No Smiles. She is a nicer person these days. I think she was trying to impress her friends.
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I hope I can get some good advice before this gets blown up out of proportion.
I'm 70+ and I work PT for my daughter - in a job that I don't find easy to do at all. Its sales and I am nota Sales type of person - I only ended up working for her because of staffing problems and as an administrator I thought I was helping out.
I was in the office today -GENUINELY looking for a file that I needed, and came across handwritten sheet on A4, full of unkind things she had said about me. She did sound angry anyway - although it was written thoughts ! What she said was
basically Job wise I was an incompetent old woman - dragging her down. I needed to be good at my job
On a personal level - I was a miserable old cow - who had had her life and she hadn't. She was going to "spend her money as she liked and travel wherever she wanted without looking for my approval ". ( As her mum I had expressed my own concern for her madcap travel plans in terms of her safety as a single woman in remote places - and when her business has been struggling financially - I did question some of her business spending ? as my original role in the business was to run her accounts )
I help out at her house sometimes because she is busy - so I do a few little jobs when I can ( only washing up / changing cat litter trays and hoovering up if I think it looks really messy) I do not go un invited - sometimes she askes me to WFH at her house - or I do these little jobs whilst waiting for her on line shop to arrive etc.
If I withdraw without saying anything at all - she will pick this up as giving her the cold shoulder and I will have to give a reason. ( and I am human - so I'll be thinking of what's in the note for quite a while I think )
Should I confront her with this note and ask for an explanation ?? Bit confused about my role in all this - it seems alot of people in my family take me for granted - but this has come as a shock to actually read hat someone really thinks.
What do you think ?
No Smiles. She is a nicer person these days. I think she was trying to impress her friends.
Justjoined
I once found a list of complaints about me left in the photocopier by a colleague! It was a real shock as you can imagine. How I felt changed over a few days as I simmered down. It’s all different with family of course as you want to preserve the relationship above all.
I would say absolutely nothing about what you have seen, give in my notice and let the working relationship end on good terms. Things between you will likely reset in a good way when you aren’t so involved in so many aspects of your daughter’s life.
That's actually a deliberate Civil Service tactic - ie leaving a written list of complaints about someone in a photocopier and is done "accidentally on purpose" (ie hoping the person concerned takes umbrage and resigns - as it costs a noticeable amount of money to payoff someone that leaves in other ways).
You are working for your daughter, receiving part-time wages and working full-time. And she abuses you.
How is she able to afford a holiday 'travelling' when she owes you wages? And you get to look after her cats, which saves her a considerable amount of money at the kennels.
Who will run the business when she is away?
No wonder you worry all the time about money.
You need to stop working for her as soon as possible, but not before you receive the money owed in wages, all of it,
This sounds like a business about to go under. Get clear quickly.
Did you ever help her out again Kate?
Some years ago, our DD was trying to start her own business supplying buffets for children's parties. When she got her first booking she asked me to help her to prepare the food. It was horrendous.
I arrived at her house at 8am and we started work. I left at 5pm during which time she offered me no food or drink, although she had a couple of cans of coke herself. So I put the kettle on and she snapped at me saying I was getting water all over the food (I wasn't). She told me I was hopeless at making sandwiches. By the time I left I was in shock.
She appeared the next day with flowers, saying 'D (her husband) says I owe you an apology!'
I wouldn't say we are all too nice.
I would say it is because we are aware of the treatment meted out to some parents by their offspring when they express differing views, and not knowing the family situation we advise caution.
Visgir1
You are all so nice.
I would be the opposite, I would have had her about it straight away, leave and told her she's on her own now.
I couldn't sit on something so cruel as that, from my Daughter.
I completely agree
Personally, I would give her note, say you understand she might have been “offloading”. Explain it was difficult to read and quite hurtful.
Remain very calm and state that it was upsetting to read, you are happy to leave the job whenever suits her and that next time she has an issue with you to do the adult thing and speak directly to you.
Then I’d ask her to rip it up and put it behind you both.
That's good to know RosieandherMaw.
Nannimo You said in a previous thread you were going to retire at Christmas, perhaps it is time to go.
You also said you were living at home without hot water as your husband had cut the central heating pipes.
You also said you were unhappy with your husband but he would make a separation difficult.
I think it’s time you stopped working and reevaluate your life.
It's sometimes good to.plsy the "old card". Tell your D you need to concentrate on yourself now and will retire shortly and you won't be available to help her out.
If she asks why don't mention seeing her rant and just say you will be doing other things now.
How very hurtful Nannimo.
I wouldn’t advise burning bridges with family. Just say that you’ve been thinking about life and have decided to think about yourself and your wellbeing for the time being. Give her a couple of weeks notice.
Go and join a few things that interest you, make a life that you enjoy.
If she asks you for help and you have the time, give it willingly but no more than is asked.
I really wouldn’t mention the note. Always easier to go back through open doors.
Enjoy your freedom.
Smileless2012
You appear to think RosieandherMaw, that a mother who doesn't always keep it zipped and keep her even well meaning opinions to herself, is the only one who may be estranged.
You couldn't be more wrong and being a member of GN I'd have thought you would know that. It certainly wasn't the reason for our estrangement.
No comment 🤐🤐🤐
Incredibly hurtful
Personally I would just leave the note where she knows you ve seen it but not actually open up a conversation about it
Then yes I d definitely NOT make an excuse up of being too old or too busy etc I d just simply hand my notice in
Then I d carry on as normal and let her stew
When she next ‘needs’ you to clean the house or wait in for parcels I d be a little less available
Who’s going to be cat sitting when she’s off to far flung places ?
You are all so nice.
I would be the opposite, I would have had her about it straight away, leave and told her she's on her own now.
I couldn't sit on something so cruel as that, from my Daughter.
Mixing family and business hardly ever works well. At best, there's internal bad feeling and, at worst, professionalism & efficiency go out through the window (because it's hard to separate out the business side from the personal. I'd leave, if I were you. She clearly isn't happy with having you there (for whatever reasons) and, from what you say in your post, you presumably don't want to be there anyway. Perhaps I'm being simplistic but it seems like a no-brainer to me.
sorry 72 year old not 7.
Indeed Nannimo it isn't necessary to always voice ones opinions. As Norah has said you are NOT a useless 7 year old and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.
Your post made me
'keeping your powder dry' was one of my gran's favourite sayings.
I do think it's sad though that some of us put up with bad treatment for fear of falling out. We are people too. Yes it is sad Kate.
Nannimo
Thanks J52 and eazybee
To sum up - I am not going to say anything about the note to anyone at all -I'll keep my powder dry.
and although I do need the money - I will look at other paying jobs - which wont be as convenient - and being a 'useless 72 yr old' - there might not even be one.
Or I could just be selfish and actually retire !!!
You are NOT a useless 72 yr old. I don't believe that nor should you.
Good on you for 'keeping powder dry'.
I once found a list of complaints about me left in the photocopier by a colleague! It was a real shock as you can imagine. How I felt changed over a few days as I simmered down. It’s all different with family of course as you want to preserve the relationship above all.
I would say absolutely nothing about what you have seen, give in my notice and let the working relationship end on good terms. Things between you will likely reset in a good way when you aren’t so involved in so many aspects of your daughter’s life.
Perhaps give notice, time to retire. Stop doing her hoovering and waiting on her online shop. Give no opinions and advice, she's living as she wishes.
I agree that it's a good idea to keep it zipped. I learned the hard way after not doing so after what I considered pretty appalling treatment by my DD. Fortunately it was a harsh lesson learned
I do think it's sad though that some of us put up with bad treatment for fear of falling out. We are people too.
I think u need to take a step back and concentrate on yourself . Sometimes us mums can do too much and it’s not always as appreciated as it should be . Xx
Thanks J52 and eazybee
To sum up - I am not going to say anything about the note to anyone at all -I'll keep my powder dry.
and although I do need the money - I will look at other paying jobs - which wont be as convenient - and being a 'useless 72 yr old' - there might not even be one.
Or I could just be selfish and actually retire !!!
Would you carry on working for her if she were not your daughter, and you saw those things she has written?
Sharper than a serpent's tooth.
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