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NannyKisses Fri 07-Feb-20 17:09:28

My 34 yr old married Daughter has said she will come to Butlins for an adult music weekend. I said I would pay.
She HAD to ask her husband & he said yes then 2 hrs after I had paid for it he changed his mind & said she can’t go & she’s doing what he said.
Even though she invited her longest friend who mum is my longest friend so they aren’t happy with her either.
Iv been asking her everyday for 2 weeks if she will please come

Then I said it’s not fair that I still have to pay as she’s not going & I would like her husband to pay me back as it due to him that she will not come I also said if she can get her husband to change his mind or if we find another person to take her place I will give her the money back
She said she didn’t have the money so I said she could pay me back in instalments. After that text she’s blocked me.
I’m so hurt because this will be my last big birthday I have so many illnesses but I just wanted to spend the weekend with my Daughter my best friend & her Daughter who we have been friends with for 30 yrs my friend & her Daughter have asked her to
What can I do
He just wants us to not get on
We have had years of off & on bad relationships between each other. But her husband said she shouldn’t even want to see me because Iv upset her in the past ( as she has me very much) I
Believe in keep trying until you can try no more. And the past 6 months have been great between us
My Daughter has no relationship with her Dad but she has tried to over & over. When she was a child he said some very very sexual inappropriate things to her & he touched her breast she was 11 yrs old. His whole family disbelieved her except for her Aunt & Uncle. Then 7 yrs they got back in touch
And my Daughter has travelled 600 miles round trips in several occasions to see him to hopefully get an apology from him which he has never given
They have allowed him in their house & he’s traveled to where they live for a weekend twice
Her husband has allowed her to try & have a relationship with him but not me & this breaks my heart terribly. Why would her husband drive so far to see him after what he did, why how could he shake his hand how can they let their 2 little girls be around him.
Her Dad doesn’t even care about any of them. He gives a little birthday & Christmas money Iv done & do so much for my Granddaughters I love them more then life I love my Daughter so much too. I just can’t get my head around it & her husband hates me & my Daughter promises me that he isn’t controlling he’s a good husband & she must put him first.
Is there anything I can do.
Please help xx

BlueBelle Sun 09-Feb-20 15:54:03

Dear nannykisses you have had really good advice on here but you won’t see it because youre so intent on thinking only you can save this situation
Please go to the weekend with your friend forget everybody except yourself for that day or two
If you want ask the granddaughters to tea to have a little celebration either before you go or after you come back forget your daughter and son in law for now
You are obsessed and obsessing and it is driving you and them crazy which is why your son in law is trying hard to distance themselves
I really really wish you could see this as others are seeing it
Take care you sound so vulnerable

Hithere Sun 09-Feb-20 12:55:30

OP

You are obsessed with your dd and gc.
You have made them your world and place unreasonable expectations on them.
Your sil may see that and he is trying to stop it.
It is very unhealthy to make somebody else responsible for your feelings and happiness.
Your dd is still trying to feed into this cycle but sil intervened twice to stop it.

M0nica Sun 09-Feb-20 11:39:22

Nannakisses I said you were the third in the marriage, because, although you justify your actions by saying that you must always be there for your grandchildren, and in principle I agree, but at the same time there is providing a separate oversight and digging your self into the family to do what you call protecting, which is damaging to all.

Right at the start of your OP, you say of the planned weekend away Iv been asking her everyday for 2 weeks if she will please come Later you say When I do & have done EVERYTHING to help them all as a family & individually debts place to live big expensive presents & lots & lots of love, then I tried that I paid for a counsellor but they wouldn’t go sometime later I paid for a mediator which they came to we signed the agreements we had both agreed to. Then with weeks he went against what he had signed that he had agree

Quite simply, can you not see that all you say means that you are far too present in your daughter's marriage, and, as a result, they treat you like dirt - and you say that yourself.

Please, please distance yourself from your daughter and her husband. You can actually help your grand daughters much more by being less involved. As I said in a previous post. If you do, they will probably either shape up, which will be good for your grand daughters or collapse and separate, which will also probably be good for your granddaughter.

However the most important way you can look after them is being hyper vigilant about them seeing their maternal grandfather and not hesitating to contact social services or the NSPCC, if you think there is any chance of contact between them, whether their parents are present or not.

But do what others recommend, ring the Samaritans, A close friend has been a samaritan for over 40 years and I know their infinite capacity to provide both a listening ear and provide you contacts for support.

Hithere Sat 08-Feb-20 22:47:06

I am so sorry you have so much on your plate.

Your update describes multigenerational abuse.
I agree with others you need professional help.

Coinselors concentrate on what you can do to improve, not on others around you.
The comment you mention could have been taken out of context.
It is clear you need a new counselor. The one you have now is not working.

Summerlove Sat 08-Feb-20 22:33:03

I have counselling & even the counsellor said she would find it to go on if she had my problems & health

I’m sorry your daughter has cancelled on you.

However the comment from your counselor is terrible. It’s time to look for a new one.

Jimjam1 Sat 08-Feb-20 22:27:33

NannyKisses. Please please take the advice and get some help. GP will refer you to the right agency. On a lighter note I have been to these music weekends. They are great. Everyone laughing and enjoying themselves. If you feel up to it go with your friends and enjoy. Look after yourself ?????

Yennifer Sat 08-Feb-20 22:10:37

Here is a link to mental health helplines in the UK x

www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/mental-health-helplines/

BlueBelle Sat 08-Feb-20 22:08:11

nannykisses please rest now let your mind recover try and get some sleep tonight, its a new day tomorrow stop over thinking about it all just please have a rest
Tomorrow you can make some plans
We ll still all be here just rest now please

Madgran77 Sat 08-Feb-20 22:06:17

Nannykisses I cant answer your question as I haven't said you are the third person in their marriage

I do still think you need to help with your mental wellbeing and that the Samaritans could advise. flowers

Yennifer Sat 08-Feb-20 21:55:45

Her father I mean x

Yennifer Sat 08-Feb-20 21:54:44

I was a difficult teen, or so I've been told and I was sent to stay with others and felt unwanted, father left and abandoned even if he was abusive. That's not me excusing her behaviour or mine but thinking isn't always rational, especially if something traumatic has happened. I didn't start to realise how screwed up I was until my 30s and no one could fix me but me. There is hope for your daughter but I think your focus is you and your mental and physical health. I also have fibro and other conditions, mental health is a huge factor and worsens my symptoms x

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 21:47:48

Yennifer please tell me why you think my Daygher felt alone? I have always been there for her believing her when so many others didn’t.
When people told me there was nothing else I can do for her she is a lost cause. I never did what they said I never ever gave up on her. I was with her every step of the way

But if Iv done something wrong I would do like to know what Iv done so I never repeat it ever again
I love my Daughter even when she hurts me. Il never stop loving her.
I wish I knew what Iv done wrong
I’m forever beating myself up going over & over again in my head what have I done wrong what could I have done better.
Why doesn’t her evil sick Father care at all about her yet she seems to care about him more than me when all he’s ever done is bad towards her & all Iv done is try to be there whenever she wanted & needed me Iv never turned my back on her as her Fatger has & she has to me but she hasn’t to him & her husband supports her wanting to see her Father
I’m so exhausted I don’t know what else I can & could of done x

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 21:22:22

Bluebelle Madgran Tangerine M0nica Madgran77 Barmeyoldbat Grammaretto & anyone else who have been kind enough to reply & help.
It really means so much

I could really do with the space from them. I feel they build me up to think we have a great relationship then just drop me like I’m poo on their shoe

Can I ask a question please why do you think I’m the third person in their marriage that I’m over invested in them.

All I can see is that I love my Granddaughters so much & worry about them terribly

What must all this be doing to their little Brains. Bring ally to see nanny then stopping them from seeing me they must be in an awful state

I don’t want them to end up like myself or my daughter.

I just want them to enjoy being children & having a loving nanny as I’m the only nanny that’s there for them you see no others bother with them but me

So I’m confused why you think I’m too involved in their marriage

I just wish they had a normal loving marriage

My D has confided in me a few times about her H not treating her right. No physical abuse but mental abuse is just as bad in my opinion

Thank you again x

TrendyNannie6 Sat 08-Feb-20 21:16:34

I agree with paddy Anne I don’t think anyone on here is qualified to help you and I will echo what everyone is saying, you do need professional help, this is far far to much to cope with alone, please get some councilling asap, my heart goes out to you, no wonder you are in pain emotionally and physically, and wishing you the best of luck

Yennifer Sat 08-Feb-20 21:16:16

I think you and your daughter have both suffered greatly, I can see it in her behaviour and yours. I can see where she may have felt abandoned and unwanted. I can see where she may have punished herself and others around her. I can see why she may be with an abusive man. When it all started she was an innocent child. I think you aren't the one to fix her behaviour and undo the damage and that needs to come from her. You can do what you need to do for you though and you need a better counsellor or maybe even therapy. Perhaps if your daughter sees you progressing and improving it will highlight she needs help too. While you are both stuck in this unhealthy dynamic you have nothing may change x

Madgran77 Sat 08-Feb-20 20:37:15

Nannykisses please call the Samaritans

BlueBelle Sat 08-Feb-20 20:33:52

You haven’t offended anyone nannykisses but I feel you need a big hug
Please please please ask for some help please go to your gp on Monday morning and tell them you desperately need help and intervention This is not how life should be and you need some medication to get you back into reality
You ve had horrible things happen around and to you
Your daughter sounds as if she has run rings around you since she was young and long before she met her husband and it’s swamped your whole being and harmed you badly
You can’t change their behaviour but you can change how you react to it and that is what you must learn how to do with a lot of help
I m sorry to say this but I think your daughter is using her husband as a shield for her own bad behaviour towards you but you adore her so you won’t think that
Please get help ?

M0nica Sat 08-Feb-20 20:19:09

Nanskisses anyone reading your last post would be full of sympathy for all the ills physical and mental that face you. But I think most would also say that you and your daughter are tied together in a relationship that is mutually destructive and that desperately needs sorting out.

There is something called 'tough' love. This is loving your child, but realising that the best way you can show that love is by putting space between the two of you.

Princess Diana famously said that there were three people in her marriage to Prince Charles, the third being his mistress. Your daughter is also in a marriage with three people in it. The third person in her marriage is you. And while her husband sounds a nasty and dangerous man, who financially abuses you, he must be constantly exasperated by the way you seem to want to be involved in every aspect of their marriage.

The best thing you can do for all of you is step back. Do not phone your daughter, let her phone you. Refuse to give them or buy anything for them. It would be quite reasonable to say that you have spent all the money you have on them and have none left.

You ask why they treat you so badly when you have done so much. To be brutal it is because you have acted like a doormat that they can wipe their feet on, every demand they make on you you meet, 'loans', expensive presents, you are constantly trying to buy their love and they know whatever they ask you will do. No-one, least of all a man like your SiL, has any respect for someone who acts like that and he will play you like a fish on a hook for his maximum pleasure and your maximum pain..

Your best way forward is to step back. Let them make the approaches, you can be willing to see them, but give them nothing, not even when they act 'bad cop' and then cut themselves off from you, at least for a while. In the meanwhile try and seek therapy that will help you change the way you think and respond to them to a more healthy basis. Something like CBT (cognitive behaviour therapy) This concentrates not in examining your entrails to find out why, just concentrates on making sure you act differently in the future.

If you do this, one of two things will happen either your daughter's family will try and pull together and get their relationship on a better basis and your joint relationship will improve as a result or the whole house of cards will fall down and your daughters marriage will breakup and she and her children will move in with you.

But this will place more pressure n you because you make clear that your daughter ricochets from one bad situation to another causing chaos and upset where ever she goes. How will you cope when she is living with you again.

This is why I recommend CBT. It is functional and just teaches you techniques and redirects your responses to changing how you behave in the challenging situations that face you.

And if your daughter takes her children to visit her father again, report her (anonymously) to Social Services or the NSPCC, there is absolutely no way those children should be anywhere near a known child sex offender. Those children are just that children. You know what sexual abuse has done to your daughter. Do you want the same thing done to your grandchildren? If he misbehaves with them and is in court and it comes out that you knew he was seeing them but did nothing to protect them. Your chances of ever seeing them again are minimal.

There is nobody on this thread who does not feel for your predicament, but only you can get yourself out if it and that requires you gritting your teeth and giving your daughter some tough love.

paddyanne Sat 08-Feb-20 20:07:04

I really dont think anyone here is qualified to give you advice,you seem to be in a bad place and only professional help will do.Please call someone a mental health line or samaritans and get the help and advice you so clearly need.I hope you get things if not sorted at least liveable with .Take care of yourself .

MissAdventure Sat 08-Feb-20 19:58:44

Nannykisses

I just want to remind you, kindly, that these forums are not private.

Anything you write can be found on Google, or copied and posted elsewhere for anyone to read.

I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. flowers

Greymar Sat 08-Feb-20 19:53:10

Monday morning turn on Google for your area. Find a BACP registered counsellor. Do it.

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 19:48:45

Yes I believed her. I always believed her I always believe its better to believe a child & be wrong than not to believe her & find out she was being honest.

Luckily she didn’t go & stay with her D he had asked her to & she said yes even thought a few years back he made a comment on how quickly his D was growing up esp in certain places & that’s when he touched one of her breasts. She told me & of course I confronted him about it & how inappropriate & embarrassing it was for her

His excuse was she’s his baby & he didn’t see anything wrong in it but he wouldn’t do it again

After my D told me about the phone calls between them which were very inappropriate. While they were having a conversation my D could her strange noises in the back ground & asked what it was & he said it was a film with a man with a very big penis but he used the word c**k & does she want to come & watch it with Daddy ( I feel physically nausea telling you this)

If she hadn’t of heard what she heard in the back ground she was planning on him picking her up & she was going to spend some time at his house ( the thought of what could of happened scares me to death)

He knew our D was being a terrible teenager & the police had got involved because I rang them out of fear when she ran away from home on a few occasions

Her D knowing this told her if she told anybody what he had been saying to her no one would believe her because of her behaviour

But I listened into a few conversations & taped them although the sound wasn’t great quality back then

But we had witnesses & I phoned the police who brought him in for questioning. But my D wouldn’t go to court she said she just couldn’t do that. As much as I wanted him punished I had to stand by what y D wanted to do

Hence why I can’t understand why after 7 yrs of nearly all of his family turning their back on her when they contacted her she let them all back in even her D

She said she was waiting for an apology, which to this day she has never received

She’s gone way way way out of her way to visit him & his family with her 2 D And let him visit her where we lie now a 600 mike round trip
Her H has supported her although he doesn’t support her seeing me

Her H even blamed me for what happened with her D !!!!

Even though she was being an awful teenager. Lieing stealing running away even on her own to boys houses she had just met. She & her friend told me her friend was being sexually abused by her father. I found out that they were lieing because I said the girl couldn’t stay that. When I said I couldn’t keep that information to my self her friend said she was sorry but she was lieing. I didnt know what to believe.

At the time I had a very good circle of family & friends who asked me & her if we wanted some space

My D stayed with my Brother & DIL who said after a week they couldn’t have her any longer because she was causing to much trouble for their family. She would disappear in the middle of the night to be picked up by a boy/man 20yrs old. She was stealing money & cigarettes

She stayed with other friends ( my longest dearest friend who is coMing to butlins but she told them too many lies.

My Dad couldn’t help because of his partner my Mum lived abroad at the time so I paid for her to travel to stay with my Mum & her Husband she told them so many lies that she nearly ruined our relationship

Even my Boss ( who I’d worked for for 10 yrs ) so was a good friend asked if she wanted to stay with them my D agreed. But after 2 weeks of them dropping her off to friends when they went to pick her up she wasn’t there they spent hours looking for her in the end they said they couldn’t do anymore

She scared me she was 3 stone heavier than me & 4 inches taller. She had hit me a few time.

I nearly lost my job because I had to keep leaving the office to go find her. I went from 9 stone to 6 stone within 2 mths. I would literally drive her to school everyday watch her walk in then the school would phone & say she hasn’t turned up yet again

She said the teachers didn’t like her & she was being bullied & wanted to change schools so to be at the same school as ( her longest friend the one that she asked to come to Butlin with us ) I agreed bought her the school uniform they wore there & drove her an extra 1hr round trip. Then after 4 weeks she wasn’t happy & wanted to go back to her previous school, who were good enough to take her back

I don’t care about the money. I just care about my D & 2 GD’s
Iv loaned them so much money over the years I’m guilt tripped into buying expensive presents.
I’m sent photos of my G D’s crying because they want to go on holiday or an expensive school trip. You name they’ve done it

Yes i am stupid to allow myself to be treated like this but the thought of not being allowed to see my GD’s is so painful I can physically feel my heart breaking

And my D was the one who said we should go to Butlins, she had been before & enjoyed it. It’s not my kind of thing to be honest but I was over the moon that she wanted to go away with me for my Birthday. She phoned her longest friend & pleaded with her to get certain dates off of work
My dearest friend & her Daughter are so upset & annoyed with her

Replying to the person who said I shouldn’t buy the expensive presents
When I said I wasn’t going to spend £300 on a hoover board one year my D & her H said that they would buy their D’s the fake ones that burst into flames & have killed one child & burnt other children very badly

I said you can’t guilt trip me to that. Their answer was if anything happened to my GD’s it would be my fault & I would have to live with that for the rest of my life & if I don’t buy them what they ask for I mm not a good GM & wouldn’t be allowed to see them ever again

Replying to the person who asked about my illnesses. I have Osteoporosis. Fibromyalgia. Celiac Disease. Ulcerated Colitis. Chronic pain Disease. Prolapse womb with so many fibroids they couldn’t she my womb through an X-ray so I have had quite a view operations including a hysterectomy & A lumpectomy
I walk with 2 walking sticks, I’m 49 yrs old. To add to that I’m now suffering with severe depression & anxiety because my D & her H have changed their minds about my D being allowed to come to Butlins ( even though I didn’t even want to go I only agreed but my D wanted to go)
And now Iv been blocked from contacting them in anyway

The person who said our family is incestuous. Yes my D Father is sick.

But my SIL father went to prison for raping a disabled teenager who couldn’t talk , his job was to drive disabled youngsters to places & homes again.

My SIL doesn’t shave anything to do with any of his family that are older than him his M & all of his 6 siblings apart from his sister who has cerebral palsy which he uses her disability benefit to hire a brand new 4 x4 car

He also sees his 2 Nieces who are it younger than him who look up to him like a god

One of his N boyfriend had sex with her M who his my SIL Sister. But he’s ok with that he spends a lot of time with that boy

I feel I live in the sickest saddest loneliness Soap opera

I apologise to anybody Iv offended

I know life is precious, but to me it’s the hardest thing to get through. I take it a day at a time. I just don’t know how much longer I can take it

Why are they treating me so terrible when Iv done so much to help them. More than anyone else has ever done for them X

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 19:48:08

Yes I believed her. I always believed her I always believe its better to believe a child & be wrong than not to believe her & find out she was being honest.

Luckily she didn’t go & stay with her D he had asked her to & she said yes even thought a few years back he made a comment on how quickly his D was growing up esp in certain places & that’s when he touched one of her breasts. She told me & of course I confronted him about it & how inappropriate & embarrassing it was for her

His excuse was she’s his baby & he didn’t see anything wrong in it but he wouldn’t do it again

After my D told me about the phone calls between them which were very inappropriate. While they were having a conversation my D could her strange noises in the back ground & asked what it was & he said it was a film with a man with a very big penis but he used the word c**k & does she want to come & watch it with Daddy ( I feel physically nausea telling you this)

If she hadn’t of heard what she heard in the back ground she was planning on him picking her up & she was going to spend some time at his house ( the thought of what could of happened scares me to death)

He knew our D was being a terrible teenager & the police had got involved because I rang them out of fear when she ran away from home on a few occasions

Her D knowing this told her if she told anybody what he had been saying to her no one would believe her because of her behaviour

But I listened into a few conversations & taped them although the sound wasn’t great quality back then

But we had witnesses & I phoned the police who brought him in for questioning. But my D wouldn’t go to court she said she just couldn’t do that. As much as I wanted him punished I had to stand by what y D wanted to do

Hence why I can’t understand why after 7 yrs of nearly all of his family turning their back on her when they contacted her she let them all back in even her D

She said she was waiting for an apology, which to this day she has never received

She’s gone way way way out of her way to visit him & his family with her 2 D And let him visit her where we lie now a 600 mike round trip
Her H has supported her although he doesn’t support her seeing me

Her H even blamed me for what happened with her D !!!!

Even though she was being an awful teenager. Lieing stealing running away even on her own to boys houses she had just met. She & her friend told me her friend was being sexually abused by her father. I found out that they were lieing because I said the girl couldn’t stay that. When I said I couldn’t keep that information to my self her friend said she was sorry but she was lieing. I didnt know what to believe.

At the time I had a very good circle of family & friends who asked me & her if we wanted some space

My D stayed with my Brother & DIL who said after a week they couldn’t have her any longer because she was causing to much trouble for their family. She would disappear in the middle of the night to be picked up by a boy/man 20yrs old. She was stealing money & cigarettes

She stayed with other friends ( my longest dearest friend who is coMing to butlins but she told them too many lies.

My Dad couldn’t help because of his partner my Mum lived abroad at the time so I paid for her to travel to stay with my Mum & her Husband she told them so many lies that she nearly ruined our relationship

Even my Boss ( who I’d worked for for 10 yrs ) so was a good friend asked if she wanted to stay with them my D agreed. But after 2 weeks of them dropping her off to friends when they went to pick her up she wasn’t there they spent hours looking for her in the end they said they couldn’t do anymore

She scared me she was 3 stone heavier than me & 4 inches taller. She had hit me a few time.

I nearly lost my job because I had to keep leaving the office to go find her. I went from 9 stone to 6 stone within 2 mths. I would literally drive her to school everyday watch her walk in then the school would phone & say she hasn’t turned up yet again

She said the teachers didn’t like her & she was being bullied & wanted to change schools so to be at the same school as ( her longest friend the one that she asked to come to Butlin with us ) I agreed bought her the school uniform they wore there & drove her an extra 1hr round trip. Then after 4 weeks she wasn’t happy & wanted to go back to her previous school, who were good enough to take her back

I don’t care about the money. I just care about my D & 2 GD’s
Iv loaned them so much money over the years I’m guilt tripped into buying expensive presents.
I’m sent photos of my G D’s crying because they want to go on holiday or an expensive school trip. You name they’ve done it

Yes i am stupid to allow myself to be treated like this but the thought of not being allowed to see my GD’s is so painful I can physically feel my heart breaking

And my D was the one who said we should go to Butlins, she had been before & enjoyed it. It’s not my kind of thing to be honest but I was over the moon that she wanted to go away with me for my Birthday. She phoned her longest friend & pleaded with her to get certain dates off of work
My dearest friend & her Daughter are so upset & annoyed with her

Replying to the person who said I shouldn’t buy the expensive presents
When I said I wasn’t going to spend £300 on a hoover board one year my D & her H said that they would buy their D’s the fake ones that burst into flames & have killed one child & burnt other children very badly

I said you can’t guilt trip me to that. Their answer was if anything happened to my GD’s it would be my fault & I would have to live with that for the rest of my life & if I don’t buy them what they ask for I mm not a good GM & wouldn’t be allowed to see them ever again

Replying to the person who asked about my illnesses. I have Osteoporosis. Fibromyalgia. Celiac Disease. Ulcerated Colitis. Chronic pain Disease. Prolapse womb with so many fibroids they couldn’t she my womb through an X-ray so I have had quite a view operations including a hysterectomy & A lumpectomy
I walk with 2 walking sticks, I’m 49 yrs old. To add to that I’m now suffering with severe depression & anxiety because my D & her H have changed their minds about my D being allowed to come to Butlins ( even though I didn’t even want to go I only agreed but my D wanted to go)
And now Iv been blocked from contacting them in anyway

The person who said our family is incestuous. Yes my D Father is sick.

But my SIL father went to prison for raping a disabled teenager who couldn’t talk , his job was to drive disabled youngsters to places & homes again.

My SIL doesn’t shave anything to do with any of his family that are older than him his M & all of his 6 siblings apart from his sister who has cerebral palsy which he uses her disability benefit to hire a brand new 4 x4 car

He also sees his 2 Nieces who are it younger than him who look up to him like a god

One of his N boyfriend had sex with her M who his my SIL Sister. But he’s ok with that he spends a lot of time with that boy

I feel I live in the sickest saddest loneliness Soap opera

I apologise to anybody Iv offended

I know life is precious, but to me it’s the hardest thing to get through. I take it a day at a time. I just don’t know how much longer I can take it

Why are they treating me so terrible when Iv done so much to help them. More than anyone else has ever done for them

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 19:46:47

Yes the Counselling I have received from 2 counsellors which my GP arranged. Both have said that if they had had to go through everything I have been through they can understand why I wouldn’t want to on. They obviously know more about my illnesses & pain
And the awful things my Daughter Father did to me for yrs & what I had to do to get us away from him etc etc
One counsellor excused herself from the room & when she can back she had been crying & she apologised to me

I’m not asking for any validation

It’s just easier to talk to people that I don’t know &they don’t know me

Yes I believed her. I always believed her I always believe its better to believe a child & be wrong than not to believe her & find out she was being honest.

Luckily she didn’t go & stay with her D he had asked her to & she said yes even thought a few years back he made a comment on how quickly his D was growing up esp in certain places & that’s when he touched one of her breasts. She told me & of course I confronted him about it & how inappropriate & embarrassing it was for her

His excuse was she’s his baby & he didn’t see anything wrong in it but he wouldn’t do it again

After my D told me about the phone calls between them which were very inappropriate. While they were having a conversation my D could her strange noises in the back ground & asked what it was & he said it was a film with a man with a very big penis but he used the word c**k & does she want to come & watch it with Daddy ( I feel physically nausea telling you this)

If she hadn’t of heard what she heard in the back ground she was planning on him picking her up & she was going to spend some time at his house ( the thought of what could of happened scares me to death)

He knew our D was being a terrible teenager & the police had got involved because I rang them out of fear when she ran away from home on a few occasions

Her D knowing this told her if she told anybody what he had been saying to her no one would believe her because of her behaviour

But I listened into a few conversations & taped them although the sound wasn’t great quality back then

But we had witnesses & I phoned the police who brought him in for questioning. But my D wouldn’t go to court she said she just couldn’t do that. As much as I wanted him punished I had to stand by what y D wanted to do

Hence why I can’t understand why after 7 yrs of nearly all of his family turning their back on her when they contacted her she let them all back in even her D

She said she was waiting for an apology, which to this day she has never received

She’s gone way way way out of her way to visit him & his family with her 2 D And let him visit her where we lie now a 600 mike round trip
Her H has supported her although he doesn’t support her seeing me

Her H even blamed me for what happened with her D !!!!

Even though she was being an awful teenager. Lieing stealing running away even on her own to boys houses she had just met. She & her friend told me her friend was being sexually abused by her father. I found out that they were lieing because I said the girl couldn’t stay that. When I said I couldn’t keep that information to my self her friend said she was sorry but she was lieing. I didnt know what to believe.

At the time I had a very good circle of family & friends who asked me & her if we wanted some space

My D stayed with my Brother & DIL who said after a week they couldn’t have her any longer because she was causing to much trouble for their family. She would disappear in the middle of the night to be picked up by a boy/man 20yrs old. She was stealing money & cigarettes

She stayed with other friends ( my longest dearest friend who is coMing to butlins but she told them too many lies.

My Dad couldn’t help because of his partner my Mum lived abroad at the time so I paid for her to travel to stay with my Mum & her Husband she told them so many lies that she nearly ruined our relationship

Even my Boss ( who I’d worked for for 10 yrs ) so was a good friend asked if she wanted to stay with them my D agreed. But after 2 weeks of them dropping her off to friends when they went to pick her up she wasn’t there they spent hours looking for her in the end they said they couldn’t do anymore

She scared me she was 3 stone heavier than me & 4 inches taller. She had hit me a few time.

I nearly lost my job because I had to keep leaving the office to go find her. I went from 9 stone to 6 stone within 2 mths. I would literally drive her to school everyday watch her walk in then the school would phone & say she hasn’t turned up yet again

She said the teachers didn’t like her & she was being bullied & wanted to change schools so to be at the same school as ( her longest friend the one that she asked to come to Butlin with us ) I agreed bought her the school uniform they wore there & drove her an extra 1hr round trip. Then after 4 weeks she wasn’t happy & wanted to go back to her previous school, who were good enough to take her back

I don’t care about the money. I just care about my D & 2 GD’s
Iv loaned them so much money over the years I’m guilt tripped into buying expensive presents.
I’m sent photos of my G D’s crying because they want to go on holiday or an expensive school trip. You name they’ve done it

Yes i am stupid to allow myself to be treated like this but the thought of not being allowed to see my GD’s is so painful I can physically feel my heart breaking

And my D was the one who said we should go to Butlins, she had been before & enjoyed it. It’s not my kind of thing to be honest but I was over the moon that she wanted to go away with me for my Birthday. She phoned her longest friend & pleaded with her to get certain dates off of work
My dearest friend & her Daughter are so upset & annoyed with her

Replying to the person who said I shouldn’t buy the expensive presents
When I said I wasn’t going to spend £300 on a hoover board one year my D & her H said that they would buy their D’s the fake ones that burst into flames & have killed one child & burnt other children very badly

I said you can’t guilt trip me to that. Their answer was if anything happened to my GD’s it would be my fault & I would have to live with that for the rest of my life & if I don’t buy them what they ask for I mm not a good GM & wouldn’t be allowed to see them ever again

Replying to the person who asked about my illnesses. I have Osteoporosis. Fibromyalgia. Celiac Disease. Ulcerated Colitis. Chronic pain Disease. Prolapse womb with so many fibroids they couldn’t she my womb through an X-ray so I have had quite a view operations including a hysterectomy & A lumpectomy
I walk with 2 walking sticks, I’m 49 yrs old. To add to that I’m now suffering with severe depression & anxiety because my D & her H have changed their minds about my D being allowed to come to Butlins ( even though I didn’t even want to go I only agreed but my D wanted to go)
And now Iv been blocked from contacting them in anyway

The person who said our family is incestuous. Yes my D Father is sick.

But my SIL father went to prison for raping a disabled teenager who couldn’t talk , his job was to drive disabled youngsters to places & homes again.

My SIL doesn’t shave anything to do with any of his family that are older than him his M & all of his 6 siblings apart from his sister who has cerebral palsy which he uses her disability benefit to hire a brand new 4 x4 car

He also sees his 2 Nieces who are it younger than him who look up to him like a god

One of his N boyfriend had sex with her M who his my SIL Sister. But he’s ok with that he spends a lot of time with that boy

I feel I live in the sickest saddest loneliness Soap opera

I apologise to anybody Iv offended

I know life is precious, but to me it’s the hardest thing to get through. I take it a day at a time. I just don’t know how much longer I can take it

Why are they treating me so terrible when Iv done so much to help them. More than anyone else has ever done for them X

NannyKisses Sat 08-Feb-20 19:34:23

Yes I believed her. I always believed her I always believe its better to believe a child & be wrong than not to believe her & find out she was being honest.

Luckily she didn’t go & stay with her D he had asked her to & she said yes even thought a few years back he made a comment on how quickly his D was growing up esp in certain places & that’s when he touched one of her breasts. She told me & of course I confronted him about it & how inappropriate & embarrassing it was for her

His excuse was she’s his baby & he didn’t see anything wrong in it but he wouldn’t do it again

After my D told me about the phone calls between them which were very inappropriate. While they were having a conversation my D could her strange noises in the back ground & asked what it was & he said it was a film with a man with a very big penis but he used the word c**k & does she want to come & watch it with Daddy ( I feel physically nausea telling you this)

If she hadn’t of heard what she heard in the back ground she was planning on him picking her up & she was going to spend some time at his house ( the thought of what could of happened scares me to death)

He knew our D was being a terrible teenager & the police had got involved because I rang them out of fear when she ran away from home on a few occasions

Her D knowing this told her if she told anybody what he had been saying to her no one would believe her because of her behaviour

But I listened into a few conversations & taped them although the sound wasn’t great quality back then

But we had witnesses & I phoned the police who brought him in for questioning. But my D wouldn’t go to court she said she just couldn’t do that. As much as I wanted him punished I had to stand by what y D wanted to do

Hence why I can’t understand why after 7 yrs of nearly all of his family turning their back on her when they contacted her she let them all back in even her D

She said she was waiting for an apology, which to this day she has never received

She’s gone way way way out of her way to visit him & his family with her 2 D And let him visit her where we lie now a 600 mike round trip
Her H has supported her although he doesn’t support her seeing me

Her H even blamed me for what happened with her D !!!!

Even though she was being an awful teenager. Lieing stealing running away even on her own to boys houses she had just met. She & her friend told me her friend was being sexually abused by her father. I found out that they were lieing because I said the girl couldn’t stay that. When I said I couldn’t keep that information to my self her friend said she was sorry but she was lieing. I didnt know what to believe.

At the time I had a very good circle of family & friends who asked me & her if we wanted some space

My D stayed with my Brother & DIL who said after a week they couldn’t have her any longer because she was causing to much trouble for their family. She would disappear in the middle of the night to be picked up by a boy/man 20yrs old. She was stealing money & cigarettes

She stayed with other friends ( my longest dearest friend who is coMing to butlins but she told them too many lies.

My Dad couldn’t help because of his partner my Mum lived abroad at the time so I paid for her to travel to stay with my Mum & her Husband she told them so many lies that she nearly ruined our relationship

Even my Boss ( who I’d worked for for 10 yrs ) so was a good friend asked if she wanted to stay with them my D agreed. But after 2 weeks of them dropping her off to friends when they went to pick her up she wasn’t there they spent hours looking for her in the end they said they couldn’t do anymore

She scared me she was 3 stone heavier than me & 4 inches taller. She had hit me a few time.

I nearly lost my job because I had to keep leaving the office to go find her. I went from 9 stone to 6 stone within 2 mths. I would literally drive her to school everyday watch her walk in then the school would phone & say she hasn’t turned up yet again

She said the teachers didn’t like her & she was being bullied & wanted to change schools so to be at the same school as ( her longest friend the one that she asked to come to Butlin with us ) I agreed bought her the school uniform they wore there & drove her an extra 1hr round trip. Then after 4 weeks she wasn’t happy & wanted to go back to her previous school, who were good enough to take her back

I don’t care about the money. I just care about my D & 2 GD’s
Iv loaned them so much money over the years I’m guilt tripped into buying expensive presents.
I’m sent photos of my G D’s crying because they want to go on holiday or an expensive school trip. You name they’ve done it

Yes i am stupid to allow myself to be treated like this but the thought of not being allowed to see my GD’s is so painful I can physically feel my heart breaking

And my D was the one who said we should go to Butlins, she had been before & enjoyed it. It’s not my kind of thing to be honest but I was over the moon that she wanted to go away with me for my Birthday. She phoned her longest friend & pleaded with her to get certain dates off of work
My dearest friend & her Daughter are so upset & annoyed with her

Replying to the person who said I shouldn’t buy the expensive presents
When I said I wasn’t going to spend £300 on a hoover board one year my D & her H said that they would buy their D’s the fake ones that burst into flames & have killed one child & burnt other children very badly

I said you can’t guilt trip me to that. Their answer was if anything happened to my GD’s it would be my fault & I would have to live with that for the rest of my life & if I don’t buy them what they ask for I mm not a good GM & wouldn’t be allowed to see them ever again

Replying to the person who asked about my illnesses. I have Osteoporosis. Fibromyalgia. Celiac Disease. Ulcerated Colitis. Chronic pain Disease. Prolapse womb with so many fibroids they couldn’t she my womb through an X-ray so I have had quite a view operations including a hysterectomy & A lumpectomy
I walk with 2 walking sticks, I’m 49 yrs old. To add to that I’m now suffering with severe depression & anxiety because my D & her H have changed their minds about my D being allowed to come to Butlins ( even though I didn’t even want to go I only agreed but my D wanted to go)
And now Iv been blocked from contacting them in anyway

The person who said our family is incestuous. Yes my D Father is sick.

But my SIL father went to prison for raping a disabled teenager who couldn’t talk , his job was to drive disabled youngsters to places & homes again.

My SIL doesn’t shave anything to do with any of his family that are older than him his M & all of his 6 siblings apart from his sister who has cerebral palsy which he uses her disability benefit to hire a brand new 4 x4 car

He also sees his 2 Nieces who are it younger than him who look up to him like a god

One of his N boyfriend had sex with her M who his my SIL Sister. But he’s ok with that he spends a lot of time with that boy

I feel I live in the sickest saddest loneliness Soap opera

I apologise to anybody Iv offended

I know life is precious, but to me it’s the hardest thing to get through. I take it a day at a time. I just don’t know how much longer I can take it

Why are they treating me so terrible when Iv done so much to help them. More than anyone else has ever done for them