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Notjustaprettyface Thu 04-Jun-20 11:25:06

I am not native of this country but have lived here longer than I have in my country of birth .
I am fluent in English but for some reason , cannot shake off my ( foreign) accent.
Since brexit and lockdown , this has resulted , in a regular basis , in me being told to ‘ go back to my own country’ by various people.
My husband, who is English , just tells me to ignore it but , being of a sensitive nature , I find it hard to just do that .
It is very hurtful especially as I have worked here for many years , paid taxes and national insurance contributions etc ...
Has anybody been through a similar situation ? How do you deal with it ?
Or if you haven’t been affected by this issue , have you got tips to pass on ?
At a time where protests are taking place at the death of a black man in the US, it is clear to me that there is latent racism in the U.K. even against white people
I was not sure which forum to put this in so I chose relationships as it could affect the way I interact with people in the future
Hope someone out there can help
Thank you

Iam64 Fri 05-Jun-20 12:58:58

lady muck, your post at 12.00 today confirms that many white people just do not understand or accept the extent of disadvantage so many of our fellow citizens live with.
To suggest that its "all too easy for someone of a different race to claim they have been discriminated against for their colour" is offensive and racist. The list of reasons you go on to give as acceptable reasons to turn a candidate away could apply to any individual from any race.

EllanVannin Fri 05-Jun-20 13:03:51

I'm sure some people just go looking for a way to " trip " someone up over " racism ". Since it was highlighted it's all we damn well hear. The very word itself is enough to cause WWIII. Because of its awareness there'd be no such thing.

It's what becomes of being programmed/ controlled and I refuse to be dragged in to such a way of life.

It was never mentioned in my school in the 40's and 50's and as a consequence everyone got on and we were all treated the same----equally !

Schools in my day were places of learning and not what they are now, sadly.

trisher Fri 05-Jun-20 14:28:23

EllanVannin Schools and times have changed such a lot. I could take you into schools where staff are trying desperately to keep the peace and ensure that children from EU countries whose parents have come to work here are not constantly abused and insulted by others ,where black children are called every sort of name, as are their parents. It's not all schools and most schools integrate and accept children from all countries, races and faiths very successfully, but it is some. Would you rather the school didn't at least try to mitigate the very real hatred some children learn at home?

Galaxy Fri 05-Jun-20 14:30:42

Schools are a thousand times better than they were back in the day.

Summerlove Fri 05-Jun-20 14:33:57

Iam64

lady muck, your post at 12.00 today confirms that many white people just do not understand or accept the extent of disadvantage so many of our fellow citizens live with.
To suggest that its "all too easy for someone of a different race to claim they have been discriminated against for their colour" is offensive and racist. The list of reasons you go on to give as acceptable reasons to turn a candidate away could apply to any individual from any race.

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Summerlove Fri 05-Jun-20 14:35:25

EllanVannin

I'm sure some people just go looking for a way to " trip " someone up over " racism ". Since it was highlighted it's all we damn well hear. The very word itself is enough to cause WWIII. Because of its awareness there'd be no such thing.

It's what becomes of being programmed/ controlled and I refuse to be dragged in to such a way of life.

It was never mentioned in my school in the 40's and 50's and as a consequence everyone got on and we were all treated the same----equally !

Schools in my day were places of learning and not what they are now, sadly.

You poor dear having your life questioned. Your remarks are so small minded that you can’t even see how horrible you sound.

It was never mentioned in the 40s and 50s....Because people were terrified to mention it. People were absolutely not equal, and the fact that you think they were just shows the insane amount of privilege you live with.

GillT57 Fri 05-Jun-20 14:52:15

It was never mentioned in the 40s and 50s.....was that the time when landlords could put a sign in their window saying No Irish, No Coloureds, No dogs ? Good old days eh?

Eloethan Fri 05-Jun-20 15:15:55

EllanVannin Yes, "the good old days" when a political banner proclaiming "If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour" was completely lawful. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.

Starblaze Fri 05-Jun-20 15:58:38

There has always been ignorance as well as racism, ignorance can be educated though and there really is no excuse when you have it all at your fingertips right this moment.

Eloethan Fri 05-Jun-20 16:09:29

I don't understand what you mean Starblaze.

Starblaze Fri 05-Jun-20 16:30:13

Ignorance is not having knowledge or experience of racism and so deciding its not really a problem. Ignorance is curable by educating yourself on the subject

Starblaze Fri 05-Jun-20 16:31:57

I'm. Using the Royal you. Its an anyone you. I seriously need to stop that bad habit

silverlining48 Fri 05-Jun-20 16:32:52

Certainly in the late 60s when living in London there were often signs in the windows of houses advertising rooms to let saying No Irish, No Blacks No dogs. It was shocking.

EllanVannin Fri 05-Jun-20 16:34:28

I obviously lived in a different part of the country---that's evident ! Politics never came into schools then and it WAS a friendly abuse-free society, " banner"-free too !!

FGS, Eloethan, wind your neck in.
I didn't see nor hear any of those obscenities when I was growing up.
Speaking as you do is the very reason why we have so much hatred and hostility in the world.

EllanVannin Fri 05-Jun-20 16:35:58

Flaming left-wing trouble-makers !!

AGAA4 Fri 05-Jun-20 16:48:24

Like EllanVannin I wasn't aware of racism in the community I grew up in. This was probably because most people were white British.

I feel the poorer for this as had no opportunity to meet anyone different

Both my daughters have best friends in what is now known as the BAME community. They accept each other as they are and it is a pity we can't all do that.

Smileless2012 Fri 05-Jun-20 16:48:32

I had similar experiences when I moved to North Yorkshire from Surrey Sussexborn. I was called a snob because of my accent.

I thought the same as another poster Notjustaprettyface when I read your OP; I bet you speak English far better than some born and bred here.

It isn't easy to ignore it but do try. People who say such things are to be pitiedflowers.

MerylStreep Fri 05-Jun-20 16:58:51

I grew up in Woolwich and Greenwich until 1968. We lived with black/Asian/Irish neighbours. I never ever saw one of those signs.
The only rascim I ever encountered was when my friend took me to a Ska club and they wouldn't let me in because I was white ?

Urmstongran Fri 05-Jun-20 17:15:53

I wish. x

trisher Fri 05-Jun-20 17:21:39

I grew up on a council estate. When we moved to a bigger house our old house was given to a black family. When my mother went back to collect the post she was shouted at by he neighbours for "Letting them people in our street". It was nothing to do with my mum of course and the family had recently had a child who had died, but the neighbours didn't care That was in 1953. There was racism.

Galaxy Fri 05-Jun-20 17:29:53

I think saying education in the 50s was better just shows an astounding lack of awareness. Not just in terms of racism.

Peardrop50 Fri 05-Jun-20 17:59:53

One of my daughters-in-law is of Asian descent, her parents are from India, she was born and brought up in France, her parents sacrificed a lot to give her and her siblings a good education. She came to university in the UK to study English where she met my son. She has the most beautiful French accent when speaking English, she is such a gentle soul, intelligent and wise. She became a teacher in an English city where she used public transport daily to travel to and from school, she was subjected daily to the most vile racial abuse from mainly young white males. She told me that she had suffered the same in her home town of Valence in France.
They emigrated to Australia to escape this disgusting abuse and now their daughter, my sweet, kind and lovely thirteen year old granddaughter is suffering the same ignorant, cruel and nasty abuse and wanted to commit suicide recently when she was pushed to the ground and had dirt rubbed in her face while being told to go back to where she came from.
World over we must stamp this out. Education, education, education.

Peardrop50 Fri 05-Jun-20 18:01:48

I'm ashamed that I didn't post this earlier as I didn't want to be identified. Doesn't matter, this is too important.

Peardrop50 Fri 05-Jun-20 18:04:03

Urmstongran, very good.

Summerlove Fri 05-Jun-20 18:07:25

EllanVannin

I obviously lived in a different part of the country---that's evident ! Politics never came into schools then and it WAS a friendly abuse-free society, " banner"-free too !!

FGS, Eloethan, wind your neck in.
I didn't see nor hear any of those obscenities when I was growing up.
Speaking as you do is the very reason why we have so much hatred and hostility in the world.

How arrogant.

Just because you didn’t see something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.