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Retired65 Wed 02-Apr-25 21:22:54

I contacted an old friend by phone recently. I haven't seen him for many years. He is 82. I wanted to find out how he was. The phone was answered by a woman. I was so shocked, I asked if I had got the right number, she asked who I wanted to speak to and asked my name I told her and she called out to the person concerned. The answer was that he couldn't speak to me and she put the phone down. As far as I was aware, the person I wanted to speak to lived on their own. Of course I am curious to know who this woman is but have no way of finding out as I live too far away to investigate. The electoral roll only shows who lives there between the years 2008 to 2011.

Lathyrus3 Wed 02-Apr-25 21:35:52

Probably a cleaner or carer of some kind.

When did you last phone? Life can change quickly when you’re in your eighties. He maybe needs some extra support for a condition you don’t know about.

Try phoning again at a different time. Early evening maybe.

Elowen33 Wed 02-Apr-25 21:52:58

When was the last time you had contact with him? It could have been a carer, relative, friend or new partner.

Retired65 Wed 02-Apr-25 21:53:42

I phoned at 7pm. I will try and ring another day and time. As you say it could have been a carer.

Redblueandgreen Wed 02-Apr-25 22:12:44

You could write to him and put your address on the back, if he’s moved the new people may send it back to you

Mt61 Wed 02-Apr-25 22:39:29

My friends mum is late 70 dementia, had a fella doing odd jobs, now he’s moved in, he’s in his late 40s I believe. Our friend is going nuts, he & his brother pop round & he puts them off visiting. I have told them to get Social services involved. I am seeing him next week to get the next chapter of what’s happening.
You hear of people moving in on older, vulnerable people, next thing they are getting married & there’s not a lot the family can do apparently. The law might have changed on that for people who have dementia. I think registrars should be made aware if something looks off.

V3ra Thu 03-Apr-25 09:26:58

Mt61 do your friend and his brother have both Powers of Attorney in place for their mother? If not that's the first thing they need to do, if their mother is still able to agree.

And yes they should let the adult care social work team know of their concerns, as their mother is at risk of financial abuse.

MayBee70 Thu 03-Apr-25 09:38:00

My uncle had a younger woman who befriended him. She got him to change his will and leave everything to him. She’d even itemised everything in the house ( he didn’t have much) and complained about me taking a clock that had been presented to him when he retired. Towards the end she wasn’t even seeing him but was supposedly pushing sandwiches through his letterbox.

fancythat Thu 03-Apr-25 09:52:34

Our family hadnt had contact with a member for about 5 years.
We were concerned about him.
I travelled hundreds of miles to make sure he was ok. He was. But his circumstances were in the process of changing, so glad I went.

If I hadnt done that, I would have employed someone in his area, to visit his house.
Our family wanted to make sure he was ok, and wanted peace of mind for ourselves.

I think the electoral roll can now be private?

Lathyrus3 Thu 03-Apr-25 10:08:00

I think the OP should try to contact the friend a few more times before starting to take action that could be seen as interfering.

I’m quite elderly myself but I’d be very cross if someone I hadn’t seen for years (like the OP says) took action in my life without consulting me first.

She could try ringing a different times of the day for a chat, perhaps more frequently than previously so that she’s up to date with what’s happening in his life. Rather than immediately going to the electoral role or employing someone to investigate.

A lady answering the phone and him saying he couldn’t speak now sounds very much like a carer and cared for carrying out the last routines of the day to me.

fancythat Thu 03-Apr-25 10:50:55

^I think the OP should try to contact the friend a few more times before starting to take action that could be seen as interfering.
^

I would agree with that.

Retired65 Thu 03-Apr-25 11:08:40

Thank you for all your advice.
Yes, you can now elect to be on the closed register for the electoral roll.
I will try telephoning at another time and hopefully get to speak to him.

pascal30 Mon 07-Apr-25 18:23:57

Perhaps he was just surprised if you hadn't contacted him for years.. I would send him a card with your contact details and then he can decide if he wishes to speak to you..

Retired65 Mon 07-Apr-25 19:22:55

I have decided to leave it for now.

welbeck Mon 07-Apr-25 22:11:21

Mt61
How do you mean that man puts off your friend from visiting his mum? If he has popped around?
Can't he just push his way in?
I would.
Also do contact social services.
Emphasise she is vulnerable.

BlueBelle Mon 07-Apr-25 22:16:18

We ve got two stories going on here !!!

petra Mon 07-Apr-25 22:35:42

Retired65
When/if you want to accelerate this issue phone your friends council and ask to speak to the Adult safeguarding co-ordinator
It’s also acceptable to speak to the police.

Macadia Mon 07-Apr-25 23:13:42

Are there any family.members of his or mutual friends you have that you could ask about his well being?

Yes, sending a cheerful card to say you're thinking of him would be nice, in any circumstance.

Aldom Tue 08-Apr-25 04:58:33

Not having one's name published on the Electoral Roll isn't a recent innovation. Many years ago I chose not to have personal details shown on the Electoral Roll.

BlueBelle Tue 08-Apr-25 06:06:47

Don’t you think this is a bit OTT poster hasnt contacted the ‘friend’ for a ‘number of years’ and when a stranger (to her)
answers, people have him down as an or old abused man

She knows nothing about him for years during that time he could have married, he could have a companion , he could have a carer , it could have been a neighbour, a relative, and he obviously didn’t want to speak to her or renew the friendship

There must be a reason Retired hasn’t spoken to this person for years lets face it this isn’t a friendship if you haven’t checked on a ‘friend’ for such a long time

Redblueandgreen Tue 08-Apr-25 08:44:06

That had crossed my mind too BlueBelle. If you haven’t bothered with someone for a number of years, if you suddenly pop up that person may not want to bother with you.

Retired65 Tue 08-Apr-25 11:21:05

I have tried to contact him in the past! I am sure he is not in any kind of danger. He isn't married and doesn't have a partner or children. The reason for contacting him was to see how he was. This was because his sister died a couple of months ago, it was in the newspaper. He was very close to her. He went on holiday etc with her.

fancythat Tue 08-Apr-25 12:48:06

I personally wouldnt just leave it.

I presume you dont know anyone who lives closer to him?

Retired65 Tue 08-Apr-25 13:10:21

Unfortunately not. The other person, who he used to be in touch with, died awhile back. I honestly don't think he wants to speak to me, which I find hurtful, when I spent nearly 17 years with him, although we never lived together.