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Sister Wives - could you?

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Doodledog Fri 03-Nov-23 17:13:33

I've just discovered 'Sister Wives' on Discovery+, and am hooked grin.

It's about a polygamous family of Mormons in Utah, and I definitely had preconceptions before I watched it. I'm not sure what I expected, but the reality is that the women are 'normal', whatever that means. They share a building (a massive house), but each woman and her children live in her own separate part of it, with the husband the only one without his own space - he 'shares himself' between the wives. I'm only on series one (there are lots of them!) and so far there are four wives.

They are not jealous of one another, and when a new wife comes along they all have a say in who she is and can veto her. Wives have suggested other women as potential sister wives.

All the women (up to now in the series) have been brought up in the Mormon faith, and I think they were all in polygamous families. They don't seem overtly religious, in the sense of having family prayer meetings and the things that some 'fringe' American religious families do. Each woman brings up her own children, but the other wives are on hand to babysit and step in when necessary. The husband probably has the last word, but not obviously so - there are a lot of meetings where things are discussed and the wives all have a say in big collective decisions.

At least some of the women work - the programme hasn't yet gone into the financial side of things. I don't know if the family money is pooled, or whether they each keep what they earn - I don't know what the husband does for a living to afford the massive house and something like 19 children between the wives. They wear normal clothes, unlike the Latter Day Saints lot or the Amish, and you wouldn't spot them if they were next to you in Sainsbury's. Their lifestyle is illegal, so there is a threat of the husband being imprisoned and they have to deny the polygamy to the 'outside world'.

There is strictly no sex outside of marriage for the wives, yet they seem very accepting of their husband's relationship with the other wives (he doesn't stray outside of the family), which I suppose is the first thing that springs to mind as it is so different from what most of us are probably used to.

The women do seem like sisters, and on the face of it seem happy enough. They acknowledge that life is not always wonderful, but is it ever. They have one another on hand, and both share a lot yet have their own possessions and homes.

Could you do it? I don't know - it's very alien, and I'm pretty much certain that I would have hated it when I was younger. Now, the idea of effectively living in a commune, with people of different generations yet having my own space doesn't seem so bad. This lot are probably in their 30s - of childbearing age, anyway. They never seem to make these programmes about older families.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 04-Nov-23 11:41:37

I haven't seen the programme but have heard of polygamy being practiced in the odd corner of LDS church ( absolutely not in the mainstream).
Like Dickens I am amused by the idea the defence of the practice being that love doesn't have to be exclusive- but that this only applies to men. Women, of course must be faithful to one man. Patriarchy at its worst.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 10:31:28

Hmm. He is moving them all to another state (because of his decision to go public with the polygamy) and not everyone is keen on the idea. The ideology is coming through now. It is Kody's right to lead the rest of the family, and - even more telling - when the children were gifted to him by God he got the right for them to live in his home until they marry.

His constant grinning is getting on my nerves now, particularly as so many of the others are really upset by the thought of moving. They aren't just leaving their home, but their careers, their friends and everything they know.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 08:58:08

I started with a very open mind, but I'm now on series 2, and I'm struggling a bit to keep it open.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 08:56:52

Also, on a more prosaic level, I've just realised the problem with medical assistance in the US. The first wife is being investigated for cancer, and there would be a huge issue with keeping up medical insurance for all those people (there are 20 children, I think). And they have to pretend not to be married to the same man, too. That has to be tricky where records are concerned. Do they all use Kody's surname?

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 08:40:41

Yes, that was the phrase I was looking for - my delicacy is not at its best at this time in the morning grin.

BlueBelle Sat 04-Nov-23 08:39:28

Just horrible its male domination ….again

Witzend Sat 04-Nov-23 08:37:43

One word - ugh.

Galaxy Sat 04-Nov-23 08:36:12

If we are being indelicate it would be more the thought of what he had done on Monday that would put me off. grin

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 08:32:17

Whethertomorrow

I found it an absolutely fascinating view at an alternative lifestyle. The psychological experience of the disparate women and the sole male is intriguing. The husband is worth particularly watching, keep a close eye on him.

I’ve noticed that he smiles all the time, even when he’s speaking, which is strange and probably scripted. It must be quite difficult to keep that up.

Also, at the risk of being indelicate, he currently has four wives and rotates his sleeping arrangements between them. As they are young women who presumably have a healthy interest in sex, does he have to do it every night? If not, there will be a gap between opportunities for each of them. And as they are unlikely to use contraception, the ones hoping to conceive will have their chances reduced too. Also, the thought of ‘oh, it’s Tuesday so I will have to do my wifely duty tonight’ would be offputting for the women, wouldn’t it?

Dickens Sat 04-Nov-23 02:55:11

It's a cult - closed to some extent to the outside world, where men hold the real power and thus have the ability to abuse.

Can a woman have more than one husband? No. Just another form of Patriarchy.

Not for me.

Whethertomorrow Sat 04-Nov-23 02:37:38

I found it an absolutely fascinating view at an alternative lifestyle. The psychological experience of the disparate women and the sole male is intriguing. The husband is worth particularly watching, keep a close eye on him.

Doodledog Fri 03-Nov-23 23:48:03

Thanks. I’ll start to watch for cracks in the edifice grin.

I must admit, after watching quite a few episodes now, that it is so wholesome that it doesn’t seem true.

Whethertomorrow Fri 03-Nov-23 23:25:38

I’ve watched this from the beginning and we are now on season 18 episode 11. I won’t spoil the ending for you but everything you are watching is a lie, a false and filmed for tv reality show, where nothing is as it is purported to be. Enjoy the ride.

Doodledog Fri 03-Nov-23 23:07:15

I’m not advocating it as a way of life😀. I’m watching Sister Wives on Discovery + - there are other series (Big Love is one of them) that have covered this and may be different.

In theory I agree with those saying it is sexist - even misogynistic- but so far in this series they all seem happy and if they are, I don’t see why it should be illegal. There are lots of things that other people do that I wouldn’t, but I wouldn’t make them illegal.

I repeat - I am not arguing for or against anything at this stage though grin

BlueBelle Fri 03-Nov-23 22:50:00

I think I ve seen this a while back and there wasn’t the harmony that you are seeing Doodlebug

nanna8 Fri 03-Nov-23 22:41:14

I remember watching that series. I thought there were a lot of underlying tensions in the families , the females, and some were very,very young ,didn’t get a lot of say in things. I suppose they want to multiply because there aren’t many of them as in the Old Testament many years before them. Anything that is closed to the outside world, as they are, makes me feel very uneasy.

Mollygo Fri 03-Nov-23 22:23:11

I have watched it, and it made me increasingly uncomfortable.
I think I’m with M0nica on this, but the men would never put up with it.

Summerlove Fri 03-Nov-23 22:20:29

Hithere

Get ready for a bumpy tode@

Exactly what I was thinking!

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Nov-23 22:16:54

M0nica

Unless the Moromons, or any other group are equally happy and accepting of households where one woman has several husbands, all happy in there own quarters and prepared to stay celibate unless she favours them with her body, I will see this as another form of institutianal anti-feminism.

Yes, I agree, that lifestyle means there is no equality.

Abitbarmy Fri 03-Nov-23 22:16:23

I’m absolutely with Galaxy and Monica.

Doodledog Fri 03-Nov-23 22:06:50

LucyAnna

Doodledog

Galaxy

Er no its misogyny on speed.

I admit that I thought that at first (and I have heard some awful things about some of the communities) but as I say, this doesn't feel abusive at all.

It could be a giant PR exercise of course, and it would be good to hear some voices of insiders who disapprove, but I am surprised at how seemingly liberal it is (apart from the sexual side, which does seem problematic to me).

Be careful of further similar comments before watching more of the series - it does turn out to be pretty abusive in all sorts of ways.

Ah. Well, I am commenting as I watch, and as I say, I am prepared to change my mind. I've seen similar 'documentaries' about other fringe religious groups and yes, they have been abusive, but so far this family seem happy enough.

I am fully aware that it is TV, so there is likely to be a storyline, and there are enough clues on this thread to suggest that it won't end happily ever after grin.

LucyAnna Fri 03-Nov-23 22:00:02

Doodledog

Galaxy

Er no its misogyny on speed.

I admit that I thought that at first (and I have heard some awful things about some of the communities) but as I say, this doesn't feel abusive at all.

It could be a giant PR exercise of course, and it would be good to hear some voices of insiders who disapprove, but I am surprised at how seemingly liberal it is (apart from the sexual side, which does seem problematic to me).

Be careful of further similar comments before watching more of the series - it does turn out to be pretty abusive in all sorts of ways.

M0nica Fri 03-Nov-23 21:44:40

Unless the Moromons, or any other group are equally happy and accepting of households where one woman has several husbands, all happy in there own quarters and prepared to stay celibate unless she favours them with her body, I will see this as another form of institutianal anti-feminism.

Doodledog Fri 03-Nov-23 21:39:50

Galaxy

Er no its misogyny on speed.

I admit that I thought that at first (and I have heard some awful things about some of the communities) but as I say, this doesn't feel abusive at all.

It could be a giant PR exercise of course, and it would be good to hear some voices of insiders who disapprove, but I am surprised at how seemingly liberal it is (apart from the sexual side, which does seem problematic to me).

Iam64 Fri 03-Nov-23 21:38:26

Syracute -your post mirrors my experience of involvement with Mormon families in the UK. Under age sexual exploitation, wives being pressured by elders to continue in a very abusive marriage etc