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Insulted by only and oldest friend, what to do?

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PrettyNancy Sat 07-May-22 08:14:07

My only, and oldest (over 30 years) friend has really upset me. She came with her husband for a weekend. I did tell her beforehand that the weekend was all about music and dancing , she said "great! We are OK with that". I have not been singing for very long, and still get nervous.

My friend told me my singing was an embarrassment! This has really knocked my confidence. Then it transpires, through talking about it to my husband, that she has been making quite obvious sexual comments to him, and making him feel quite uncomfortable. We have a happy marriage of 5 years and he didn't like to say anything to me earlier because of her being my one and only friend, who did stick by me through my divorce and ups and downs. Now I feel she has really betrayed me and knocked my confidence so much I no longer want to sing. I think a bit of banter when the four of us are together is just a bit of fun, but when she singles my husband out (when he is in the kitchen alone, or in the garden) is not right. I don't know what to do and I don't know if I can forgive her. Do I need this 'friendship' ? Advice please, but be gentle, I am feeling a bit fragile!

Yammy Sun 08-May-22 17:46:50

Enjoy your singing enjoy your new husband, your "Friend" sounds like a needy person to me and only wanted the friendship when she thought you were the same and needy. Now you are more confident and have a good life she is going out of her way to destroy it.

PrettyNancy Sat 07-May-22 17:50:32

Luckygirl3

Well - pardon me, but stuff the good friend bit - she sounds poisonous.

You must not be put off singing - it is so very good for you in every way - sing, sing, sing and to hell with the gruesome friend.

Thank you Luckygirl3, I fully intend to sing my heart out!

PrettyNancy Sat 07-May-22 17:49:01

Grammaretto

What surprises me is that you say she is your only and oldest friend, helped you through divorce and so on.
I don't see envy, but a claim on you - developed over many years. She has treated you like a sister.
Your new husband doesn't like her and perhaps you are now seeing her through his eyes?
Maybe she has always been like that? I mean inclined to tease and banter and flirt and it once amused you but no longer?
I would distance myself from her for a while and mix with more people. A choir is an excellent idea.

Years ago I went off an old friend when her new partner and my DH had nothing in common. Meetups were painful. I often think of her and wish her well but we are no longer in contact.

Interesting that you should say she has treated me like a sister, she never has a good word to say about her sister! I have met her a couple of times and she seems nice, quiet, looks after her family and grandchildren, content with her husband and doesn't gad about like my 'friend' as they are like us, don't have the money or the inclination!

I do think she has got worse in the last few years, and yes, maybe my husbands view has opened my eyes!

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-May-22 16:53:25

Spot on Lucky. Nobody needs a ‘friend’ like that.

Luckygirl3 Sat 07-May-22 16:41:40

Well - pardon me, but stuff the good friend bit - she sounds poisonous.

You must not be put off singing - it is so very good for you in every way - sing, sing, sing and to hell with the gruesome friend.

SeaNain Sat 07-May-22 16:11:05

Have to agree with others, PrettyNancy please I really think it is time now to move on.
I think it is hard, but you could not phone, invite or text on anyway. I don't think I would offer a, reason of she did ask why, I would choose to ignore. No need to explain. Be busy if she phibes and you pick up, no time to talk.
Perhaps you may need to think about ways you could make new friendships. I'm sure all of us on here can make suggestions... Hugs. A tough one. But you will overcome this disappointment.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 07-May-22 16:04:48

Sorry - no idea what happened there!( Incompetence probably)

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 07-May-22 16:03:44

I think that you have had a consistent message here -friends who upset you are not good friends. Sometimes, we persist with friendships which have outlived their time. A good friend and I were discussing a mutual acquaintance and how trying we find him. Her husband asked " If you met him today, would you want him as a friend?"We stopped, looked at each other and said "No". It's a question you might want to ask yourself about this lady. Good luck with making new friends.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 07-May-22 15:57:07

I think that you have had a consistent message here - friends who upset you are not friends. Sometimes, we cling to friendships from the past, after it's run it's course. A longstanding pal and I were talking about a mutual acquaintance and how trying we find him. Her husband asked " If you met him today, would he be your friend?". We stopped in our tracks, looked at each other and said, together "No".
It's a good question to ask yourself about this lady. Good luck with making new friends.

Grammaretto Sat 07-May-22 15:20:25

What surprises me is that you say she is your only and oldest friend, helped you through divorce and so on.
I don't see envy, but a claim on you - developed over many years. She has treated you like a sister.
Your new husband doesn't like her and perhaps you are now seeing her through his eyes?
Maybe she has always been like that? I mean inclined to tease and banter and flirt and it once amused you but no longer?
I would distance myself from her for a while and mix with more people. A choir is an excellent idea.

Years ago I went off an old friend when her new partner and my DH had nothing in common. Meetups were painful. I often think of her and wish her well but we are no longer in contact.

PrettyNancy Sat 07-May-22 14:45:08

MayBee70

I was chatting to one of my oldest friends on the phone the other day and she said something really nasty about my SIL. So I’ve decided not to phone her again. It isn’t the first time it’s happened. She never married or had children so I’ve made a point of phoning her throughout the pandemic. I seem to be losing all of my closest friends either through illness or Alzheimer’s and she is one of the few remaining friends I have that I have a shared history with. But her comment was uncalled for and I didn’t want to create an argument. I don’t understand people who say hurtful things and don’t even think about the pain they are causing. I know I’ve said things I regret afterwards and years later it still bothers me that I said something insensitive at the time. When I was a child I laughed at my mum’s singing and it made her cry and I’d give anything to turn the clock back!

Oh Maybee70 I feel like we are in the same boat! I hate arguments too. I feel exactly the same about saying something insensitive, it would worry me for years. {flowers}

MayBee70 Sat 07-May-22 12:18:03

I was chatting to one of my oldest friends on the phone the other day and she said something really nasty about my SIL. So I’ve decided not to phone her again. It isn’t the first time it’s happened. She never married or had children so I’ve made a point of phoning her throughout the pandemic. I seem to be losing all of my closest friends either through illness or Alzheimer’s and she is one of the few remaining friends I have that I have a shared history with. But her comment was uncalled for and I didn’t want to create an argument. I don’t understand people who say hurtful things and don’t even think about the pain they are causing. I know I’ve said things I regret afterwards and years later it still bothers me that I said something insensitive at the time. When I was a child I laughed at my mum’s singing and it made her cry and I’d give anything to turn the clock back!

Kim19 Sat 07-May-22 12:04:32

There are many singing groups around that exist simply for pleasure and companionship irrespective of voice 'quality'. Have a look in your area. As for offloading your friend, which I think is a very good (but sad) idea, perhaps you could do this gradually but firmly by not being available for any of the future meetings SHE suggests. She will eventually get the message. Very difficult after all these years but, as someone else has said, this friendship seems to have run its course. I wish you the very best.

Grandmafrench Sat 07-May-22 11:39:01

What Oopsa says. Absolutely!

You say you don’t like confrontation and in this case it would probably be both upsetting and a waste of time. Just keep those infrequent visits even more infrequent - you and your DH owe her nothing if she behaves like that.

And keep singing and an eye open for more ‘suitable’ friendships. ?

Oldwoman70 Sat 07-May-22 11:24:46

Don't give up on your singing - you enjoy it and that's all that matters. Just because someone has no financial worries doesn't guarantee happiness. She sees you going out and joining in things and happy with your husband and it sounds like she is jealous. I would back off for a while, make new friends with your singing and I think you will find she is not the "great" friend you think she is.

Shinamae Sat 07-May-22 11:00:56

I would not even consider her a friend and let her go immediately… To knock your confidence like that and then hit on your husband,you can do without a friend like that..

glammanana Sat 07-May-22 10:56:34

I would end the friendship it seems to have run its course,you say she has no need to be jealous as they are pretty well off but that does not mean she is happy in her life does it ?

Have you thought of joining a choir so you can carry on with your love of singing.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-May-22 10:42:50

I also think the friendship has run its course. I wouldn’t give her the benefit of the doubt as to her behaviour. I would ditch her before she cost me not only my confidence but my marriage.

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 07-May-22 10:34:43

Friends should build you up, not knock you down and innuendos to your husband is a definite no no.

I think she is jealous, you are obviously happy and for all her wealth she probably isn’t. Or, she was happy until she saw you with your husband!

I think your friendship has run its course.

henetha Sat 07-May-22 10:29:35

So sad for you, but you don't need a friend like her. I hope you continue to sing and make new friends.

timetogo2016 Sat 07-May-22 10:08:15

She is no friend imo.She could cause problems in the future for you and your husband regardless that he has no interest in her.
As for putting your singing down,that`s damn rude and totally out of order.
Think long and hard about having her in your life.

MawtheMerrier Sat 07-May-22 09:56:11

? Let her go…?

PrettyNancy Sat 07-May-22 09:46:13

THANK YOU ALL....

for your responses, given me much to think about. As regards her comments to my husband, it comes in the form of 'innuendo' I am sure she will say its just a bit of fun, He doesn't find it funny and we are not straight-laced by any means! He kept quiet because he knows she is my only friend, and I understand that.

I had not thought of dementia, she is quite a bit younger than me and pretty sharp at other things, general knowledge, crosswords etc... but will bear it in mind.

Jealousy did briefly cross my mind, I am no oil painting but she has not been blessed with good looks, but they are financially way, way, better off than us, big house, constantly going away on really expensive holidays, cruises etc... whereas we are happy to stay local and we don't like flying anyway! I don't think there is much for her to be jealous of.

Fortunately she lives a fair distance away so visits are naturally infrequent, my husband can't stand her, and I think I continued the friendship as she has been such a good friend in the past (I suppose I feel a bit guilty because of that, disloyal in a way) I hate confrontation but I think I can't let her upset me like this. We both feel so sorry for her husband, such a nice man.

Redhead56 Sat 07-May-22 09:07:10

I agree with another poster about the onset of dementia it is a possibility that could explain your friends behaviour. You have been friends along time now and she knows the boundaries or she should do.
If it was me and I am assuming you do value your friendship I would have to tell her that you found her attitude insulting. I believe in tough love sometimes you have to tell it how it is for the message to get through. I have lifelong friends and I would never hesitate to speak from my heart to them and they equally are as comfortable with me.
I would tell her that you don’t appreciate the criticism and her behaviour is insulting. Regarding your husband he should man up and tell her he is not remotely interested in her as he is a loyal husband.
That should put a stop to what I think is the childish behaviour that she is displaying lately. Time will tell give her a break and you will see if she genuinely is a friend or not.

Nacky Sat 07-May-22 08:58:53

I can understand how your confidence has been dented but please don't stop singing! Apart from the other benefits it could lead to new friends. Well done on having the courage to perform, please see what happened as your friend's problem rather than yours.
I agree with others here in wondering if your friend has signs of dementia or another health issue. Perhaps reduce contact and avoid situations when she is alone with your husband and maybe gently ask her husband if he has noticed any changes in your friend? Also look out for ways to increase your friendship circle?