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SueDonim Thu 04-Jun-20 14:49:37

Ah yes, two of my children had red hair as well, ExD. Double whammy. hmm

ExD Thu 04-Jun-20 14:37:43

Some of those examples are truly shocking, but -
you can extend this to all kinds of things.
My daughter teaches IT in a southern university and has had to modify her northern accent because the other tutors (not students)
considered her ignorant and uneducated.
And my DGS was mocked because of his red hair.
I think we have to be careful we don't look for racism where it doesn't exist.

SueDonim Thu 04-Jun-20 14:26:22

As someone who moved from England to Scotland 40 years ago I’ve had my fair share of racism from Scots, even on this very platform. I shrug it off most of the time, it simply shows how parochial and small-minded the racists are.

I did get angry, though, when my children were also subjected to anti-English racism, despite all except the oldest having been born in Scotland.

fiorentina51 Thu 04-Jun-20 14:09:40

My mother was Italian. She married a British soldier in 1945 and came to live in the UK.
She had to have a medical examination before they were allowed to marry to make sure she wasn't carrying any nasty diseases and the army did it's best to dissuade my father from marrying an "eyetye".
She put up with a fair bit of name calling in the early days as Italians were still regarded as the enemy back then.
As my brother and I inherited her Mediterranean colouring we also had to put up with some unpleasant treatment. We weren't invited to the street party for the coronation for example nor the various Christmas parties that were held for the children.
Over time things improved. Perhaps due to better education and increased foreign travel, who knows?
Ignorant, small minded people exist everywhere unfortunately.

sodapop Thu 04-Jun-20 14:09:27

almostelderly is right, stand proud notjustaprettyface this is a minority of people with the intelligence of a gnat. You should be proud of who you are and what you have achieved, rise above it.

almostelderly Thu 04-Jun-20 13:35:50

I would not worry too much not just a pretty face. My father was a Pole. When I was 8or 9 at primary school another child called me 'a German dog'. The child must have heard that charming expression from an adult, an adult who could not even identify my Dad's nationality. To call a Pole a German is the ultimate insult to a Pole. My daughter in law is Polish. She and my son were with me when the 'leave' vote was announced. We listened to the vitriol directed at poles in particular when members of the public were being interviewed. The comments were so pathetic, I told my daughter in law to ignore them and I say the same to you. These people are ignorant and petty minded so do not waste your precious time thinking about them. They are not worth the effort and it upsets you not them. Do not give them any satisfaction by retaliating, rise above and be proud of your identity. Don't believe the hype saying the UK is racist, it's a small minority, we are a tolerant country no matter what some papers would like you to believe, my Dad could vouch for that.

Sussexborn Thu 04-Jun-20 13:09:05

We are all obviously such a nasty rotten bunch that I am amazed that anyone actually still remains in this country.

I was shocked and upset when we first moved north by the daft statements some people made about everyone in the south being rich and living a life of luxury.

On one occasion I was told how rotten and mean all southerners are and then told how stupid I was to move northwards.

There are good and bad people wherever you live but some people seem to prefer to focus on the bad which leaves them with a grumpy negative outlook.

felice Thu 04-Jun-20 12:36:55

I have to disagree there Wibby, the abuse I have seen given to staff in the Hospitality industry has been awful.
Including my DD when she was doing a try out in a 5 star Hotel when at College.
She was waitressing and there were 2 English businessmen at the end of the bar.
As she was speaking French to the bar manager they assumed she was local.
The things they were saying were terrible, what they would do to her etc. Eventually one of them grabbed her bum as she walked past and she slapped him and gave him some good Scots comments. Their reaction, oh we did not know you were 'English'.
She walked out and I contacted the Department they worked in and made a formal complaint. They had done enough bragging to make it very clear where they worked and their names too.
When I was on duty in our bar in the Algarve the Brits would come in on arrival and proceed to shout at me getting louder and louder, then 'stupid bitch doesn't speak English'.
This was at least 3/4 times a week.
I made them wait!!!
Sorry for the length of the post but I could fill a book.

25Avalon Thu 04-Jun-20 12:25:54

The opinion of people who would say that to you is worth nothing as are they themselves. Do not let them put you down.
Btw for a bit of perspective a very rude neighbour told me to go back where I came from as I have a different English accent coming from another part of the country. I told him I didn’t care what the likes of him thought and I haven’t spoken to the ignorant pig since.

GrannySomerset Thu 04-Jun-20 12:18:58

And I bet their English isn’t as good as yours, Prettyface! Infuriating to have to deal with such ignorance and I would be hurt in your place.

Wibby Thu 04-Jun-20 12:15:14

Why should you shake off your accent? stand proud of who you are and where youve come from. Dont change just because you feel you dont fit in. As your husband said ignore them. Sadly there are too many ignorant people in this country who have nothing better to do than be racist. I bet these people arent racist when they go on their holiday in a foreign country.

Notjustaprettyface Thu 04-Jun-20 11:25:06

I am not native of this country but have lived here longer than I have in my country of birth .
I am fluent in English but for some reason , cannot shake off my ( foreign) accent.
Since brexit and lockdown , this has resulted , in a regular basis , in me being told to ‘ go back to my own country’ by various people.
My husband, who is English , just tells me to ignore it but , being of a sensitive nature , I find it hard to just do that .
It is very hurtful especially as I have worked here for many years , paid taxes and national insurance contributions etc ...
Has anybody been through a similar situation ? How do you deal with it ?
Or if you haven’t been affected by this issue , have you got tips to pass on ?
At a time where protests are taking place at the death of a black man in the US, it is clear to me that there is latent racism in the U.K. even against white people
I was not sure which forum to put this in so I chose relationships as it could affect the way I interact with people in the future
Hope someone out there can help
Thank you