera/series) makes me wonder too about social climbing , hers and theirs, and easily ditching the baggage (her family) of her previous life.

I wonder if Harry is happy (not sure why I should but as Tillybelle wrote, I had my children in the Diana era and had a rocky marriage and divorce to live through too, so I had much sympathy for her and delighted in her closeness with her sons and her less stuffy way of bringing them up/showing affection, etc. She broke the royal mould there.)

I wish Harry well and wish he and Meghan happiness, but I have my doubts that theirs is a 'forever' relationship. His closeness to his brother is, however, and I hope behind closed doors they are still the best of friends.

Elvive Fri 21-Jun-19 13:30:32

Kate is , in my humble opinion, genetically slim. But assuming the camera adds 10lbs, she must be very very thin.

Of course it could be that I am jealous.