Wondering if dgd has ocd

My grandson was like this, and he is fine now.
A big strapping lad who isn't bothered about anything much.

It struck me straight away when I looked at your user name' anxiousgran' does anxiety run in your family.
It does in mine.

hi, my AC are autistic, some of the earliest signs were constant throat clearing, they are adults now so can explain it to me but for them its a sensitivitiy that means they don't like phelgm in their throats. The sound on Tv being an even number is also something that bothers them. you can have autistic traits, or just sensitivities. Best to have an expert opinion as you can handle things in specific ways depending on diagnosis.

N I cannot say if this is OCD or not, but as a retired teacher I feel from your description that something is worrying this child.

Sudden tummy aches etc are often a child' s way of expressing anxiety and being upset if her writing and drawing is not perfect could point to the fact that someone has made her feel that she isn't good enough at school or at home.

I think you should encourage your daughter to have a word with the school - children are not always kind to one another, and school teachers sometimes make remarks that hurt. Being afraid to get dirty could be because the relationship between dirt and illness has been mentioned at school and misunderstood.

At your granddaughter's age, I came home from school one day and said we would all die unless a window in every room was kept open, as we would use up all the oxygen in closed rooms! "Teacher said so!" She didn't of course, she said that with 24 girls in a small classroom we needed the windows open for five minutes or so at regular intervals during the school day.

Many of us have mild OCD traits at stressful times in our lives. OCD is about feeling safe and rituals often make people feel safer in their environment or in certain situations .

CAMHS stands for Child and adolescent mental health service.

Ran this one passed my daughter ,who is a child behavioural psychologist, working in the school environment. She thinks that one explanation could be the father who is Over anxious about dirt/ noise/ behaviour and is passing it on to daughter. Have a quiet word if I were you before her behaviour is fixed!

My own GS had similar behaviors when he was about four or five. I remember one incident where H poured a bit of milk to his macaroni and cheese in order to cool it. He went berserk and refused to eat it until I prepared him a new one. His socks had to match his shirt and "Fidi", his favorite teddy bear couldn't sit on his bed unless it was next to "Bruder" the stuffed dog. If this condition wasn't met, he would become very upset, even unconsolable at times.

Today, he is sixteen, doing well in school and overall a very well adjusted, mature teen. No signs of OCD or any other such disorder.

My gd went through a stage of clearing her throat that stopped and then it was sniffing. That has stopped now too.
She was never good at drawing or painting and maths. She would get very tearful and put herself down, she also had an invisible friend she was about 7 when this all started she also saw a ginger haired lady in her bedroom.
She end up going to camhs and does suffer with mental health issues but she had a trauma in her life which brought all the above on. She’s now 18 but still has anxiety attacks.

OCD is an extremely debilitating illness. We know someone with this and he is unable to work.

Having 'a touch of OCD' is just not the same thing at all.
Being precise and meticulous is an asset in many occupations and some people are more so than others, even from an early age.

Anxiety in a child needs to be addressed, however, in a way that does not make the child even more anxious. As someone said earlier, she is making sense of the ordering of the world, making sense of her environment and exercising some control over it.

Do your DS and DIL tend to be 'helicopter parents', organising her day for her? Perhaps she just needs to be allowed to play, get messy, use her imagination and behave like a little child of six and not to worry if she gets dirty.

Gabriella.You seem very defensive about all of us being somewhere on the Autistic Spectrum. There is no disgrace in it at all. I worked with Autistic children for many years and Ido believe we all have some traits . ,however small. Perhaps you have never met anyone who is Autistic.
They have many problems ,but are very interesting people and all different,just as we all are.

Anxiousgran CAMHS is the child and adolescent mental health services, accessible I believe through GP or school

I'm with Gabriella on this.

If all human beings are on the autistic spectrum to some degree that means there is no normal by which to judge whether or not someone is autistic.

I think this child should be referred to a doctor for assessment.

As I have said on another thread, if a child was showing a few odd physical symptoms, frequent 24 hour temperatures, being sick after a meal several times a week, for example, no one would say, do not see the doctor, do not worry, children grow out of these things. We would recommend that the child see a doctor in case these symptoms ar an indication of something more serious.

We should react in exactly the same way with behaviour like this. As B9Exchange has pointed out, these symptoms could be the result of a 'real' illness and can be treated with antibiotics.

So, anxiousgran my advise would be for the parents to talk to the GP , take the child to see them and see if they can have a psychological assessment (and also mention PANDAS if appropriate).

We were recommended to take our son to an educational psychologist when he was 4, the assessment and advice that followed was enormously helpful and stilled our worries about him and guided how we dealt with the behaviour that had concerned us.

DS has a long term condition that I have found out (on google?) that can lead to OCD. I think I will encourage him to ask his specialist nurse about it. It might make him think about some of his hang ups.
I’ll also talk about him about dirty play. For dgds.
Have found some books for worrying children that might help dgd.
Thanks for all your gentle.replies. Sorry, I didn’t look at them yesterday, thought the thread might have come to an end.
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