Lovely friends - not!!

I’d be incandescent with rage at these so-called friends. How ridiculous of them. They’d have to do a lot of grovelling before they got another Christmas card from me.

I was very cross with my old mum’s neighbour. She winters in Spain and came back to the UK in early summer. She told my mum she’d SI in England before coming to Scotland.

It now transpires that when she came back she couldn’t get flights so she and three friends hired a car and drove from Madrid to one of the Channel ports, over a period of three days. They then crossed the Channel by ferry and she spent 48 hours in London then drove up to Scotland, where she didn’t SI at all.

She is now proposing to do the same journey in reverse. Thankfully, my mum has been cautious through all this and made sure this person kept her distance but I was furious that someone in their 70’s could be so stupid and unthinking towards anyone but herself.

Non infectious form of covid? Can’t say I’ve heard of that. My first question would be how did your friend contract it if it wasn’t infectious? She may even have contracted it from her husband who had it while symptom free.

KseniyaP I think you've misunderstood. There is no no infectious strain of the virus.

Non-infectious Covid refers to the period after the symptoms have disappeared.

Research found that 10 days after the symptoms had disappeared (so a minimum of 12 days from the onset of symptoms, up to 4 weeks from contracting the virus) some patients still tested positive but were not shedding the virus in any appreciable quantities.

This is very different from saying there is non-infectious Covid.

Please check this out on-line with WHO CEBM, PHE and a number of other research findings.

the second is that there are non-infectious forms of covid

I don't think you're right there KseniyaP.

It just goes to show how ill informed and dangerous some people are!

I'm quite blase about this covid business because there have hardly been any cases/deaths in my area but even I would be furious about someone going out to socialise AND COMING TO MY HOME while having symptoms needing a test and then having a positive result. I would tell them how irresponsible they have been and want nothing more to do with them and their idiotic behaviour.

marydoll I’m working on the relative, she is wavering ref the reporting.

This is the cavalier attitude that too many people have for Covid-19. For some reason they think the rules apply to others. I would be very hurt, disappointed and flaming angry that they have displayed total disregard for all those 'friends' they may have merrily infected on their self-centered way.

Oopsadaisy, I wouldn't normally advocate reporting or I would have reported my neighbours on countless occasions.
However, this cancer sufferer has deliberately made the decision to come back for treatment and blatantly ignore regulations.
She could have come home earlier and followed the rules to self isolate.
The hospital should be aware of the fact that she is prepared to compromise the lives of those in the ward.
I'm disgusted! ?

Which person returning for chemo- do you have a link? Coming from a red zone country?

biba it’s a relative of a friend, she clammed up as soon as I started asking questions about where the hospital was, I’m working on her to get more info

Some people are just not taking this seriously, are they? Even older people (70s) whom we know and who should know better appear to think they are immune.

I'm afraid I agree with janeainsworth. Why, in the middle of a pandemic, would you invite people into your home?

Yes, your friend was WAY out of order, going out while feeling ill, but the 3 others could equally have been carriers and have had no symptoms.

Is it possible to live abroad and use the NHS? I did have to use a walk in centre once, and I had to pay for the prescription.

Totally agree. I have not let any of my friends inside my house since March.

SHOCKING. They are very very irresponsible and really you should tell them so. Not good friends.
Mind you should you really be offering them a lift in the first place.
We all have to think very hard about our behaviour now, sorry but true.

I would guess there are more people like your "friend" and that is why we really can't seem to get a handle on this pandemic.
You really cannot understand after all the updates from Downing Street, the headlines on the news on tv and newspapers, posters all around the towns as well as the adverts on tv, why there are still so many stupid people drawing breath!
This person would have been told to go home and stay home at least until she got the results whether she had the test done at a testing centre or with a home kit.
Sorry but she is not worth another minute of your time.

I'm possibly over cautious who I meet up with. Some friends don't like my view on this. However, my true friends completely understand my caution.
A little dinner can turn into a nightmare. I can't understand why this couple came...... Unbelievably disappointing to everyone now involved.

Firstly, I hope you and your OH are negative and don’t develop any symptoms, secondly self isolate, thirdly I do hope your friends make a full recovery, BUT personally I’d be rethinking the whole friendship, they are completely selfish and bang out of older, I’d be livid !

To be totally honest lippyqueen, you are just as much at fault as your Covid-19 friend.
In these times nobody should be having dinner parties with people from two other households! Your husband also had these four people In his car, twice! You are angry with her because you’re scared you may get Covid, there was always a good chance of that being in such close contact.
I’m sorry but you are also in the wrong for ever having your get together, because they’re your friends doesn’t mean anything to Covid!

It is about time we all took this more seriously ! Why are you giving people lifts in your car? Why are you having so called friends for dinner? For goodness sake, until we are all following the rules we are stuck with this virus for the long term! I am fed up with it and it has halted my activities , changed my life but I want to stay well! Come on ladies get a grip!!!

Your friends are totally irresponsible, I would go as far as to say stupid. But I'm afraid I agree with janeainsworth on this. Why did you arrange a dinner party at your home at this very critical time lippiqueen. You have to take some responsibility. There were other people at your dinner party, how are they feeling?

Hello, lippyqueen, I hope that all goes well for you going forward! With the Government not knowing what the rules are, Boris' updated, the muppet Cummings driving to test his eyesight etc. , Boris' father not wearing a mask, Ferrier travelling, knowing she was positive - it goes on and on - is there any wonder a number of individuals feel they do not need to follow the rules?

How utterly, utterly selfish. I would tell them in no uncertain terms that it's people like them that are causing misery to the rest of us.

I feel the virus will come between friends even more than politics or religion. We have friends in their late 70's and 80's who meet up with friends and family two or three times a week because they don't know of anyone who has the virus! They think we are odd but rather that than end up in ICU through coming into contact with someone who should be self isolating.