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Wisconsin2000 Sun 12-Mar-23 20:26:43

Hi, long story short, my DS is in the US army and moved to Germany many years ago. He met a girl and they got married and had kids. I usually see them once a year when I visit or occasionally they visited me. DS got orders back to the USA and DIL couldn’t come as it was covid and her visa got delayed. It has been over a year now that they have been apart and still no visa. My DS has enrolled the oldest kid in school, but I’m worried they won’t be here in time and will lose the spot. I keep offering to go and bring the kids here and I will move in with my DS and look after them. The youngest is almost 2 so I would stay at home with him. My DIL keeps saying no, that she will never leave her kids, which I think is selfish as me and DS don’t get to see them. I even offered for them to come and live with me but she says she doesn’t like the cold weather in WI. I feel like I am missing out on a lot and don’t know what to do. We Skype every week but every time I mention the kids she ends the conversation. I’m also worried that she might change her mind and not come here. What can I do?

GagaJo Sun 12-Mar-23 23:09:24

Much as I disagree with the OP, I have a British friend married to a US serviceman. He's been back in the US for a year and 9 months. She's still in the UK waiting for her spousal visa.

overthehill Sun 12-Mar-23 23:08:21

The poster has certainly had a roasting.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 12-Mar-23 22:54:46

I can’t believe there is a genuine problem with the visa. The dil doesn’t want to go to the US does she? She wants to stay in her own country.

VioletSky Sun 12-Mar-23 22:53:10

Lol!

Still valid

Hithere Sun 12-Mar-23 22:51:24

Lol about the lids

Hithere Sun 12-Mar-23 22:50:26

The board has been dead lately, some traffic was needed

BlueBelle Sun 12-Mar-23 22:39:27

I was a service wife they looked after us wives very well I don’t believe this
And if I was your daughter in law I would definitely think not twice but three times before I let you near the children Who the heck do you think you are He also works 12 hour days so I would need to move in to look after them they are fine with their mum they don’t need you to look after them

I wouldn't send my lids for a holiday violetsky I hope you wouldn’t the jars would cry without their lids

rafichagran Sun 12-Mar-23 22:06:14

Sorry, meant to quote mitzigem

rafichagran Sun 12-Mar-23 22:02:42

biglouis

I can understand your DIL not wanting to live in Wisconsin as its bloody cold there!

Nether can I really, no one can be that needy and lacking self awareness.

Mitzigem Sun 12-Mar-23 22:00:23

Wow, surely this post is just for a reaction . Can’t believe it.

seadragon Sun 12-Mar-23 21:58:50

I worked for the Royal Navy Social Work department for 10 years based at Faslane. One of my nephews served in the RN and was seconded to the US Navy. I find it hard to believe that the US Navy is not facilitating the move for your son's wife and children as what you are describing is clearly a welfare matter and certainly something that the RN department I worked in would assist with. However there is a fear amongst some serving personnel that approaching the Social Work/Welfare Service may negatively affect their career. This was NEVER the case in my experience and family separation is likely to cause significant distress all round. I know the Australian Navy has a comprehensive welfare service too.

biglouis Sun 12-Mar-23 21:52:56

I can understand your DIL not wanting to live in Wisconsin as its bloody cold there!

rafichagran Sun 12-Mar-23 21:52:31

I find this hard to believe, even after posters told you how needy you are, you still cannot see you are wrong.
You need to stop this and mind your own business. It's about the Mother, Father and children here, not you. I would not be surprised if she does not come over and it will be because of you. Back off now.

biglouis Sun 12-Mar-23 21:51:17

Whenever I read a thread about clingy grandparents Im glad tht I was never selfish enough to have children of my own. For many years my own grandmother had to take back seat in seeing me because my father resented her. And that was only visiting someone who lived a mile or two away.

The entitlement of some family members is beyond reason. Be careful or you will end up estranged from your grandchildren until they are mature enough to decide whether they want to see you.

crazyH Sun 12-Mar-23 21:50:47

I don’t believe what I’ve just read ! A very needy Mother/ Grandmother -Wisconsin I doubt you’ll get much sympathy here. Good luck !

Glorianny Sun 12-Mar-23 21:49:10

She is their mother , you are not. The children belong with her. Why not spend your time and energy working to facilitate her coming over? Mind if I was her I might be having second thoughts about moving anywhere nearer you.

VioletSky Sun 12-Mar-23 21:41:45

I wouldn't send my lids for a holiday, I'd be scared I wouldn't see them again

imaround Sun 12-Mar-23 21:35:35

I would never allow my kids to move to a different country without me, no matter who was pressuring me to do so.

pascal30 Sun 12-Mar-23 21:33:37

I don't believe this... nobody could think like this

Hithere Sun 12-Mar-23 21:30:46

If I were your dip, I for sure wouldn't move to the US

GagaJo Sun 12-Mar-23 21:25:50

Wisconsin2000

My son is lonely and can't see his wife, so having the kids could be good for him. He also works 12 hour days so I would need to move in to look after them. Sadly, the military doesn't provide much help for foreign spouses and they have to apply for visas like every one else.

He can't care for them. She can. She is their mother.

This isn't a DiL problem. It's a MiL problem.

If you don't back right off, apology needed to your DiL too, you're risking ever having a relationship with your grandchildren.

NotSpaghetti Sun 12-Mar-23 21:24:20

Never in a million years would I have sent my two small children to live in another country without me.

Nor me!

Skye17 Sun 12-Mar-23 21:17:24

Never in a million years would I have sent my two small children to live in another country without me. That would be cruel and very bad for them.

I would stop bringing this up if I were you.

NotSpaghetti Sun 12-Mar-23 21:10:28

Please be careful- you say
every time I mention the kids she ends the conversation.
This is obviously pushing her away.

If I was your daughter-in-law I would be nervous about bringing my children over in case I was put in an awkward position by your neediness.
I know you want to be more involved but I think it's important to put the children first.

Can your son request a transfer back to Germany if the visa can't be resolved?
That's what I would suggest - as you say, he is missing out on his children- and of course they are missing out too.

Hithere Sun 12-Mar-23 21:09:07

You mean having the kids in the US would be good for you, right?